Mission accomplished! :)

No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)May 29, 2013

I went to Upland Nursery today... I honestly don't know why I went there again. They were rude to me last year at the OC flower show, then on the phone, and again in person. A year later it's pretty much the same!

I went in there asking for the Vietnamese Gardenia because another member suggested the place. I walked back and forth but couldn't find any. It was hard to find since I didn't even know what I was looking for. When I asked, they told me it was "Near the front". Well the front has thousands of plants how was I supposed to find them? The thing is, there was only one other customer there besides myself, so it wasn't like they were too swamped to help me. Luckily the Mexican worker walked me over. At check out I asked the Asian dude if I should repot the plants and which gallon size. His curt answer... "Bigger". Wowza very helpful buddy! So I got my two Vietnamese Gardenia and left. Doubt I will be returning.


Here are my two Vietnamese Gardenias. For all the crap I have to put up with to get them, they better smell heavenly! LOL. With higher pricing and non existing customer service I cannot recommend this place.

My next stop....Green Mart again per another member's suggestion and what a difference! From the moment I walked in I was greeted with a smile. She then asked what I was looking for so I just said "Your most fragrant plants".

As soon as we walked into the back I smelled something AMAZING!! Sniffing my way around I spotted this!


She had 5 but the other 3 were sold so I grabbed the last two. I would have easily took all 5 home with me, that was how amazing the scent was.


Holy cow I am so in love with Aglaia Odorata! Each were around 2.5' tall and loaded w/ flowers. At $39 each I couldn't help but bought both.

Then she led me to another area and told me to sniff this other plant. Shoot... whatever it was I must take her home too! Unfortunately the blooming one was way too large so I took home the smaller version.


Here she is... Osmanthus Fragrans.

I then saw a bunch of smaller Jasmine which I bought just b/c I like the scent. I have no idea what they are. :) But they were only $8 each so I grabbed two.

Then she said to me you must get this one.

Ylang Ylang. I actually turned down the taller one for this 5.5' tree. I know nothing about this tree. So I will have to read up on this. But she said it's her favorite of them all. This Ylang Ylang either has 3 buds or 3 spent flowers I cannot tell for they are upside down... like they are hanging down instead facing up. So chances they're probably spent flowers. Oh well...


Here is the family shot of my fragrant plants I purchased today. I have no idea how to care for these. So I will be asking a lot of questions!

I did turn down the M. Figo something Banana. I am not a fan of bananas, I don't eat them so I certainly don't want to smell them! LOL.

Now I just need to get my hands on the elusive Belle of India! But this will keep me busy for a while until my Plumerias wake up.

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

OMG dont you just love that scent (aglaia odorata). It has to be one of my fav... : ) So lucky that you can buy all these plants locally. They all look great!

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

Yay! So happy you love aglaia as well (and can smell it)!
It's so not fair that you can just pop into a nursery and find all these fragrant treasures while most of us have to order tiny plants online. Laugh.

-Robert

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Waa No-Clue.. check the tag of that ylang ylang tree is it a dwarf (cananga fruticosa) or just a regular ylang ylang (cananga odorata). If it's the regular kind how lucky you are to find one that's already blooming! : )

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Yes! Though light it's so exotic and mesmerizing. I wouldn't mind getting a few more. How do you grow yours?

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

On another look, your ylang ylang looks like the vine variety (artabotry). Either artabotrys hexapetalus or artabotrys siamensis.

(Can you tell..how excited I am for you! Lol. You need to report on its scent when it blooms again.)

This post was edited by kemistry on Wed, May 29, 13 at 17:44

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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

Funny, I have the opposite experience - rude treatment at Greenmart, super friendly service at Upland Nursery. I'm am so digging your purchases. I picked up 2 aglaia odorata at Upland on Sunday and liked it so much that I went back today and got another one. They have the most pleasant wafting fragrance that catches you off guard. My aglaias are much smaller than yours though @ $12.99/plant. They had some at Greenmart but they were $14.99 a plant and I couldn't afford the bigger ones. I'd love to get an osmanthus fragrans but am running out of space. I got a vietnamese gardenia at Lakewood Nursery (Cypress?) last winter for $5! They're a great nursery too. The jasmine plants you picked up are jasminum sambacs either grand duke supreme or mysore muilli - I was there a couple of weeks ago and got one too. Both excellent plants. I think the ylang ylang plant is the vining variety because when I was at Greenmart a few weeks ago I asked the sales clerk and he said all of the ylang ylang were vines and they didn't have trees.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

I have no idea what kind it is but the lady said the flowers smelled like sweet melon and not perfum-y. Actually a vine would not be bad since I need something to cover the brick wall, so an evergreen with sweet flowers might just be the ticket. I will shoot photos of the flowers or spent flowers tomorrow. I spotted 3.

