Plumeria stenopetala

Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)March 28, 2014

So I've been resisting ordering a plant for days now and it's been killing me! Laugh.
Almost bought another sambac jasmine but I figured I should expand my nose pleasures so I broke down and ordered a grafted Plumeria stenopetala from Florida Colors.
They've really improved their site and they now include the S&H when ordering so there's no guesswork anymore (used to be you'd have to wait for them to ship it to find out what your total would be).
I know many people like Chubite have urged me to get this plumeria for its scent which I believe has been described as gardenia like and since many of my Plumeria rubras have croaked I figured why not? :)

I'll let everyone know my thoughts if and when it blooms for me.

-Robert

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fragrant2008

Man of good taste Robert :) I already have this plumeria Its been growing really well for me but this is just my second year of owning it. I bought it last spring i am hoping it flowers this summer fingers crossed :)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Ha ha! We're all enablers here, aren't we? ;)
I wish yours would hurry up and bloom so you can give us a scent report! :)
I'm wondering what type of support to use since I know it's vining in nature.
I'm sure I'll find some trellis or what not to support the branches.
Really hoping I'll enjoy this one's scent!

-Robert

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

I am still trying to figure out which Jasmine to get AGAIN. I'm leaning toward Belle of India but I afraid I will kill her yet again!

I do have good luck with Plumerias in general so maybe I will give this one a try as well! Bad Robert! Go to your room! You made Lynn want another plant! LOL

This post was edited by No-Clue on Sat, Mar 29, 14 at 16:40

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Ha ha! I know I'm not the first to entice ya with this one! ;)
I remember the link below from SimiDude from last year urging you to get one. :)

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: SimiDude's post

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Ha ha! I know I'm not the first to entice ya with this one! ;)
I remember the link below from SimiDude from last year urging you to get one. :)

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: SimiDude's post

    Bookmark   March 28, 2014 at 10:54PM
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kandhi(z7VA)

Robert, this is not nice to bring plumeria's into this forum :) there is a separate forum for that. I have been checking on this on 'plumeria' forum for a while but the fact of being a vine is discouraging. My sunroom has nothing but plants and I cannot think of getting another plumeria(vine form) to maintain indoors no matter how fragrant the bloom is...

I have made up my mind to not get this one and I am going wait for your updates on this since you bought it.

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Laugh. I know, Kandhi. Should've kept this to the plumeria forum however since so many plumeria growers have mentioned this being the most fragrant plumeria I had to share it with my fragrant friends. ;)
I too am worried about what I'm going to do come winter with yet another vining plant especially since it's an evergreen but it's too late now!
I'll let everyone know if I think the scent is worth the trouble or not. :)

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Hi Robert !!

I have this one too!! ;-)

It hasn't bloomed for me yet, but i am looking forward to the day. This will be my second season to have this one. It is very skinny and I was really surprised how vine like it was too! (Hi Khandi)

You guys are to funny.. Had to confess, Robert !!! I can't wait to see yours bloom!!!

Have a great day everyone!,,

Laura

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Aha! So Simidude started it and now Laura has one too! What is a girl to do? I guess she will have to get both! Jasmine and plumeria. Lol

Do share when yours bloom Robert!

Hi Laura! Are you still dirty?

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kandhi(z7VA)

Hi Laura, I knew you would have this, keep us posted when it blooms. I am still waiting on for blooms on 'psycho' cutting you gave. Good to hear from you..

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Keep us posted Robert. This is one of the rare times that I'm happy that my garden is more on the shady side, there is no place for temptation ;-)

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Duplicate message!

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Ha ha! It's nice to see more and more of my friends also broke down and got this one!

