Where to plant in this bed?

ajc9(5b)September 3, 2013

Hello all!

Flowerfrenzy and a few others helped me a lot with some orange variety heuchera suggestions...thank you again! I decided to place some orange specimens around the corner from this bed;)

I'm actually going to purchase some online...bc I just can't find the colors I want locally...

I'm going with three chartruese hosta and two heuchera here...obsidian...in this particular bed. Good combo, I think?

Where would you place them? I'm thinking curved around this japanese maple. Do I stagger them...or...? What do you plant in front of your heuchera? Something lower, I'm sure...so they aren't hidden...:)

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ajc9(5b)

I'm just noticing this pic is a bit poor. I'm waiting for the sun to set and will take another photo.

:)

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 4:15PM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

It's a matter of personal taste, but I tend to like to place shorter heuchera in front of my taller ones. I've also used ground covers (such as ajuga and blue star creeper). Miniature golden sweet flag (Acorus gramineus) is a cute, spikey little grass-like plant that likes part shade. Mini hostas are also cute in front of heucheras.

I don't know what size and type of hostas you've chosen, but the vase-shaped (or upright) hostas are a nice choice to go with heuchera. You can nestle the heuch up near to the base of the hosta and the hosta will stand up over the top of it. The heuchera will add a nice pop of color beneath and look like a little skirt around the stems of the hosta.

I stagger mine when I plant them and then kind of let the leaves grow into each other. They fill in nicely and have a lush look. The picture I've included shows a small heuchera garden that I have. I staggered them when I planted them this spring according to height. As you can see, they've started filling in nicely.

I have some questions about your bed. Are you only planting things in that shady area, or are you going clear out to the ends where it's sunny? Does the area in shade get some sun during different times of the day, or does it mostly stay shaded with the outer part being sunny? I'm asking because it may make a difference in what you ultimately decide to plant there.

This post was edited by flower-frenzy on Tue, Sep 3, 13 at 16:26

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 4:22PM
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ajc9(5b)

Flower frenzy...you are awesome!!

Here's another photo. This area receives dappled morning sun. The far right next to the post is mostly all shade since its so close to the house. Late afternoon in mid summer it's almost all sun after 3-4.

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 4:38PM
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ajc9(5b)

I just googled the sweet flag acorus stuff...I really like it!

The hosta I think I'll choose is August moon...

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 4:40PM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

August Moon is a nice hosta. Definitely more of a sprawler than a vase-shaped, though. It can reach up to 42" wide, so take that into account when you plant your heuchs around it. Otherwise, it'll end up looking like your hostas are eating your heuchs for lunch! Lol

That amount of sun should be good for growing hostas and heuchs. I think you mentioned that you've chosen 'Obsidian'. That one will take a full day of sun without burning if adequately watered. It'll stay purple longer if it's in more shade, though, otherwise it'll go greenish in the hot summer months. With that amount of sun, it should stay mostly blackish-purple. Mine always go back to being purple once the weather cools down, even if they go green in August.

Make sure to post pics when you get it all planted!

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 5:03PM
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ajc9(5b)

You know everything...I love it!

What vase-shaped chartruese hosta would u suggest over August moon?

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 6:04PM
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ajc9(5b)

Ok...twenty questions!

Would u suggest moving this tree over to the left? Maybe just a personal preference thing again...but the design aspect of gardening isn't my strong point. I loooove it but am a novice!

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 7:06PM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

Lol...I definitely don't know everything, but thanks. :)

I'm assuming that's a Japanese Laceleaf Maple? If so, then it'll stay relatively short, but get quite wide in diameter at maturity. I'd leave it centered like that so it has room to grow on all sides and can take on that nice, rounded shape that they have. I'd plant the hostas in front of it, even though they may dwarf the tree at first. If it's not a Laceleaf, and it's a taller variety, planting hostas beneath it should be fine. Beware of tree roots choking out your plants, though. Maples are notorious for sending out feeder roots thAt grow straight through other plants. This can cause an eventual decline in your plant growth. Some people have had good luck putting hostas into pots or those spin-out bags first and then sinking them into the ground. That way the tree roots can't get in.

Hmmm...a vase-shaped chartreuse hosta. One I have that I really like and doesn't get sun burned is called 'Sunny Delight'. It's available through Sebright Gardens.

You could also try looking at Don Rawson's hosta lists. I've included a link for the large, vase-shaped hostas. Just scroll down a bit and the hosta names are listed about 1/4 of the way down the page.

Here is a link that might be useful: Large vase-shaped hostas

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 8:15PM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

If you're looking for a smaller size, here's a link to the list for small/medium upright hostas. 'Flemish Gold' is a really nice one in that size category. It's available through Sebright Gardens as well. I'm sure you'll find something in there that will fit the bill! Have fun!

Here is a link that might be useful: Small to medium upright/ vase shaped hostas

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 8:19PM
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ajc9(5b)

You certainly know a lot more than me, flowerfrenzy!!

Yes, it's a laceleaf variety...

Super helpful links!! You know, I had not thought about small hosta to pair with the heuchera. I like that idea. Wow, I had no idea there were so many varieties...!

What perennial do you have planted next to your mahogany heuchera? I like the foliage...almost looks like shiny rosemary or something...

    Bookmark   September 4, 2013 at 5:40AM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

That's iberis (candytuft). That one is the typical white-flowering variety. I also have one that flowers pink/lilac and the foliage is a bit darker green.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2013 at 11:58AM
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ajc9(5b)

It's so pretty. How long does it bloom? I think it's just a spring bloomer? I'm tempted to purchase....

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 1:03PM
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flower-frenzy(8a)

It is only a spring bloomer. Mine is covered with blooms for about 3 weeks. Sometimes I get a bit of re-bloom when I shear it back after the main bloom, but it's pretty sparse. Mine is in partial shade. I think people who grow it in full sun might get better and longer bloom.

It's a pretty common plant (at least the white version). You can probably pick some up at your local home improvement store or WalMart. It may be easier to find in spring than in fall, though.

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 4:24PM
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vivian_2010

You are getting excellent advice from FF. Love her hosta and Heuchera gardens.

One of my favorite vased shaped yellow hosta is Sun Power. You can see Obsidian at the low right corner. In my Zone 5a garden, Obsidian stays dark purple even with mostly afternoon sun.

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 9:47PM
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ajc9(5b)

Thanks again, flowerfrenzy...it really is pretty...;)

Vivian: Beautiful! Does sun power take a bit of sun? Perhaps since it's near your obsidian heuchera. Is sun power a large variety? i still have my eye on a Giantland sunny mouse ears variety bc its a mini...

    Bookmark   September 7, 2013 at 11:16AM
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vivian_2010

Sun Power thrives in my garden, where it gets all afternoon sun. It was only planted last year so grows fast. It is a big Hosta, vase shaped. So you can under plant heucheras and the combination is striking.

If you are looking for a smaller one, Rainforest sunrise is my favorite. It is a hosta of the year for 2013. I saw lots of them at our local Home Depot. Extremely pretty and can be planted with the heucheras. Most important thing for me is that slugs do not seem to like it so it stays beautiful the whole season. But ii is a smaller plant compared to August Moon.

In my garden, August moon grows to be about 20in tall and twice as wide. They have nice yellow color (receiving a couple hrs of afternoon sun).Only thing is it is a magnet for slugs so by summer it lookd pretty bad.

Good luck and post pictures when you are done.
Vivian

    Bookmark   September 7, 2013 at 2:50PM
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