Phoebe - I saw the Aglaia at Upland for $12.99 but they were tiny. You probably can make six small pots like at Upland's from my one Aglaia. I wish the other three weren't sold so could buy all 5.

I don't know what jasmines I got but I will post a pic and maybe you can help me figure it out.

I got a few buds on the Vietnamese Gardenias so hopefully they will bloom soon.

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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

I hope my aglaia odoratas grow as quickly as Robert's did. They are known to be slow growers so finding ones as large as yours is very rare.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Phoebe,

The ones I saw at Upland even though small were also blooming. Are yours?

I'm thinking of getting a few more... but when I asked she wasn't sure when they will get more in. :( Bummer! I hope yours grow fast for you so you can enjoy it.

What else are you growing that leave you with no space?

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Wow. Nice haul!

If you say that it has a melon scent, then I'm probably going to head down there as soon as I can to get me one also. I hope it is indeed an Artabotrys (or Ylang Ylang Vine).

:)

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Well what is an Artabotrys? And if it's not then what could it be?

I kind of like the idea of a vine because I have a lot of wall space to cover! so this will work out great if it's indeed a vine! Plus the lady at the store said hers has even stronger fragrance than her M. Alba! And smells like "White Melon". So I figured I'll give it a try. They have a few more left... and one really good looking plant but at the time I thought it was a tree thus too tall. But if it's a vine then it's not a problem because you can train it to be lower. :) Darn I should have grabbed that one instead. LOL.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Here are a few photos from my Ylang Ylang plant. I still don't know what I have here. LOL. No label or tag anywhere other than the price. But if I have to guess I would say it's a vine b/c when I bent over I see a lot of other flexible branches that are tied to the wood stick to make it less floppy? I'm actually happy that it's a vine so as soon as these buds bloomed and I can experience the scent I will know if I need to get more to cover my walls.


See to me this looks like a spent flower! But what do I know.


It's green and hollow? If this is indeed a bloom where is the flower? So confused!


Another one... What do you think?


One of my $8 Jasmine bloomed. I bought two of these. I don't know what they are but I love the scent. Plus so cheap I won't feel bad if I accidentally kill them. But let's hope not!

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rajiram

Wow. Enjoy your plants.
I envy you for we don't have any such nurseries near San Fransisco Bay
Ylang Ylang I got through ebay is still small, waiting to bloom. Yours looks pretty
Enjoy
Raji

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Raji,

What Ylang Ylang did you buy on Ebay. I had no idea there were so many varieties. Tree, Dwarf, vines, etc. I hope mine will smell good. I will report it as soon as I detect something.

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rajiram

I bought Canaga Odorata . Seller said it will start flowering from young plant. I got mine last year. Still waiting .

I have the Vine one too, which is called Artabotrys hexapetalus. This one will take one or two years to flower

Raji

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

No they are buds. They will have a scent when the color changes from green to yellow. Yours looks awesome. Do report on its scent plz!

Your jasmine is probably mysore mulli. Man looks at alll the treasures you found :D

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Wow Raji,
You have two! I am going to find a tree to sniff so I know which I like better. I just have to find more nurseries to visit.

Will do Kemistry. So is that a good Jasmine? I think I have Maid of Orleans and now these two. Still looking for that Belle of India though. But right now my Aglaia is giving my M. Alba a run for its money. Holy it cow it smells so good. I might have to clear out more plumerias for more Agaia.

Do you have any other plants you want to recommend? ;)

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Well no clue, aglaia odorata is only my top-3. You need to sniff tuberose!!! It will blow you away with its very strong scent at night. Dont buy plants, look for bulbs as they are cheaper, look on ebay if you cant find them locally.

I think you are officially a fragrant plant hoarder just like the rest of us! Lol.

Ps. Yeah mysore mulli is a good one. Great find!

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Yeah so I am one of you guys now? Woohoo! Lol.

I will definitely look for tuberose. I don't know anything about bulbs though. So do they not sell the plants? I will have to call around tomorrow. Feel free to suggest more! Thank you for suggesting Aglaia!