Hi Laura!
I wish yours and Brian's would hurry and bloom so you guys can give us a scent report.
Who knows how long it will take mine to bloom especially since I haven't even received it yet. :)

Lynn,

Have you broken down and gotten one plus another Belle of India yet? ;)

True Blue,

Will do! :)

-Robert

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Got my plumie today! It's about 13" tall. Doubt I'll see any blooms for a while. ;)

-Robert

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Congrats, keep us posted :-)

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fragrant2008

Congrats Robert hope it does well for you :) here is my little guy

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Haha! Your little guy looks pretty big to me, Brian! Surely it will bloom for you this year?
I like the wire cage around it. Still haven't figured out how I'm going to support the branches! :)

-Robert

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fragrant2008

haha :) fingers crossed Robert it does, if it does it will be my first ever Plumeria bloom :)
I know it has already started to grow out of tha wire cage not sure how best to support it either

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Hi guys!!!!

My tree is so thin and vine like, but it is leafing out after the dormant period. That's makes me happy. Im Not sure mine will bloom this year, but Im keeping my fingers crossed!!!

Lynn... I was clean. Lol, but I repotted my huge Adenium and it was a handful to hold!!! My Buddah belly tree. Lol. So I guess I'm just a little dirty!!! ;-)

Hi Kandhi. My tree was a gift from a friend who has a bigger tree. So he gave me his little one!! It's really a cute one, but I'm just not used to the stem being so thin . ( pencil like..). I can't wait to smell the fragrance.

Hi Robert !! Loved the picture of the Gardenia!! OMG. It's beautiful. It really is the best fragrance of any Gardenia I have ever smelled. That tree came from my mothers tree where I grew up. It is very sentimental to me and I,m pleased to share with you and my OKie friends... Xo

Take care everyone!!,

Oh, here is a pic of the Adenium I repotted today... Hope you like it Robert. Since its your thread, I hope you didn't mine. I just love the Caudex!!

Have a great night, everyone!!!

Laura

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

I love the gardenia, Laura! Thank you so much for sharing it.

Your Adenium is very cool.
It reminds me of the Venus of Willendorf. :)

-Robert

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cwcervantes(9A / New Orleans)

Hello everyone. I have one of these grafted Plumeria stenopetalas and it is growing an inflorescence. I'll add photos once it's more developed and let everyone know about the scent (which is why I got this plant as well)!

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Robert...

You are to funny.. I have another that looks like " David in Florence". ;-). If i post it, I'm afraid I will get kicked off... LMAO!!!

Cwvervanyes!!! Whooooo hoooooo!

That is exciting news... We will all be waiting to hear what you think...

I'm so excited for you!!! Congratulations!!!!

Take care,

Laura

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

cwcervantes,

Congrats! Can't wait to hear a scent report on this one! :)

Laura,

Desert Roses can be quite anthropomorphic. ;)

-Robert

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

I was reading about this in the Plumeria forum too, SimiDude just had to post how great it smells. I think Im going to succumb and just order one next pay day haha.

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Do it, Musaboru!
You shouldn't have any problems growing it where you live. :)

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Musaboru...

You will love the fragrance!!!!

Fragrant... Loved yours too! It's nice and healthy !! I hope it blooms for you!

Robert .. I'm smelling Gardenias right now and I thinking of you!!!!

Lol.. As far as the adeniums Lol. You wouldn't believe some of mine . Maybe when it blooms ill just post. Everyone can just see this for themselves. What do you think? ;-)

Have a great weekend!

Happy Mothers Day!!!

Laura

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Ok I am going to do it guys. Good thing I am moving back to my dads house and will have more space again. Good to also tend to the plants I left behind every morning before work, it gets so much stress off me with so many things happening in my life.

Happy Mother's Day Laura!

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Love those old fashioned gardenia! They are huge. : )

Musa.. I still need to send off that dwarf plumeria I promised you last year. Can you pm your new address? I'll try to get it out either this weekend or next week.

I really want to try the stenopetala but I need to think of my sun-deprived growing area. I want to but I can't grow every plants.Lol. Maybe somedays...

: ))

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fragrant2008

I think we all know that feeling kemistry :( and beautiful Gardenia Laura one of my all time favourite flowers :)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks for thinking of me and thank you for the lovely gardenia photo, Laura!

Mus,

Hooray! Yours will probably bloom before mine. :)

Kem,

Come on...join the P. stenopetala club already! Laugh.

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Thank you Musaboru!,

I certainly appreciate your thoughtfulness... I had a wonderful day with my daughter, mom and my grandson... Priceless..

