What's up with this Blue Ivory? Mottled...

funnthsun z7A - Southern VAApril 16, 2014

Can I get a quick opinion here? Normal or no? Will post more later. ..

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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

frost or cold damage???

i would not use the word mottled ... it means something else in hosta.. of which i dont recall .. at this moment ...

ken

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 12:13PM
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josephines123 z5 ON Canada

No, not normal, to answer your question. Don't know but my heart just sank when I saw your pic. Not all leaves are affected though from what I can see. Here's hoping it will continue to produce more leaves that ARE normal in appearance. Luck!

Blue Ivory is a gorgeous-coloured hosta.

Jo

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 12:23PM
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bkay2000

Looks like cold damage to me. My Birchwood Parky's Gold has some of that. It looked perfect a week ago, but developed this in the last couple of days. The damage was 3 weeks ago or so.

bk

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 12:29PM
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Babka(9b NorCal)

RELAX. That is "misting", and Blue Ivory does that on so does Great Escape and so does an occasional leaf of El Nino. It is normal.

-Babka

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 2:37PM
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josephines123 z5 ON Canada

Babka... Do you think it is zone related? The misting? The BI's up here in the north (at least the one in my daughter's garden) has never displayed that look - yet. Good to know though ...and good to relax :-)

This post was edited by josephines67 on Wed, Apr 16, 14 at 16:10

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 4:09PM
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Steve Massachusetts Zone 5b

I've seen Blue Ivory do that before, also. The first year I had mine it did that a lot and I was disappointed with the plant. But last year it was fine. I don't know if it's a maturation issue or an issue with too much sun. Mine's in a bit of afternoon sun. We'll see what happens this year. I may end up putting it in more shade.

Steve

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 4:24PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i though misting was a term used for a transitory event.. in the hosta world ..

isnt there a dictionary of sorts in the hosta library home page ...

let me know if it disappears as the leaf matures.. and that will answer the question ....

ken

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 4:30PM
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Babka(9b NorCal)

Please, oh, please forgive me for using an unscientific term "misting". Sure looks like someone misted them to me.

At the HL, I found in the description for Blue Ivory the term a green "blush" in the margins.

Now I'm blushing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you wish to call it, I have it occasionally on El Nino, Blue Ivory and Great Escape. I have it on some of their leaves right now. I've had El Nino since 2003 so it isn't a question of maturity, and here it is today, so it isn't a question of Summer heat or sun for me. Just the variation in the leaves.

-Babka

Wait! There's more...

The HL data base for Allegan Fog uses the term "misted" and in that hosta it is not transient, so I haven't gone completely bannanas.

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to Allegan Fog description

This post was edited by Babka on Wed, Apr 16, 14 at 17:53

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 5:42PM
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funnthsun z7A - Southern VA

Well, that is comforting! I thought it was freeze damage, too, b/c of the cold snap last night, but I didn't inspect this guy very closely before that, so wasn't sure. Glad to hear that it isn't cold damage, b/c I was thinking that sure is pretty to be damage.

The fact that it would have been the only hosta that was damaged last night further supports the normal theory instead of cold damage.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 5:53PM
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josephines123 z5 ON Canada

You know what it all spells to me? B E A U T Y - those colours are s o o o
relaxing and peaceful.

I don't have one of those, y e t! :-)

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 7:23PM
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bkay2000

I think it's common and probably cold damage. It seems that I've seen it many times. I'll look through my photos and see if I have any evidence to support that theory.

bk

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 11:15PM
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Babka(9b NorCal)

I haven't had any cold damage this year here. Bkay, the damage in your photo is different from the OP. Yours has slight tissue damage. I get that sometimes from cool temp as they are emerging. Emerald Ruff Cut gets it very easily. The OP has green mist/blush. Do you have Blue Ivory, El Nino, or Great Escape? The mist/blush is in the area of the white margin.

-Babka

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 1:34AM
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jadie88(7 MD)

Same look on my young Blue Ivory last year! Weighing in on the terminology...I called it "spray painted!"

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 6:40AM
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funnthsun z7A - Southern VA

Jadie...I wouldn't use spray painted, I think that is a term for something else...Air Brushed would be the proper reference here...with a large A...AND I WILL YELL...A LARGE B!!!...10,000 lashes!

Just poking some fun, Ken, please don't kill me, I have a family--a hubby and two kids that REALLY need me...That's it, witness protection it is...

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 8:58AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

see link ...

i dont care what words you guys use ...

but words do mean things.. and it really does further knowledge when we all use the right term ...

the only real issue is.. who knows the right term ... so i suggested a source of words ...

i dont care if you use the list or not ... and i dont care if you use the right term ... and if you reread my comment.. i wasnt even sure if what i suggested was correct ... i was using the Socratic method of teaching ... as in at this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

and this sounds a lot crabbier than i mean it.. so dont read anything into it ....

have a great day ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 9:20AM
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bkay2000

No Babka, that's one I lost over the winter. It was just a liner, though. Blue and White is probably not a good choice for me, anyway.

Maybe you are right. It may be different.

bk

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 9:44AM
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jadie88(7 MD)

funn, you made my day...ha!

ken, we are all grateful and happy to play students to your teacher, but just remember that students DO reserve the right to grumble about the prof from time to time. All part of the fun! ;-)

    Bookmark   April 17, 2014 at 10:12AM
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Moccasin(z9aMobileAL)

I'm going into witness protection along with Funn here....and taking my ~400+ hosta with me.

Of course words mean things, but I find "heart shaped leaves" written all over official hosta descriptions, and not the legit term whatever it is....we need discipline, I tell you! And a good semester at least at Miss Choate's Finishing School....which is where my DH threatens to send me when I use words learned as a sailor........(ahem). Words do mean specific things.

So what was the question again?

What an unruly (another good hosta word) bunch we are!

    Bookmark   April 18, 2014 at 4:44PM
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josephines123 z5 ON Canada

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that was quite the eye-hand coordination exercise! Nearly blinded me, crikey feckeled hosta! Mocc, that takes the cake...between you and Bragu - Jadie...Funn...we're all gonna git detentions! Then whose gonna tend to them hosta, huh?

    Bookmark   April 18, 2014 at 6:19PM
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miketropic

Mine has nearly leafed out and I find it has some lower leaves with the "mist" on it as well. glad to know its nothing to be concerned with.

    Bookmark   April 18, 2014 at 7:01PM
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Pieter zone 7/8 B.C.

OK, don't ask me where, but I recall reading that this phenom was stress related....I'm talking 'bout the greening-up of course....

Pieter

    Bookmark   April 18, 2014 at 9:52PM
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