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

They do sell tuberose plants but bulbs are much cheaper. From bulb to bloom only takes around 3-4 months. Have fun hunting and let me know what you think of its fragrance =)

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Oh btw No-Clue.. if you want a vine you should check out a telosma cordata. My dream is to b able to sniff its flowers someday :)

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

LOL Kemistry. Adding Telosma Cordata to my list. :)

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fragrant2008

i have to say going on my experience tuberose!! is one of the most over rated bulb/fragrances i have ever come across! well so far that is ! now i am not going to right it off completely as last year was the 1st time it flowered for me and i know from past experience that many things can play apart in when and how strong a fragrance is ! but after all the hype when it did flower last year one tall spike i was very disappointed :(
But on a happier note excellent plants No-Clue :) so lucky to find such big healthy plants especially that ylang ylang vine please let us know what the fragrance is as i have a small one coming in from Germany

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Thank you Fragrant. It's good to hear others' experiences. I am not good with bulbs so I might have to wait to find the blooming flowers. And we'll see how they smell.

I have to locate a few other plants first anyway.

Anyway I called Green Mart and spoke to the owner and he said he is out of the Aglaia and since he buys them from Hawaii he doesn't know when he will get more in. What a bummer! For I really really love this plant! He also confirmed the Ylang Ylang is a vine but he doesn't know which variety. I guess it doesn't matter what name it goes by as long as I love the fragrance!

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Tuberose smells best during your warmest nights. I started them late last year and so they bloomed in october and the scent didnt reach its full potential. Sort of like sniffing a plumeria on a gloomy day, bleh, lol. Im starting the bulvs earlier this time around so hopefully they will bloom around july or august. :)

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Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)

fragrant,

Did you grow the single or double?

-Robert

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greendale(6B)

My eyes are full of green - do not know is it because of looking at the pictures too long or because of envy. :)

Why and why all the nurseris and BBS never get these big, in flowering age fragrant plants up here, all we get are the same run-of-the-mill plants. Wish I could have a road trip to So Cal and drag all the plants back.

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Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

Hi Lynn!!

I love all of your beautiful plants!! You are soooo lucky to have nurseries that have all of these beauties!!

I have Tuberoses growing from bulbs right now. They are about 8-10 inches long and are looking pretty healthy. Bill turned me onto these beauties.. He might be able to help you find what you re looking for. ;-)

Have a wonderful evening!!

HI Robert, Kem and everyone!!!

Laura

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Greendale,

I grew up in New Eangland so I know how you feel. We used to visit CA and brought back plants for our dad but it was very hard to grow them in Boston. Just too cold in the winter.

Hi Laura!

I will definitely ask Bill. How do you like your Tuberose? I feel like I am cheating on my plumerias! Lol.

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fragrant2008

Robert it was a double i still have the packet they came in

they are late coming up this year! there only around 3inches high so might not get any flowers depends how good are summer is

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

No Clue, consider yourself an enabler (haha). I just got the ylang ylang vine and the jasmine also.

I ordered an Artabotrys hexapetalus a couple years ago and it was puny and eventually died. What a way to throw money down the drain, it was from a company people have warned against too. I hope this plant Green Mart sells is indeed A. hexapetalus. Daxin (a GW member) mentioned this one has a nicer scent the dwarf Cananga.

Also, did you mention pineapple? I think you may love the scent of tuberoses then. To me, it smells something like a gardenia with pungent pineapple notes. Glorious scent.

Michelia coco is also another one that has pineapple notes.

Also, I wanted to add, I smelled the Aglaia at Green Mart. It is wafting good in a green house setting and smells lovely, not too strong or harsh. The Aglaia I got from Logee's was small and did not have more than two panicles blooming at once. I suppose it needs to be a larger plant to have the wafting effect. I may get an Aglaia again in the future.

This post was edited by musaboru on Sat, Jun 1, 13 at 15:22

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Thats your purchase musaboru? Man.. that bud is almost yellow, you need to do a scent report in a few days! Lol.

How lucky you two are. ! My artabotrys hex is only 3ft tall. Wonder if it will ever bloom.

Nc..tuberose has a coconut note to its scent too ;)

Fragrant2008.. look for the single type. Im not impress with the Pearl.

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Yes. That one's the one I got. There were at least 6 other plants when I got there. This one had the most yellow flower which is why I got it lol.

Ok, time for some rambling.~
There is no doubt this is an Artabotrys. I notice there are "hooks" close to where the flower forms on a branch, which is characteristic for this genus, I guess so that plant can grapple onto the bark of trees among other things. I have feeling the plants from Green Mart may be Artabotrys hexapetalus.