YES!! Did I read you are going to try? Whoooo. Hooo!! Love this!!! ( stenopetela) You will love this one when it blooms.... Yes!!! Enablers in action here.. LOVE IT!!! lol...

Glad you liked the gardenia Robert. I i do think of you especially when I smell something special... I still do the walk at night and will always do a " smell check " for you anytime!! ;-)

Fragrant!! I just wanted you to know that my " chicken Feet " are doing well.. No blooms yet, but I think they are ready to split and repot. They are doing great and are very healthy!! Thank you so much!!! ;-). I'll report on them again soon.

If you are ever interested in a " old fashioned". Just let me know. I'll root one for you!!! ;-)

Take care,

Laura

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andrew78(6)

Hi Robert. I found your post when I did a search on GW for P. Stenopetala. I thought I would share my experience with it.

3 summers ago(I cannot believe it has been that long all ready!), I went to Florida Colors for the 1st time. I went with my partner and his cousin. I was so excited when she pulled into the parking lot, that I literally jumped out BEFORE, the car was in park! The car was actually still moving..LOL! Both of them were laughing at me! Thank God Luke and Carol were not right there, or they too probably would have been also laughing!

I called a head of time, because we couldn't find the nursery, and Carol told me then that she would love to give me a guided tour. I was so thankful and super excited!

Carol met me on her golf cart, and she drove me all around the grounds. I was really luck in terms of timing. It was th 1st week of July, and almost all of the parent trees were LOADED with blooms! All I can say Robert is that it was like a sensory OVERLOAD!! I had never seen anything like Florida Colors! It was my first time ever going to a plumeria nursery. Carol was super generous, letting me pick whatever blooms I wanted!

I saw and smelled tons of blooms but I still remember smelling stenopetala for the very first time. We had not even got to stenopetala yet, and I was all ready smelling it! I wouldn't say that it had a gardenia fragrance per say. It was super sweet...maybe a cross between gardenia and jasmine? We were a ways away from it, and once we were right in front of it, I was drooling! Not only because of it's fragrance, but also because of it's unique shape. It is more vine like and in fact, they have supports helping to hold it up.

The inflos themselves looked different. The buds were thinner, but the tree was loaded with inflos and buds. The flowers themselves reminded me more of jasmine, but they were much larger.

All I can say is that I was hooked! I didn't buy one right then like I should have but I did order one this past spring.

I consider myself to be very lucky. As I said earlier, it was my first trip ever to Florida Colors. Luc had passed away around a year later. I liked him a lot. Him and Carol helped me to find the trees I was looking for. Carol told me that they were experimenting on growing stenopetala in those lined wire baskets, I wished that I had asked to see them then. Carol told me that because they grow more vine like instead of like a tree, they thought it would be good for basket culture. Hetty Ford(she is friends with Luc and Carol, and she has an extensive collection of plumeria), received a wire basket with 2 stenopetala planted in it. Luc planted them and gave it to her as a gift. I asked Hetty if she could show me pics of hers and even though, the trees were still small, both were blooming and she said she was going to have to transplant one of them out.

I also think anyone that buys a tree from them, has a good shot at getting blooms the first year. If not, the second year.

I love the basket idea because if you need to save on space, then this is a good option. Like everyone has been saying, this species has a natural vining habit to it, so once the tree gets late enough, the vines will naturally grow over the side of the pot and just hang over.

Like I said earlier, I got mine in spring of last year....probably around May. I planted it the same day, and right now, I have it in full sun, hanging on a Shepard hook. The plus about using the coconut husk lined wire baskets, is that they drain pretty fast. As long as you use a porous mix, root rot shouldn't be a concern.

I also should point out that Florida Colors offers a hybrid of stenopetala. It is a tree form, and from what I have been told, the fragrance and the flowers are the same.

I hope everyone posts pics of there stenopetala when it blooms!

I also wanted to get some opinions on jasmine. I have had luck growing them in the past. Right now I would like to get my hands on a jasmine sambas hybrid. I cannot remember the name but Logees greenhouses sells it. The flower looks just like a mini white carnation. I had never seen a double(or maybe even a triple) flowered jasmine before!

