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inkognitoJanuary 20, 2010

I thought this was rather good: Knowledge tells us that tomato is a fruit. Wisdom tells us not to put tomato in fruit salad.

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bill_vincent(Central Maine)

Great illustration!

    Bookmark   January 20, 2010 at 7:28PM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

Wow! all this time I done wrong!

What about a Hubbard Squash? That's a fruit.

    Bookmark   January 24, 2010 at 6:20PM
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kwoods(Cold z7 Long Is)

The hunger for facile wisdom is the root of all false philosophy.

    Bookmark   January 27, 2010 at 3:49PM
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inkognito

For an aphorism to work it has to make sense, that was an aphorism kwoods. Yours needs some work.

    Bookmark   January 29, 2010 at 4:26PM
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bill_vincent(Central Maine)

Actually, it does make sense. In fact, I'd be willing to bet it's behind alot (not all) of the arguing that goes on over on the other side.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 10:36AM
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kwoods(Cold z7 Long Is)

Take it up with Santayana Inky.

I happen to agree with him, especially when referring to recipes for tomato salad.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2010 at 3:58PM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

KW, I prefer your aphorism over the OP. Not being contrary here but I've eaten fruit salads out of the can without tomatoes but have eaten salads with both fruit and tomatoes: tomatoes, cukes, zucchini, mandarin with young mizuna and raspberry vinaigrette.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 9:40AM
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inkognito

I've eaten a peanut butter and jam sandwich from time to time but it wasn't my hunger for facile wisdom that made me do it, I knew that it would be good even though such judgments are the root of false philosophy.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 12:01PM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

Ink, eating pbj sandwich is not seeking wisdom, facile or not.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 2:27PM
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kwoods(Cold z7 Long Is)

In certain instances eating a pbj would be wise as well as facile. Not sure enjoying pbjs qualifies as a philosophy false or otherwise but perhaps it does.

What's wisdom? Is it not a philosophy, a knowledge of truth or justice derived through past experience or learning? Wisdom is hard won, it is the grind, been there done that, not something you come by easily facilitated by catchy sayings.

The only way I would know if a tomato doesn't ever belong in a fruit salad is if I've experienced every iteration of tomato inclusive fruit salad. Can I otherwise eliminate the possibility of a delicious melon, mint and tomato drizzled w/ extra virgin olive oil and a pinch of sea salt combination? Therefore I posit that the notion of tomato exclusive fruit salad amounts to false philosophy.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 3:28PM
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inkognito

Oh well. The quoted aphorism was meant to demonstrate the difference between knowledge and wisdom and the superiority of wisdom. I understand that you think a fruit salad CAN have tomatoes in it and that a regular salad CAN have fruit in it but this does not alter the truth of the aphorism. Unless of course you also disagree that there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. I agree that this is a facile example (don't ALL aphorisms fall into this category?) but it was not intended as a treatise or as a philosophical absolute (if such a thing exists) it was certainly not presented as a law.

As for yours, do you think anyone hungers for "facile wisdom", it being an oxymoron by your own definition, i.e. "Wisdom is hard won". I don't think I understand what a "false philosophy" is perhaps it is presenting some loosely connected words as wisdom.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 5:39PM
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bill_vincent(Central Maine)

Man you guys will argue over ANYTHING!! LOL

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 7:13PM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

Are you accusing someone of ANYTHING?

    Bookmark   February 7, 2010 at 2:10PM
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inkognito

Yeah Bill, don't you have ANYTHING to say about ANYTHING or are you just arguing about NOTHING? Bet your team lost too.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2010 at 3:17PM
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kwoods(Cold z7 Long Is)

"Man you guys will argue over ANYTHING!"

That's just not true! I would never argue over anything, well maybe not never but rarely if ever. I'm far more likely to argue over nothing.

"do you think anyone hungers for "facile wisdom", it being an oxymoron"

Yes, I do. People want to deceive themselves into believing they're wise or can attain wisdom without having to do the work. Selling shortcuts to wisdom, happens all the time organized religion being the most obvious example.

Being a pragmatic absurdist it's my belief that people hunger for oxymorons more than they do most things.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2010 at 3:20PM
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bill_vincent(Central Maine)

Well, then, they've come to the right forum!! Oxymorons along with alot of OTHER kinds, too!!

:-)

(on BOTH sides!)

    Bookmark   February 8, 2010 at 5:04PM
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