I went perusing through some Thai language sites about the names. Artabotrys siamensis is called Karawek in Thai (it comes from a Burmese term for a mythical "bird of paradise"). While the Thai name for A. hexapetalus is "Kradang Nga Jeen" or Chinese Ylang Ylang. This vernacular name implies it is cultivated by the Chinese at least not that it is necessarily native to China; There are indeed indigenous Chinese Artabotrys species, yet the Chinese do cultivate A. hexapetalus anyways.

The nursery owners are Chinese or Taiwanese. So this is perhaps this species imported from Taiwan originally. If not Taiwan, then probably from Hawaii where A. hexapetalus is known to exist in the horticultural trade there.

Base on what I come across, it seems A. siamensis is also rare in cultivation outside of Thailand. There maybe some plants in the US already as we see some listed on eBay. But I think whether those listed on eBay are really A. siamensis requires a botanist familiar with it to say for sure if it's the straight species. There are indeed hybrids between the two that exist.

With that said, if you go to the link below, you can see a comparison of a "Karawek" on the left and a "Kradang Nga Jeen" on the right.

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.magnoliathailand.com/webboard/index.php?topic=1801.msg247209#msg247209

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Artabotrys is called dragon nails in vietnam, or at least thats the literal translation. Dhan on ebay used to offer rooted mature siamensis plants (not seedlings) which I regret not grabbing one back then. I heard that the hexapetalus type has a fragrance thats somewhat similar to the tree ylang while the siamensis is more lemony (?).

Anyway musaboru this thread inspired me to stop by my local nursery today and guess what I ran into... a magnolia called 'magnolia ashei'. Holy cow the flower is huge and it smells like watermelon and honey! Im so impress but the tree is huge thou.

Ps. So I just had to google some more on artabotrys hexa.. Someone in vietnam said it smells sweeter than the tree ylang and the scent is like ripe jackfruit?? I wish my tree would hurry up and flower already. Lol.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Way to go Musa! I am so glad you got one too! Lol.

Thanks for researching the plant. I thought the owner said he got his plants from Hawaii... and the fact that the lady worker there said hers smelled like melon, so it's quite possible our plants are A. Hexapetalus.

Kemistry I hope your plant will bloom for you soon. I am tempted to find the Ylang Ylang Cananga Ordorata. But it's not easy to find. And if I did find it I don't have room for such a large tree! What to do what to do? :)

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bunti(7)

No-clue,

did your artabotrys bloom? Can you please post the picture when it opens?

Thank you.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Hi Bunti,

Well the largest flower is getting less green almost like it's turning yellow? But I still can't detect any scent yet.

I'm not sure what to expect.

But in the mean time my Aglaia is blooming and filling the yard w/ sweet heavenly scent! I am looking to get a few more of these.

And as of this morning my Osmanthus Fragrans got a few tiny blooms on two branches! And oh my the sweet fragrance... so soft and so nice. I can't wait for more to bloom! I love them both!!

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Hi Bunti,

Well the largest flower is getting less green almost like it's turning yellow? But I still can't detect any scent yet.

I'm not sure what to expect.

But in the mean time my Aglaia is blooming and filling the yard w/ sweet heavenly scent! I am looking to get a few more of these.

And as of this morning my Osmanthus Fragrans got a few tiny blooms on two branches! And oh my the sweet fragrance... so soft and so nice. I can't wait for more to bloom! I love them both!!

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

So this morning as my daughter and I walked out of the house into the front yard... suddenly we looked at each other and immediately with a panic look on her face she said "MOM! I have finals today you can't make me late! Just investigate that smell when you get back." So I told her to get into the car and I would be right there. I knew I have mostly roses in the front and most just finished blooming. My plumerias are just waking up so no blooms yet. That leaves my Champaca but last I looked she didn't have any buds (only my 3 M. Albas are blooming but in the back yard.). But I looked just to be sure and I saw a handful of buds! So by next week I should be able to compare Champaca to my M. Albas.

Anyway, after I dropped off DD, I went to the side yards and nothing there. Then I went to my backyard and started sniffing. And sure enough one of the Ylang Ylang blossom has turned more yellow. And oh my sweetness! She has this amazing fragrance... just like sweet melon! Definitely NOT perfume. I'm guessing as she turns more yellow the next few days the fragrance will be even more amazing! Holy cow that sales lady was not kidding when she said ONE blossom can fill her yard with sweetness. I counted a total of 4 more buds but small. Now I need to figure out how to make this vine produce more flowers.