Andrew

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Hi Andrew!

Thanks for the lengthy reply!
Now I'm super excited to sniff mine if and when it ever blooms. Laugh.

I like the basket idea since mine has grown to the point where I'll either have to provide some support or let it trail down as it would do in a basket.
The only drawback I can think of is winter storage.
Seems like a hanging basket would be harder to store inside during the winter than an upright plant in a pot but I'll give it some thought. :)

Oh, I think the jasmine at Logee's you are referring to is called ‘Flore Plena’. It looks similar to 'Mysore Mulli'.

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: Logee's jasmine

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andrew78(6)

Hi Robert. So sorry that I didn't respond to this sooner!

For me, hearing that I could grow a plumeria in a hanging basket was very exciting! I have WAY too many potted trees, and it has become a serious space issue for me. Also, not having many fragrant vining plants made this purchase a big plus for me. I have a Hoya, my stenopetala, and now(thanks to you) I have my jasmine.

My stenopetala has grown about three inches this summer, and it is showing no signs of stopping. Our weather this summer has been so cold and wet, and I am pleased to see that it is still plugging along.

Robert, I doubt you will be disappointed when your stenopetala blooms for you. I am all ready thinking I will plant at least one more wire basket with another stenopetala...LOL! I just wish that this species was easier to propagate, but from what I have heard, it does not root readily from cuttings.

Andrew

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Andrew, no problem. Glad you nabbed the GDS! :)

So this morning after I was done watering my 5 zillion potted plants on a lark I decided to inspect P. stenopetala and lo and behold I think I have a tiny inflo! Woo hoo!

Sorry for the crappy grainy cell pic but I thought it was better than nothing. ;)

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Ohhh. Yeaaaaa!!

;-)

Laura

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Congrats, Robert, now the waiting starts!

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks guys!
And yes, now I'll be looking at that sucker every day, impatiently waiting. Laugh.
Maybe I'll have pics for the Blooming in September thread. :)

-Robert

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fragrant2008

wow congrats Robert no sign of buds on my Stenopetala yet :( but fingers crossed for your little bud :)

I do have what i think is buds on my artabotrys hexapetalus :) i have counted 3 so far.
Here is a pic what do you think?

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks, Brian! I hope yours finally decides to produce some inflos as well!

Hmm...I've never grown that plant but it sure looks like buds to me! Hope it blooms soon.
Let us know your thoughts on its scent if it does. :)

-Robert

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Shouldn't be much longer!
This one seems to not take long to open its flowers but I guess I shouldn't count my chickens before the eggs hatch. ;)

-Robert

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fragrant2008

"chickens before the eggs hatch" mmm i have done that before on a orchid spike that got munched on by a slug! did not touch the flowers just munched the bottom of the spike :( so keep a eye out Robert
What soil mix are you using and what feeds?

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Robert, I wish yours:

Tick, Tock, Tick!

Instead of Tick, slug!, Tick!

Fragrant that's awful!

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fragrant2008

I know you can wait all year for some orchids to flower and then a slug comes along and does that! its enough to put you a bad mood for the rest of the day :(

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

I've been through what you say, fragrant. I've had whole plants devoured, before I could say, slug. That's the risk we take growing plants.

On a lighter note, you can design a beer moat around your orchid ;-)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

You guys are scaring me with all this slug talk!
I've got some orchids with buds and now I'm terrified! Laugh.

Brian, I use the gritty mix for the plumies and have the all purpose 15-5-9 Dynamite slow release fertilizer in the potting medium and use Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro every couple of weeks (the same feed I use on all my plants except for the orchids). :)

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

I slug hunt at night and see them on my trees.. I take those little buggers and throw them Into my pond with my frogs. Lol.. I guess my frogs really love me! ;-)

I also use foliage Pro 9-3-6. Works great and I'm a fan of Gritty mix and 5-1-1

Hi Robert !!

Hi true blue!! Fragrant!! Aloha!!!!

