I have a seed pod on my desert rose!!!

yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)August 4, 2011

Never had one before. I read that I need to wire it shut or encase it in pantyhose to prevent the seeds from flying away. The seed pod is only about 1 week old. How long before it is ripe?

I think this one self-pollinated since it is not by any other desert roses. Anyone else have a seed pod on their desert rose?

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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Supposedly it's almost impossible for them to self pollinate. Do you have any others nearby?

I crossed two plants two years ago and the plant I crossed has produced pods on its own since then. Then this year to my surprise an adjacent plant started throwing off pods :-) You can cover the pods with a stocking but I find it easier to just watch them and when you see the first little bit of midline pod splitting cut them off and bring them inside to open, but be careful NOT to leave them somewhere where an AC vent is blowing or they'll be all over your house.

Here's my old link when I learned how to cross them.

And finally, a booty picture from last year.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 4, 2011 at 6:15PM
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ladywingr(9b/10a)

Thanks for the pics Tom. I also have my first seed pod this year (new plant - the ten year old and five year old have never had pods).

Good to know what's inside.

Did you have any luck when you planted them?

Terri

    Bookmark   August 4, 2011 at 7:34PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Did you have any luck when you planted them?

If you're talking about the germination rate of the seeds it was 70-80%, I got so tired of giving babies away I quit growing them and gave away tons of seeds at Silvia's and Lori's last swaps, and to Sally and others that had an interest, and still have a hundred seeds left from last year. Judging from these pods that are not opened yet I'd say I'll have another 300-400 seeds this year if anyone wants to try a few.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 4, 2011 at 7:46PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

Tom - my seed pod is red. Does that mean it is getting ripe? I swear I didn't notice it until a week ago, but maybe it has been there longer?

The desert rose was not near another one but there are 2 others out back, just not close to each other. The one was grown from cuttings from the same parent as the one with the seed pod. Could that one have pollinated it? They are identical plants.

There is another one that is a different plant that is quite a bit farther away from the one with the seed pod.

Thanks for the pics and the link!

    Bookmark   August 4, 2011 at 7:48PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Mine do turn more reddish as they get closer to opening but can still take quite a while to open.

Physiologically they're not supposed to be able to self pollinate. My guess is that a butterfly or moth crossed them.

Don't be surprised if the first few pods only have a few seeds in them, if you get a lot be happy.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 5, 2011 at 7:30AM
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stuartwanda(N. Stuart)

I've heard that they are in the plumeria family? On a plumeria it take about 9 months for the seed pod to develop. Have fun with your new babies!

    Bookmark   August 5, 2011 at 7:44AM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

I just wrapped mine with wire in case I am not around when the pods split. I have other desert roses out front that have beautiful flowers and I would like to graft scions from them onto a seedling. I was planning on buying a seedling for this purpose but now I don't have to.

What did the flowers look like on your seedlings? Any nice ones? The problem I have had when I have purchased seedlings is that the flowers are inferior to the named varieties grown from cuttings or grafted onto seedlings.

I will keep you posted on my progress!

    Bookmark   August 5, 2011 at 9:08AM
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saldut

Just want to report that the seeds Tom gave me are up and doing well, almost ready to pot-out into regular pots and get from under the light.... Thanks again Tom, sally

    Bookmark   August 5, 2011 at 1:54PM
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zoo-katie(FL10)

Tom what varieties are you growing I used to have 10 but lost 7 last winter (my fault should have protected them better) I have 'sun of star' 'black warrior' and 'apollo' oh and the common one. Do you know any good place to get seeds of uncommon ones?

Katie

    Bookmark   August 6, 2011 at 12:51PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

My pleasure Sally, enjoy.

Katie, mine are all NOIDs, I don't even know what the flowers are going to look like since I crossed a red and pink...I've only kept a dozen for myself and they are only 5-6" and have not produced flowers yet. Seems there was some place out west that was reputable, but I don't remember the name, someone over on the Cacti & Succulents forum would be able to tell you.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 6, 2011 at 2:20PM
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zoo-katie(FL10)

Thanks Tom I did post over there I cant remember what star of sun was to look like but apollo is white and black warrior a deep red too small to bloom yet if I ever get pods I will send you some seeds. I would also love to get some of the doubles I just love these plants and really want to get a collection growing, sick about losing the others.