Now my Vietnamese Gardenia is also blooming. She's on the sweeter side compare to other Gardenias but to my unsophisticated nose... all Gardenias smell the same? I guess I am used to Plumerias where they each have a very distinctive fragrance. So while it's nice, it's pretty strong like a cheap perfume (no offense to anyone who loves this fragrance.) But compare to other fragrance it's the least of my favorite. I even like the Jasmines way better.

The big surprise for me has been the Osmanthus Fragrans. I sniffed the flowers at a Nursery before and while it was nice, it was just too light and didn't leave a lasting impression. I ended up buying one from Green Mart because it was so cheap $29.99. Then a few days ago a few flowers on two branches bloomed and oh boy I was in love! To me they smell different than the ones I sniffed at a nursery. Much much more potent on my tree. Not sure why... unless there are many varieties.

So as it stands my Top Five all time favorite plants in random order are:

1. Aglaia Odorata
2. M. Albas
3. Ylang Ylang
4. Plumerias
5. Osmanthus Fragrans

I am sure this will change as I branch out more and try other plants. Still have to get some orchids so I can find out what the heck Robert is talking about! :)

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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

Wow, I am so intrigued by the ylang ylang vine now. I'm going to stop by Green Mart to see if they have any left. Where did you get your Champaca by the way? I can't find them anywhere. I'm also unimpressed with the Vietnamese gardenia - you have to really stick your nose in the flower to smell it, then you get pollen all over your nose.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Phoebe

I got mine at Green Thumb but check Green Mart. They have so many M Albas that they might have Champaca as well. Also check out their Osmanthus and Aglaia if you don't already have them.

Now I must hunt for a Ylang Ylang tree. :)

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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

No clue so you dont like the scent of the vnese gardenia? Dont hate me!! Lol.

How tall is your champaca? Can you take a pic of your tree?

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Kemistry

You have lost all credibility in my eyes! I blame it all on you. LOL. Nah... fragrance is such a personal thing... so it's all good. I'm going to plant them next to my two Camellias and Madagascar Jasmine vine by the front side yard where they will get some sun some shade. Besides you redeemed yourself when you recommended Aglaia Odorata. I'm afraid she's right up there as being one of my favorite... neck to neck w/ my M Albas.

Here are some photos of my Champaca. She's planted in the front yard in the middle of the circle. Don't laugh my kids already did that. They said it looks like a shrine! How rude. No respect for Mama's design. LOL. Anyway, Champaca is about 6 ft tall and starting to have some buds. I will take pics of the buds tomorrow. :)

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/plumeria/msg0517524620062.html?26

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

No clue you are at it again lol. I need to get that champaca if you say it's already blooming at six feet just hope it can fit into my car. There goes my paycheck.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Musaboru,

She's around six feet and showing some buds this week! I was HOPING she would since all my 3 M. Albas are blooming. And sure enough I spotted some this morning. The poor thing is definitely tougher than the M. Albas for sure. She's in the center getting sun from 11am to sunset and not protected from the wind either. While she suffers some sun burnt, she still pushing out new growth and now buds. So I'm hoping w/ time she will acclimate to her new home and grow stronger. Let's hope I like her scent or she will lose her spot to the Ylang Ylang (Cananga odorata) tree I'm still searching for.

So right now my two Aglaia and Osmanthus are on a holding pattern (I can't plant them until I find the Ylang Ylang). Then I have to find the best spots for all of them. That's all the planting space I have... unless I bring my plumerias count from 80 to way down. We shall see.

But with a face like this and awesome fragrance how do you resist?


Jungle Jack's Wizard

This bloom was as large as my daughter's hand! Moragne #23


Kimi Moragne


Jungle Jack's J105

Just a few flowers to entice you all. ;) Remember besides being gorgeous they each have their own amazing scent!

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bunti(7)

What a co indidance,

One evening i was sitting in my patio, I smelled something unusual. I knew it smells like ylang ylang. Because i grew up with this plant. Immediately i went to the plant and noticed one flower blooming and few other small flowers. I was so excited. I had quite few blooms that year. After that the plant died.

No-clue, can you please post the picture.