I can't wait Robert It driving me crazy. Love this one. My friend in Cali had his blooming while I was there and it was heavenly... Ahhhhh!

Take care!!

Laura

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andrew78(6)

Congrats Robert! I keep looking at mine and still, no inflo :( I just got mine this spring from Florida Colors. I potted it in one of those coco lined wire baskets. I do like the way it drains. I just wonder how long the liner will last. Well I guess there is only one way to find out! Looks like stenopetala inflos grow a lot faster than most plumeria inflos!

I cannot wait for an update on this, and I also want to hear your opinion on the scent. I toured Florida Colors in July. I think I hit it just right. Most of there trees were loaded with inflos and flowers so I got to smell tons of blooms and this one left a lasting impression for sure! In fact, I all ready decided it won't go dormant this winter. I am going to keep it in front of a window and hope it rewards me with an inflo!

Andrew

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

It's getting to the point where I want to strangle it and yell 'Come on already! ' ;)

-Robert

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Ah, Robert, what extremes do plants go to teach us patience :-)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

I know, I know...and our technologies just make it worse since we're so used to getting everything now, now, now! :)

Hopefully I won't have to wait much longer to finally sniff this beauty.

-Robert

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andrew78(6)

Hey Robert. That is one heck of a nice inflo! Looks like your going to have a bunch of flowers :)

I checked mine again and still no inflo. I am starting to regret not buying a larger tree when I was at Florida Colors a few years ago.

Do you know Hetty? She lives in Florida. She showed me a picture of her 2 stenopetala that she has growing in one of those coco lined wire baskets. Luc planted it and gave it to her as a gift. The trees were still small when the pic was taken but both trees were blooming! She told me that she was going to have to separate the trees because they were getting to big.

Congrats on your inflo. I can't wait to see it bloom!

Andrew

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Sigh. It teases me daily. ;)

-Robert

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Ignore it ;-)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Ha! You know I check it every time I'm outside. Laugh.

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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

As long as you don't have a motion detector camera, you're fine, Laugh.

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

I'm thinking surely by tomorrow I'll have at least one bloom! :)

-Robert

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andrew78(6)

Ugh Robert! I know that feeling! I just went through that with my Psycho plumeria. It produced late inflos for me again, and today the mature inflo's first bud opened. I need to post a pic when the inflo has more open blooms. So far, I am seeing the largest flowers I have seen so far. I truly love this plumeria. I received it as a gift along with around 10 or 15 other cuttings. I originally had 3 Psycho but I lost one. These trees are very special to me and I have to say, Psycho is one of my favorites because of the fragrance. To me is smells like roses which is strange because its other name is Gardena.

Today I also checked on stenopetala, and I don't want to get my hopes up just yet but I think I may have spotted a tiny inflo just starting. Summer is almost over here in western NY, but I will definitely be giving this plumeria a spot under my 600 watt HPS light.

I also am happy to report that I know have at least 8 or 9 green buds on my GDTS jasmine that I got from the grower you recommended! Boy that is a slow growing vine! Well, at least above ground it is! I noticed that it is pretty well rooted all ready. I gently pulled on the base of the vine, and it didn't move at all. After only one month of having it in it's new pot, I think I will have to move it up one size again. I deliberately potted it in a small pot because I didn't want to have any root issues and I am so glad I did! Thanks again for the heads up on the grower! Now I just hope I can see blooms soon!

Congrats on your stenopetala! Soon you will get to see why I love it so much!!!

Andrew

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks, Andrew and congrats on your plumie blooms and your jasmine doing well! :)

So what's the first thing I do this morning?
Check on its progress, of course!
It's finally starting to open and has a light scent so far.
I'll keep everyone updated!

-Robert

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Yea. I'm watching too! ❤️❤️❤️

Laura

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 9:28AM
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fragrant2008

I am keep a close eye on this thread no sign at all of my stenopetala flowering :( but many congrats to you Robert i hope it is as good as people say it is :)

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 11:13AM
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andrew78(6)

This morning I went to check on stenopetala. Yesterday I was looking at it after the sun went down, so it was challenging for me to see the growth.

