4 o'clocks fragrance ?

sweetmicheliaAugust 23, 2008

I have planted 4 o'clock flowers because I remembered they have a wonderful scent, all of the ones I planted from seed and bloomed have not had any fragrance, does anyone know why? Do only certain colors have a fragrance?

Here is a picture of one of the flowers that I took, no fragrance at all? The other ones were solid pink.

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
scentednectar

They are only fragrant at night, and I find that you have to get fairly close to the flower to smell them.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2008 at 2:23PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
sweetmichelia

I have smelled them at night and no scent that I can detect. The ones I rememberd were so strong that when you
walked by them you could really get a strong whif. I read that the yellow ones have a stonge fragrance anyone know?

    Bookmark   August 23, 2008 at 2:40PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
mcbdz(8 Louisiana)

I have the pink and they are very fragrant from several feet away. I am in a humid area though. That may be the key? My sister has yellow and she claims they are just as fragrant.
Pattie

    Bookmark   August 25, 2008 at 1:48PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
sweetmichelia

I just planted new ones a couple of months ago, bought the seed packet from Wal-mart it said fragrant on the package, they just started blooming this week and no fragrance, they are an orangey pink color... I'm just baffled by this whole frangrance thing, I just ordered some new seeds from E-baby that said fragrant, we'll try it again..... LOL

    Bookmark   August 26, 2008 at 1:45AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
allison1888

Will these work in Zone 5?

    Bookmark   August 26, 2008 at 12:34PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jeff_al

only if you lift the tubers in the fall in zone 5. you would want to do that because they flower better the older they are. don't know if you would get good flower production from seedlings each year.
i have ones with solid white flowers and they are nicely fragrant. in fact, never heard of one that wasn't fragrant.
i think you sniffer is out of whack, sweetmichelia. :-)
if you like, i can collect some seeds and send for postage.
i don't know how many there will be, though. i have tried to eradicate them over the years because they spread so aggressively here but have kept one clump and mow or pull any stray seedlings that appear.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2008 at 2:36PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimshy

I suspect that most 4 o'clocks sold these days, like petunias and other annuals, are selected for color and floriferousness, not fragrance. White varieties tend to be the most fragrant, in general, and like folks said, they're only fragrant in the afternoon, hence the name.

I've never gotten any scent from any I've smelled either!

Jim

    Bookmark   August 28, 2008 at 7:23PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
chaman(z7MD)

4 o'clock plant does have some mild fragrance but it is not wafty fragrance like that of Jasmines.

Pic. of 4 o'clock flower from my garden.

    Bookmark   September 1, 2008 at 11:02AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
mcbdz(8 Louisiana)

I think part of it may be how young your plant is. Mine are very strong every evening. Here's my plant.
Pattie

Here is a link that might be useful: 4 O'clocks

    Bookmark   September 1, 2008 at 7:41PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
sweetmichelia

Here is a picture of the pink ones that I planted from seed that look like your flowers, these have absolutely no
fragrance at any time of the evening.... :(
I just planted a whole new batch I got on ebay, he said they are fragrant we'll see. I don't get it.....

    Bookmark   September 4, 2008 at 2:12AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
armyyife

I just happened to be reading through some of your posts and found this. I just thought I would add my 2 cents in here for whatever it's worth.

My mom's neighbor has some purple 4 o'clocks. They have a very strong jasmine scent. She said when the evenings are humid the smell just perfumes the air. She did not know what kind of 4 o'clocks they were and said she got them from a friend. She gave me some seed so I'm excited to try them.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2008 at 8:24AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
chaman(z7MD)

It does good in warmer weather.I remember a 4 o'clock plant in my school garden in India.It's flowers had very strong fragrance.Flowers were larger in size compared to what I have here.I believe it is a warm weather plant.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2008 at 12:21PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
sunpetal

HI I'm sweetmichelia with a new name, now sunpetal, anyway my story is this, when I lived in Yorba Linda 35 years ago I smelled a gogeous scent walking out back, it was 4 o'clocks, that was so long ago I don't recall the color. I have been trying to re-enact that plant ever since, my friend has white ones that smell beautiful, I have some white in my garden that have a slight scent if you put your nose in them, also I have a huge bush of bright pink that have no scent, I have tried all times after 4 nothing. Please tell me your colors that waft.

    Bookmark   June 24, 2013 at 3:45PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ordphien(9)

It's sort of a toss up....
I sprouted 5 packs of four o'clock seeds, and the fragrance varies greatly from individual plant to individual plant.

One plant in particular is around 6 times more fragrant than any of the others. I can smell it throughout my whole yard and house at night

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 7:58PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
sunpetal

so what color is the plant that has a fragrance? I have 2 colors of pink and one white and none of them are fragrant, but my friend had a white one that was.... weird.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 11:54PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ordphien(9)

Well, I went around my yard and sniffed al my four o'clock for you. Turns out I have four that smell extremely strongly.
One is pink, one is red, one is white, and one is yellow.
When I went around I took note of how many in each colour category were fragrant. In the end out was pretty much even.
I don't think colour has much to do with fragrance.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:49PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
blutayle(z9aFL)

It seems a lot of these hybrids today have been bred with less fragrance. If you google old fashioned petunias...there is a seed site that sells nothing but fragrant seeds...I think it was something like seed exchange or something....specializes in the old heirloom seeds and varieties...those petunias and four o clocks would knock your socks off. So sad that it has come to this...I am a fragrance freak...that is the first thing I look for. Good Luck.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 5:50PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
simounagta(Zone12 /Cebu, Philippines)

I live in the tropics where humidity is high and my 4 o'clocks plants grow well. Fragrance ? Could not sense it. So disappointed & planning to get some from other sources.

Here is a link that might be useful: PHOTO OF MY 4 O'CLOCKS

    Bookmark   September 1, 2014 at 11:02AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
princesspea(sunset14)

I have had them from select seeds catalog, and they are quite fragrant at night but not at all until after 10pm. I grew the coral/yellow/pink vareigated kind. Can't remember the name. The tuber is a monster and having been warned about their wandering ways, I had them in a half barrel.

Select seeds catalog is awesome : http://www.selectseeds.com
Good reading for winter time when we can imagine gardening six acres of fragrant plants!

Pea

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 4:13PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Just recieved my michelia alba!
Today I received my michelia alba that I bought from...
Andrew Scott
Lilac identifications
Hi all, Last year I purchased what I thought were two...
mabend
Blooming in April!
Winter is still persisting with promise of snow for...
true_blue
Clematis Sugar-Sweet Blue
Ugh. Another fragrant clematis to tempt me! Sugar-Sweet...
Robert (zone 7a, Oklahoma)
What is finally being evicted this year?
Anyone finally lose patience or be so disappointed...
Maggie (Vancouver, BC 8a)
Sponsored Products
Chroma Kasumi Titanium Coated 4.75 in. Utility Knife - KTG04
$109.95 | Hayneedle
Fine Art Lamps Capistrano 401681ST Four-Light Outdoor Wall Light
LuxeDecor
Hand-woven Shagadelic Copper Chenille Rug (2'6 x 4'2)
Overstock.com
Noble House Crystal CRYS-2602 4' x 6' Cola Rug
$260.00 | PlushRugs
Oxygen Lighting | Pathways LED Wall Sconce
$308.00 | YLighting
Learn to Bookbind Kit
$22.99 | Dot & Bo
TOTO Lloyd(R) Pedestal Lavatory
Modern Bathroom
Luxor Flat Panel Cart - LE40WTUD-B
Beyond Stores
People viewed this after searching for:
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™