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rainpetals

HI no-clue, where do you live? I have all of the plants your purchased, and have for years except the Ylang Ylang, I had one and killed it, I now have a ylang ylang vine that I have been babying for 4 years, I just transplanted it yesterday. I want the Ylang ylang that you bought, those are nice buds you have on it, they turn yellow, I'm still waiting for my ylang ylang to bloom hopefully this summer. Nice to know someone is as crazy about fragrance as I am, my backyard smells wonderful, the osmanthus is divine, smells like ripe apricots, I love it. and the perfume tree is beautiful but has to have warmth to have a good waft. I called Green Mart I have been there many times forgot their name, anyway they still have the Ylang tree for 56, they texted me pics of the flowers and said they are 5ft , I was gonna go buy one but found out it's the vine not the dwarf or reg Ylang Ylang tree so I decided against it, my vine has new growth on it but I think their new leaves, I just fertilized it so hopefully since it's 5 foot tall it will get flowers soon. :) Marilyn

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Hi Marilyn,

Yeah for fragrant garden! I am a sucker for scent.

The Ylang Ylang you have now is that a tree or a vine? I have the vine. And today, both hubby and my youngest said the flower smells like ripen melon!! I will take a photo later... since I have to head out soon.

I am still looking for Cananga odorata tree though so I can sniff and see if I like it. I can't wait for my Osmanthus to bloom more.

If you go to Green Mart can you see if there are anymore Aglaia Odorata in the larger pots? I know they have the smaller one Gal ones but I want the larger ones for $39.99. They were sold out last time I went. I wouldn't mind picking up two more. :)

What other fragrant plants do you have?

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 1:25PM
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fragrant2008

so so so jealous :P soooooo want my Artabotrys hexapetalus to arrive now after reading all the comments :) and your so lucky to have a place where you buy such a large flowering specimen :) some one buy me one a ship it over to the uk just label it picture frames ;)

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 1:37PM
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radhavall

Here is Artabotrys Hexapetalus...

Full Plant...

Flowers...

Dwarf Cananga Odorata, full plant..

Flowers...

Desmos Chinensis, Full Plant

Flowers...

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 10:15PM
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kemistry(8 - Oregon)

Hello Radha!!! I haven't seen you post for so long! Your trees look great (as always!) : )

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 11:00PM
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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Radha you gotta tell us which one is your favorite lol

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 1:10AM
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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Wow Radja simply amazing! Where did you get all your plants? How old are they? Are they all planted in full sun? I see some flowers near the first two plants...what did you plant next to them? It looks so nice together.

Also I thought the Artabotrys Hexapetalus is a vine, yet yours look like a tree form? I am so confused I don't know what I have any more. Can you describe the scent from all three please?

Thank you!

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 1:54AM
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meyermike_1micha(5)

I can't smell a darn thing on BOTH my Odorata! Odorata Nada is what mine are.

I try at day, night, morning, humidity, dry weather, and nothing worth talking about.
Once I did get a slight whiff, with my nose in the middle of my plant on a very sticky day in the early a.m.

For me, these plants just take up room and are pretty. I just don't get it. My Iris's and my Champeca are to die for smelling the whole yard up every day!

I have yet to find a Hoya that has a very powerful fragrance whaffing an entire area up like my Australlis.

Great job with yours and wonderful looking.

Mike

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 9:05AM
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radhavall

Hi Kem,
Thank you..hope all is well with you.
Musaboru,
The best of all is Artabotrys Hexapetalus. I could smell it all day.The sweet fruity smell is my all time fav.
No-Clue,
I got 2 Artabotrys plants almost 10 years ago as 10 inch plants, one from Hawaii and the other also from west coast . Those days!!!! it was hard to get them locally. But now they are available as bigger plants. I posted the one i have in the back. I think there is slight difference in flowers and their fragrance. Love them both. It took them almost 6 years to bloom and for me it was worth the wait. Now they are more readily available in local nurseries in South Florida. They are in full sun. Arta is entangled with Louis Phillipe rose. Dwarf Cananga is with old blush rose and Allamanda and Thryallis which is in buds now..

Arta is a shrub / woody vine. It is easily grown as shrub as you can see. I think it prefers it. It does have hooks that it can use i guess for a vine, but does very well as shrub. Mine have been cut back many times and it does well.Your pics show a good Arta shrub. The flowers are still in bud stage in the pic. The smell is when the flower is full grown and is just about to turn yellow. When the flower is ripe and if you are near the plant you will not miss the smell..

