Pagoda Clerodendrum paniculatum question

crueltyfre(Tampa 9a heat 10 sunset 26)May 5, 2012

I have one of these and it wilts every afternoon. It's in full sun (for those familiar with my yard it's in the back corner by the gardenia's and beauty berry). The sprinklers are on once a week and the other plants in that area seem fine with that watering schedule.

I'm not sure if this is a sun issue or a watering one. Everything I see online about it says it's a full sun plant. But the fact that it only wilts in the afternoon tells me it's too much sun.

I then started watering it with the hose in-between sprinklers, and that didn't seem to help and is killing the texas sage next to it.

Do you think it needs more shade or more water?


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rowdy13(9a Valrico)

I've got a Red Pagoda Flower, Clerodendrum speciosissimum, (one of my "invasive" plants). It wilts in the sun but always looks fine the next morning. I've got a number of plants that do this including the Belize Sage, firespikes, and Dwarf Powderpuffs. I wouldn't worry about wilting unless it's wilted before the sun hits it. Watering for the Texas Sage may be adequate for the Clerodendrum. That said, most of my plants that wilt in the sun do great in shadier locations.

Here is a link that might be useful: Clerodendrum speciosissimum

    Bookmark   May 5, 2012 at 10:03PM
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crueltyfre(Tampa 9a heat 10 sunset 26)

Yep, that's what it's doing, wilting in the afternoon, fine in the morning. I got pink and purple firespikes from you a few years back and had them in the exact same spot and they did the exact same thing. So I moved them to more shade and they stopped wilting. But everything I read on the pagoda says full sun, which is why I haven't moved it. Guess I'll treat it like the firespikes. Thanks,

    Bookmark   May 6, 2012 at 10:09AM
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annafl(z9b/10a Sarasota)

I have a cluster in filtered shade and another in half day sun. The ones in filtered shade look best and don't wilt like the others, although they both get about same watering with sprinklers. I don't think water is the problem as they have very long tap roots. Sun is what make mine wilt.

I control mine by pulling them out when they are about 6-12 inches high and after a rain (otherwise they break off).


    Bookmark   May 6, 2012 at 2:31PM
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Our red lady papaya has started wilting in the PM. At first we thought it was lack of water, but as soon as it catches some shade (after four) it is fine till the next afternoon. Thinking about moving it to a spot with earlier afternoon shade. The 25 gallon containers, like the one it is in, are fairly easy to move.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2012 at 4:35PM
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four(9B (near 9a))

With regard to sun /shade, mine (about which I ask below) came from a
creekside patch of these, flowering and thriving in shade beneath tall trees.

About leaves :
Seven little plants in ground, started from cuttings.
One rooted cutting /plant still in pot, not ready for ground.
Differing mixes of sun /shade among the eight.
Except on one plant, all leaves have progressively lightened
to chartreuse yellow. Leaves appear healthy otherwise.
The one also is beginning to lighten.
Adjacent plants of different kinds remain normal.

Please share your observations of leaf colorings over time.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2014 at 9:42AM
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Yellowing leaves often mean they need iron, especially if you see green veins in the leaves. But some leaves are turning yellow now due to the cold temps we've just had.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2014 at 11:43AM
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