Today when I checked it, I noticed a triangular growth in the center. It looks completely different than the normal premature leaves, so I am keeping my fingers crossed it will produce an inflo.

Temps this week are supposed to be in the low to mid 70's so I am hopeful that I can keep my stenopetala, and other tropicals out for at least another week.

Thanks for the update Robert. I am excited for you....keep the pictures coming!

Andrew

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 1:43PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks, everyone!
I've got two open blooms so far. Still a light scent. Maybe the scent is stronger at night or the next day?

Andrew, I hope it is an inflo! :)

-Robert

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 2:33PM
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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Lovely flowers Robert, congrats!

Keep us posted on the fragrance report :-)

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 3:22PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Thanks!
To be honest so far I'm not wowed by the light scent that reminds me of Tabernaemontana and Trachelospermum.
I'd rather sniff the Brunfelsia. :)

-Robert

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 7:54PM
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andrew78(6)

Hey Robert. I was wondering how stenopetala is doing. Have you noticed more fragrance? I have to say I am pretty surprised you don't care for it as much as you do. I am thinking higher heat and humidity play into it also. When I first encountered it, I was at Florida Colors, and the tree/vine was loaded with tons of blooms. Maybe that is why I thought it would be stronger?

Andrew

    Bookmark   October 1, 2014 at 9:58PM
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andrew78(6)

Hey Robert. Guess what! I went outside tonight and grabbed my stenopetala. It was all ready dark, so I brought it indoors so I could check it out under better light..and there it was! My first inflo!!!!

We have not had rain here in the past 3-4 days so I mixed up some bloom booster in a gal of rain water and drenched it. I cannot wait to smell these flowers. I am guessing even with it growing under my 600 watt HPS light for 12-14 hours a day, it will still probably be the end of October maybe even the beginning of November before I can see and smell the flowers. With that being said, I'm hoping to see if there is a bigger difference with more intense light. I may even decide to run the humidifier to see if that makes a difference or not. My biggest challenge with growing my plumeria over the winter, instead of allowing them to to dormant, is SPIDER MITES!!!! Only my citrus and plumies ever seem to be the problem but I have F.E. and I am going to start spraying them down this weekend. Also, I believe stenopetala is evergreen and with it being such a thin vine, I wouldn't want to let it go dormant in fear that it would desiccate and die. I'm seriously considering calling Carol at Florida Colors, and buying a second stenopetala. I have a credit that I need to use and I have to say I love growing it in a hanging basket. For me, I don't have many hanging baskets to over winter so space won't be an issue for me.

Andrew

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 12:23AM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Hi Andrew!

Congrats on your inflo! I do hope it blooms for you and you have better luck with its scent than I have.
Don't get me wrong. The scent is nice but pales in comparison next to a sambac jasmine, brunfelsia, tuberose, white butterfly ginger, brugmansia, etc.
Who knows. I sniffed it this morning right after a rain storm and it was 78 outside but still didn't smell strongly.
Maybe it needs to be larger or maybe it's missing some crucial mineral to make it smell stronger or maybe it's just my nose! :)

Please keep us posted on the progress of yours and of course we'd love a scent report!

-Robert

This post was edited by robert1971 on Thu, Oct 2, 14 at 9:48

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 9:46AM
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fragrant2008

Have you tried smelling it at night Robert? Plumeria ×stenopetala (Apocynaceae) are most fragrant at night to attract hawkmoths which pollinate the flowers

Also just read " A most beautiful and unusual frangipani shrub. Thin branches in strongly weeping habit and spider like flowers smelling of Carnations. This is the true species - very rare!

Not to be confused with the totally different and extremely inferior P. stenopatala / P. Steno Patala which is being sold in Thailand and Australia as a deliberately misnamed plant to cause confusion and sell inferior common plants. Smells strongly of Carnations."

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 12:36PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Yup! Smelled it day and night, Brian. I've been around the block a few times. ;)

Who knows. Maybe I've got the wrong species or maybe the particular specimen I have is just not that strongly scented.