The other two, Dwarf Cananga and Desmos Chinensis are not as sweet smells as Arta. Kind of musty. I would not have got them if I smelled the flower when I bought them. I do have Cananga Odorata tree that I planted in the back woods of my home and it doesn't get any water other the rains.The flower and fragrance is similar to Dwarf variety.
Good to be back in touch...

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 9:58AM
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radhavall

No-Clue Can you post a more mature flower? the small ones look a little leafy, and like I said there is slight difference in fragrance in the 2 Arta I have.

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radhavall

Thanks Mike..
Do you have Arta or Cananga? Can you post a pic?

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 10:26AM
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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Thx for the description Radha now I can take the desmos and canangas off my mind and put those on a no-buy list, LOL. I had read they were musky too and the ylang ylang candle I smelled at target has a musky scent too. Not my kind of scent....

The scent in mines started out smelling like jackfruit and then it changed to the smell of bananas with a sharp note in the background similar to that of crazy glue. I guess that could be described as melon also or perhaps they smell a little different because they are seed-grown. It reminds me a lot of the scent of michelia figo which to me is not just bananas it has apple like notes to it too.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 11:33AM
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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Will take some photos as soon as I charged my battery.

Radha, THANK YOU for describing the fragrances!! Like Musa I now can stop searching for the other varieties. I'm not into the musty or musky scent. Heck I'm not even crazy about the perfume scent like on my Charlotte Ebert plumeria. I'm all about sweetness though so I'm happy with this Ylang Ylang vine.

Musa you are correct about the Jackfruit scent! I knew it reminded me of something but I just couldn't put a finger on it other than melon. LOL Luckily my nose didn't detect the banana scent that yours did. Because I don't like bananas.

So can we confirm that what you and I bought are indeed the Artabotrys Hexapetalus vine based on the fragrance?

Also Radha, why did you turn this into a bush rather than a vine? Is that just because you like the shape better? I am not sure what the advantage of growing it in one shape over the other. And when you said you pruned it do you cut from the top or the bottom and when do you do this?

Last but not least... I only found 4 more smaller buds... any idea how I can entice the plant to bloom more?

I will post some pictures shortly. Thank you!!

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 1:30PM
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radhavall

No-Clue, It is mostly shrub type. The upper ends are however vine with flowers , but I have not seen them in India to be grown as vines. I have always seen them as shrubs and that is indeed much better for me as there is more control. I had to prone them as one one was top heavy and leaning forward and had to cut both top and few canes at the bottom. No particular time but doing in the growing season, plant can recover better.But do it after blooms are done as the flowers form on new canes.HTH..

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 8:26PM
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meyermike_1micha(5)

man, from the sounds of them two plants, now I want one!

Where doooo you get any of these plants? :-(
Your plants are amazing!

Hello to everyone by the way.

Kemistry, the Chicken Feet cuttings are doing great!:-)

Mike

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mrlike2u(**)

How do you not cook the roots on a cement walkway and that close to a brick wall ?

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Mike, Gardino Nursery sometimes has Artabotrys hexapetalus for sale. This is the species I believe that me and No Clue has. The nursery we got it from just labels it as Ylang Ylang Vine though.

I had another flower "ripen" today. It seems to got bigger than my first flower and the scent developed better and stronger. Love it!

This post was edited by musaboru on Wed, Jun 12, 13 at 0:10

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Sweet! How many more blooms do you have on that vine? Are you keeping it in the pot or will you plant it? I am not sure where to plant it.

Ok I took pics but I can't find my cable thingie to plug the camera into the pc to download the photos. You are not going to believe what I did!

I went to another nursery today and saw tons of blooming banana shrubs. They are so strong but I don't like the scent. But they all look great.

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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Radha,

How far from the wall did you plant the Artabotrys Hexapetalus? Did you have to provide any type of support or just let it flop over into a bush form?

What kind of fertilizer do you use and how often? I am getting ready to plant mine but I just don't know where!

This post was edited by No-Clue on Wed, Jun 12, 13 at 9:45

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radhavall

The one in the picture is about 3 feet from the wall and is close to the fence. Another is about 2 feet from the wall and is doing well also. As I said before they do have slight differences in flower and smell.. May be one is Atra Hexapetalus and the other Arta Siamensis.. I just left both alone and that is how they grew. Fertized them what ever I have handy...They are in full sun in South Florida..HTH.