Katie

    Bookmark   August 6, 2011 at 3:36PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Katie, in my experience adenium and plumeria can be fickle, I've learned the hard way that exotics frequently bite to bullet quickly in our environment, best to grow what you see thriving in the neighborhood ;-)

I was busy this weekend potting up tomatoes, making veggie ID tags and scrubbing buckets getting ready for the September veggie set, almost missed these pods opening today...in two or three hours their wings will open and if I'm not careful they'll be all over the house :-)

Tom

    Bookmark   August 7, 2011 at 5:50PM
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zoo-katie(FL10)

Nice will be interesting to see your eventual flowers

Katie

    Bookmark   August 8, 2011 at 10:42PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Anybody want to try some seeds, I'll pull the wings off and mail them to you in a regular envelop. They're very easy to germinate, just press them into the soil and dust over so you barely can't see them. Then in 7-10 days you'll have babies....Then keep them in a well drained soil in the shade while young and they will thrive!

Tom

    Bookmark   August 9, 2011 at 5:24PM
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Johnjohnsmom1_yahoo_com

I would love some seeds if you have any left. I have a bit of a addiction to the " bonsi" type plants.

    Bookmark   August 11, 2011 at 4:46PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Hi Tanya, CYE.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 11, 2011 at 5:28PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

thanks for the pics, tom. I thought my seed pod was rotting, but now looking at your pics, I realize it is just maturing. Can't wait to get my little babies out!

    Bookmark   September 2, 2011 at 12:17PM
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saldut

Well Tom, sad to say, but the 8 little plants that I thought were doing so well have succumbed to root-rot, they were out on the porch and the rain blew in and I didn't notice until too late, I've pulled them back to try to dry them out, but the caudexs are soft and I don't have much hope for them now....... I've started 6 more of the seeds you gave me at the Swap, and hope they do better., it is the end of what you gave me..... if you do have any seeds left I'd love to have some more, especially if they are a different color ? I'm glad to swap you for stuff from the garden, how abt. some sweet-'taters ? I'm over-run w/sweets..... LOL.... sally

    Bookmark   September 2, 2011 at 4:53PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Hi Sally, I only have a few hundred seeds left ;-), tell me how many you want and I'll pull the wings off them and mail them to you. These babies do well outside after germination, but sheltered from too much sun or too much water while small, which is about the first five years.

Tom

    Bookmark   September 2, 2011 at 7:03PM
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CorpsmanCooper(FL8b)

I would love to try my hand at desert rose if you have any left Tom! Let me know!

    Bookmark   September 3, 2011 at 11:14PM
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teka2rjleffel(z10FL)

I'd love some too Tom. Is this the only way to propagate the desert rose. Can it also be done by cuttings?
Thanks
Nancy

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 12:45PM
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saldut

Just want to tell you-all, the 6 seeds I planted 8-25 are all up !! how about that !! I'll plant any that Tom sends and take them to the next Swap.... someone asked abt. where to get them, there is a Grower on the east coast sells them on-line, he has 25-30 rare varieties he gets from the Orient and they are doubles and yellows, etc, quite a selection, but he charges $25. for 2 (two) seeds !!! sally

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 4:59PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Hi Folks,

I have plenty, just tell me how many you want, 20 or 30, and provide your mailing info...My Page.

Tom

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 7:04PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

I'd love some too Tom. Is this the only way to propagate the desert rose. Can it also be done by cuttings?

Sorry I didn't respond Nancy, glazed over your question. They are easy to grow from cuttings but won't have a nice fat caudex, that old bonsai looking FAT trunk, which at the very least takes a minimum of 7-8 years to develop, but I think is worth it....

Tom

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 7:15PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

The nice thing about propagating from cuttings is the flowers - you will get the same flower as the parent. When you grow from seed, unless the flower self-pollinated, which is very rare, you will have a cross and given the genetic diversity of adenium obesum, the flowers are unlikely to look like the parents and are usually inferior to the named varieties.

My desert rose with the seed pod on it was grown from a cutting. There are only 2 desert roses near it, although not that near, and one was grown from a cutting of the same parent.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 9:21PM
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gardencraze(9b Groveland FL.)

Hey Tom,I would love to try some of those seeds What do you need for postage or trade??
send me an email so I can get postage out to ya.
Thanx

    Bookmark   September 6, 2011 at 10:21PM
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LocoGuy

Not sure, but i think i have a seedpod growing. I dont have any other plants. how long does it take for the pod to fully mature?

    Bookmark   June 17, 2012 at 9:31PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

yep, that's a seed pod. I will have to search to see how long it took mine to mature.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2012 at 3:01PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

First bloom. She is beautiful!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2012 at 3:05PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

Here is a link to my other thread if anyone wants a time frame for how long this took me.