If anybody knows a source for a strongly scented one maybe I'll try again someday! :)

-Robert

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 1:28PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Found an old thread from last year where a person got the same plant from Florida Colors and it smells strongly for them and even wafts!
Maybe it's my nose after all. :)

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: Old thread

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 2:02PM
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true_blue (MTL CAN Z4)(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Robert, I've never grown Plumerias. But in my experience the first flush of most plants, (i.e. young plants) is normally not what it should be. Flowers can be lopsided, gawky, scentless, you name it...

So yours if it is the right one, might surprise you in another year, if you have the space for it....

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 2:47PM
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andrew78(6)

I am very pleased to report that I can confirm that I do indeed have my first ever inflo on my stenopetala!!! I am totally stoked! Now here comes the hard part. The waiting game! One month to go before I can smell these awesome flowers!

Robert, you said you bought your tree from Florida Colors. With that being said, I can confidently say that these are the real deal. They do sell hybrids of stenopetala that actually grow in tree form, but I don't think you got one of those by mistake.

I do think that other factors can effect the fragrance of the flower. On the Plumeria Forum, we discuss how seedling trees can take several bloom cycles before you get the final product. I'm not sure if that would apply to scent though.

I will give you a scent report in another month when my tree blooms. Maybe I will get lucky and I can get the inflo to mature faster under my light!

I really feel bad that your not getting a better scent from your stenopetala. I know scents are subjective Robert, but I almost feel like a fraud now, especially after all my talk about how amazingly fragrant stenopetala is!

Not to change the subject, but after realizing that I really did have an inflo on my stenopetala, I thought maybe my luck would continue.....and it did! When I bought my stenopetala, I also bought 2 Raspberry Sundae trees. I had bought one two years ago, and it never rooted. These I got grafted from Florida Colors. One tree has 2 tips, and the other is a single tipped tree. Well I found an inflo on my single tipped tree! I am so thrilled! I love all the amazing pics of R.S. and now I am going to get to see it for myself!
I don't think I have ever ordered a plumeria tree and had it from an inflo and bloom within the first year I got it!!!

Andrew

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 3:29PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Andrew, I'm not implying you're a fraud whatsoever!
SimiDude also states how strongly scented this one is so who knows?
My partner can hardly smell it though.
It does have a scent to my nose and maybe I'm just too accustomed to powerfully scented blooms to appreciate P.stenopetala ? ;)
I do love it's spidery shape though.

-Robert

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 3:58PM
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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

I feel that plumeria needs the right environment to bring out its scent. That's why even the most scented plumeria can still smell blah. I have given up on them, for now, because of the little scent i get from them.

    Bookmark   October 2, 2014 at 5:55PM
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andrew78(6)

Hi Robert. Hope you, and everyone here had a wonderful Christmas and New Years!

So after what seemed FOREVER, my first stenopetala flower bud opened! I honestly am very pleased with its fragrance! The scent is strong..reminds me of a cross between Jasmine and gardenia, though I have never claimed to be an expert at describing any flower's fragrance!

I noticed yesterday that the fragrance was more muted than today. It did open after my light was off, and now I can smell it about a foot away from the flower. When it is in front of my fan, it wafts nicely.

I have heard before that the first time a plumeria blooms, it isn't always as fragrant as it is in the following years. I am looking forward to how it will smell once I have a few more buds open. I can't imagine how it will smell once I have more inflos!

Andrew

    Bookmark   January 10, 2015 at 3:39PM
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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

That's great, Andrew!
I'm happy yours smells strongly. Who knows, maybe it's just my nose can't detect that particular odor very well where as yours can. :)

Please keep us posted on your thoughts on this plant and we'd love pics! ;)

-Robert

    Bookmark   January 12, 2015 at 8:59AM
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andrew78(6)

I did post pics to a FB Plumeria page so I have to look for it and see if I can do it here. Sadly the inflo aborted, but I have what looks like 3 new tips growing! My 'Divine' on the other hand is just pumping out the flower buds. It dropped it's last open flower but I know it won't be long for more flowers to arrive, and I do like it's scent! Robert, do you have 'Psycho'? That is also blooming still and smells great!

Andrew

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 3:49PM
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