    Bookmark   June 13, 2013 at 1:28PM
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sunpetal

Hi No Clue I am posting the pic of My Siamensis Ylang Ylang vine, there is the Siamenisis and the Hexapelaus, I read on another blog that The hex has thicker leaves than the Siamensis. I bought it small on ebay, and it's this tall now, I just tnansplanted it, gave it more sun and fertilized it so I'm hoping to get flowers soon. When I purchased it I thought I was getting the Dwarf Ylang Ylang but recently found out I have the vine. A long time ago I bought a Ylang Ylang normal tree from Gardino's I didn't have a house then and it died in the pot. I have 3 m. albas all in the ground, also 3 sweet olive in the ground, a michelia figo in the ground, and the perfume plant Agaila odorata, which I love too. I have star jasmine, Madagascar vine and of course multiple Angel trumpets... that smell my whole yard, I have pink, white and yellow. I love them they are easy to start from a branch, If you want starters I can give you some. I also have 120 rose bushes, I was addicted to buying all the fragrant plants in 2006, my name on this blog use to be Angelsmell. I met a lot of really nice people here. I also purchased a couple of fragrant white flowering plants from gardino that are still blooming in the ground. I love all of them the same they all have different personalities. I can hardly wait for my ylang vine to bloom, I just bought a second baby on ebay. What city are you in No Clue?

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sunpetal

Here is a picture of my Ylang Ylang vine siamensis

    Bookmark   June 17, 2013 at 12:11AM
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sunpetal

I am looking for a Sweet Almond Verbena (aloysia Virgata) it smells so wonderful ! like Almonds, If anyone knows where I can buy one in the inland Empire in CA let me know. please♥

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 2:34PM
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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Oh my goodness thank you for posting that! Now looking at your Siamensis Ylang Ylang vine I think that's what I have! The leaves look very similar and not thick at all. But the second Ylang Ylang vine I bought a few weeks ago in SD, the seller INSISTED that it's a Hexapetalus! He said it was air layered 6 years ago and was imported from (shoot I don't remember which country!). I got two blooms from that vine and they smell just like sweet melon! So I'm so confused. But whatever ... I love them both!

Wow 120 roses! Amazing. I only have about 20. All fragrant of course. But I do have around 80 plumerias. :)

Funny thing... my family doesn't like Banana Shrub. They said it smells like nail polish remover. Good thing too because I don't like bananas. So I won't be getting that one.

Thanks so much for sharing. I lost the cable to my camera so I still can't post my photos! :(

My Madagascar Jasmine vine has some buds so I'm dying to sniff. I don't have Angel Trumpet so I will have to investigate those.

I am holding off planting my two Ylang Ylang vines until I am done buying other plants. This way I will know exactly where I will plant what. Already I had to move a few plants around.

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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

I was just at Upland nursery today looking for a grafted First Love gardenia but all they had were Mystery and Veitchii. They had some Banana shrub plants. I took a whiff of the flowers and immediately thought of nail polish remover!!!

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 5:28PM
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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Gosh... where did I see grafted First Love Gardenias? Shoot I have been to so many nurseries recently that I forgot where I saw them!! I almost bought some but decided against it. I already met my quota for the year... when I killed the two standards so I will have to wait for next year to try again.

I will call around tomorrow to see where I saw these and if I find them I will let you know.

So you also think Banana Shrub smells like nail polish remover. Haha... and I thought my family was strange! LOL

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 8:25PM
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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

That is really nice of you No-Clue. First Love gardenia is my favorite out of all of them. The blooms are as big as roses! They now graft them on thunbergia stock so that they can with stand alkaline soil and full sun.

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ordphien(9)

Green thumb, and Plant Depot both carry grafted First Love gardenias.
Shouldn't be too far from you.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 9:56PM
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phoebe368(10a Anaheim)

Cool, I'll take a trip to South OC tomorrow.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 10:22PM
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No-Clue(So Cal Zone 9)

Yep it was at Green Thumb. They have grafted First Love and Mystery and one other one. They were all blooming profusely and HUGE. At least 3-4 feet tall. Some have very nice shape to it. I want to say they were around $49.99.

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ordphien(9)

Yup.... they carry lots of different varieties at greenthumb.
The First Love might be listed as Aimee.

The large grafted shrubs are $50.... I believe they also carry smaller grafted shrubs for less....

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susieqz

hey, no clue.

if you're still looking for a belle of india, i just received a very nice belle from hirt's thru amazon.

it's in a 6'' pot and is covered with blooms and buds. they are mostly triples. good price too.

susie

    Bookmark   June 28, 2013 at 1:53PM
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