Here is a link that might be useful: My Other Thread

    Bookmark   September 15, 2012 at 3:10PM
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nessz79_10a

I just bought my first desert rose plant from a local nursery in late July. None of their plants had blooms on them when I bought mine and mine still doesn't have any. When can I expect blooms?

I have it in a pot on my deck in soil made for cactus, succulents, and other plants needed good drainage. It's in full sun until about 5 in the afternoon.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2012 at 3:40PM
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yumtomatoes(10a/FLA)

I grew that one from seed, from my other thread it was a seedling mid-October so less than a year old mine bloomed.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2012 at 3:54PM
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delight907

The desert rose is new to me.. I have seed pods coming up on mine and there is no other plants around.. Will they flower when I plant the seeds?

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 6:12PM
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delight907

What am I doing wrong ..my leaves are turning yellow with browning tips ! Help ...

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 6:19PM
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ilovetogrow z9 Jax Florida

Delight there is an Adenium Forum on Garden Web. Best help known.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2013 at 6:45PM
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love_the_yard(z9A Jax FL)

Delight907, welcome to GardenWeb!

Yes, Ilovetogrow, is right - the Adenium Forum (Desert Rose Forum) is a fairly new forum - and a very, very active one with lots of helpful, experienced adenium lovers. I put a link to it below to help you. I know things can be confusing when you are new. :)

Carol in Jacksonville

Here is a link that might be useful: Adenium Forum

    Bookmark   July 9, 2013 at 7:35PM
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sandnsea(9)

I have 2 seed pods on my desert rose and I have no others in my yard or neighborhood. This is its second winter with me and the only one I have been able to keep alive! I am so happy.....Thank you for showing pictures of what I can expect from the seeds. looking forward with anticipation to see if I can get her seeds to grow.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2013 at 7:45PM
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popke(10 Seminole, FL)

I have a bunch of seed pods on mine and they have been there for a while. One of them looks like the pod is starting to die. Is this normal?

    Bookmark   November 9, 2013 at 11:43PM
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sandnsea(9)

Popke
Pictures help to determine the issue but I think the sequence is green, reddish, brownish they pop and the seeds are inside there is an adenium forum on GW look above for the link on another post.

    Bookmark   November 10, 2013 at 9:31PM
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popke(10 Seminole, FL)

Thank you sandnsea! I read around and that is what made me think this one didn't look right. :)

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 8:02PM
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LindaK64

I have a ton a seed pod being produced on multiple desert rose. When do I cut them off to obtain the seeds?? I'd love to share, just need the knowledge in when to remove. I have too many desert rose and too many pods! But would also love to give it a try to produce a few more!

    Bookmark   August 19, 2014 at 5:52PM
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Grandy4(9-10 FL)

tomncath---if you have any left I would like to have some seeds, love to try new things. Give me a shout at broncograndy@verizon.net with info on what you might want for trade, I have some plumeria seeds if your into to them.

Or anyone else that might want some plumeria seeds.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2014 at 2:25PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

Only two pods this year and they aborted early, only 7 seeds which are already gone. You'll have to get some from Linda.

Linda, when the color is washed out the pods are getting ready to split open. Cut them and take inside and put in a paper sack. If you don't get them before they split the wings will open and they will all be gone before you know it. Alternatively, cover them outside with old knee-highs and tie them off until they open, then bring them in and pull the wings off once the wings open, watch out for AC drafts or they will be all over your house at the blink of an eye. The seeds are most viable when planted within a few weeks. BARELY cover with your potting mix, I mean BARELY, almost not covered at all or they won't germinate well.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 24, 2014 at 6:34PM
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sthomason

How to I get them to grow. Help please.

    Bookmark   November 24, 2014 at 8:33PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

I planted them years ago when I worked in a nursery. We just used regular potting soil in a tray. Don't plant them very deep. Only lightly cover them with soil. Water them so they don't dry out. We kept them in total shade. I don't think that is necessary. Maybe someone else will answer. Plant them when the weather is warm. 80 degrees or higher, IMO.

    Bookmark   November 24, 2014 at 8:41PM
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jmrmichelle7

Hello! I am new here, and found this forum by a google search. Ive had a desert rose for about 3 years. It had never bloomed until last year, I set it outside during the summer, and it flourished!! Bloomed its heart out ... and then grew those seed pods, which I had NO idea what they were!! Then I woke up one morning, and they had exploded all over the kitchen!! How do I care for the seed pods? I have them all in a ziplock bag at the moment? Does anyone want some? Here are a couple of pics of my plant from back in the summer ... thanks for any responses!!

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 9:53AM
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