Hostas and ground cover

kept(6)April 13, 2007

Hi

How would this work. I have an area with a beautiful lime green ground cover and I would like to grow hostas there also but ofcourse the ground cover will choke them out. How would it work if I placed the hostas in large clay pots and buried them in the ground so that just an inch of the pot is above ground? The ground cover will grow around the pots.

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maryann_____chgo(5)

Clay pots will crack in winter, use large plastic nursery pots instead. If the ground cover is aggresive, you can keep it pulled away from the containers. Otherwise it should work so plant away.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 12:10AM
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daisy_me(Z6b IL)

What type of groundcover? I would say it depends on that as not all groundcovers are so aggressive.

Sweet Woodruff fills in around hostas very nicely, and is not a garden thug, very easy to pull out if it goes somewhere you don't want and has never choked a single hosta in my garden. :-)

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 11:07AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

clay pots sticking out of the ground will also wick all moisture out of the soil .. and hosta wont like that ...

if you put babes out in the groundcover.. they will probably disappear ...

if you put foo foo fancy hosta.. same... try undulatas ...

if you grow babes somewhere else... and move a BIG plant into the GC .. then they will probably flourish .. with a little management of the GC ...

BUT ... and there always is one .... i will qualify all answers on ID'ing the actual GC .... what is it??

ken

PS: GC is a great place for slugs to hide ....

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 1:10PM
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kept(6)

Thanks everyone for thr response. I wish I could tell you what the ground cover is called. It was given to me by a friend who uses it for baskets. We are in zone 5/6 and it is not super pretty in the winter but it gets through and greens up very early. Like I said it is lime or bright yellow green. I would rip it out for the Hostas but it is just to beautiful. OK, all you hosta lovers I am going to try the clay pot as an experiment only because I did it when the weather was warm and the hostas were coming up. If that doesn't work I will find something else to circle them with.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 5:53PM
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whip1 Zone 5 NE Ohio

I have hosta in vinca, stone crop, bishop's weed, and lamium, and i've never had a problem with the ground cover slowing the Hosta. The hosta I planted weren't small,and they are medium to large variety.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 12:15AM
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ademink(z5a-5b Indianapolis)

I have them thriving in English Ivy, vinca minor, CREEPING CHARLIE (DIE SUCKER), poison ivy...you name it. LOL

I completely agree w/ Ken that clay pots are not a good idea from a moisture perspective.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 12:21AM
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yardmom

Does it have little roundish leaves and grows in runners, rooting along the way? If so, I have it too, and I have my mini hostas planted in around it with no problem (though I do keep the GC pulled back from the minis) I think full size hostas would be just fine. Wish I could remember the name....

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 7:08AM
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kim_dirtdigger(IN 5b)

Sounds like Creeping Jenny. If so, it is very shallow-rooted and would be easy to control by just keeping it pulled away from your hosta.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 8:45AM
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esox48(4/MN)

Heck, I intentionally plant ground covers around the hosta to help cover the ground. They don't have any effect on the hosta. I have even planted hosta in wild violets, which is probably the toughest ground cover there is. It outcompetes Creeping Charlie.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 9:29AM
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ademink(z5a-5b Indianapolis)

At least wild violets are pretty and don't smell like cat pee. LOL I love violets...hate the CC but can't get rid of it!!!

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 9:40AM
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hostanana(6MA)

The plant you are talking about is Lysimachia nummularia 'Aurea', which is the gold form of Moneywort, or Creeping Jenny. I have some under a weeping Japanese Maple for contrast, but rip out a lot in the spring to keep it in one spot. It is invasive, not just aggressive, but it would be tempting to see it under 'Potomac Pride' or 'Edge of Night', or even some of the gold/green variegated hostas.The bigger, the better.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 12:07PM
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esox48(4/MN)

I love Creeping Jenny and buy it in bunches to plant around the hostas. Wouldn't dream of ripping out a single leaf even right on top of the hosta.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 4:47PM
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kept(6)

OK Y'all I guess I've got Creeping Jenny. OOH that didn't sound right! This will be an experiment. If I see the Hostas waining because of the pots I will put them back in the ground. I know how much they like to stay watered.
Thanks a bunch!

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 9:00PM
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hostasformez4(4/5)

Hostanana,

After seeing your picture of your Japanese Maple I bought the gold creeping jenny and even went so far as the take it out of the containers it was planted in so it wouldn't die over the winter and planted it in the ground! It all make it! I just discovered the green kind in a my sun
perennials so will transplant that too!

Connie

    Bookmark   April 16, 2007 at 7:53AM
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greenguy(Zone 5 OH)

This is the only pic i could find of creeping jenny and it is not very clear

it is the yellow plant up front

from 05

    Bookmark   April 16, 2007 at 8:51AM
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i_dig_it(z5a - Illinois)

kept, if you are going to go through the trouble of planting pots in the ground, go to a *mart store and buy a couple of cheap plastic pots. They have them for around $1. Then you don't have to worry about the water issue as with clay pots.

JMO, but I'd rather do it right the first time instead of waiting to see if the hostas decline.

Good Luck whatever you decide.

Janet

    Bookmark   April 16, 2007 at 12:30PM
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kept(6)

Janet,
Yes, I agree with you but when I posted the question I had the clay pots in the ground for about 3 weeks. It was a hindsight question. If I see the hostas are not doing well I will rescue them. Sounds like most everyone feels they will not do well. OOOPPPS!

    Bookmark   April 18, 2007 at 9:26PM
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sassafrass_2006

GreenGuy
What a beautiful pond, the creeping jenny is an eye catcher......Love that fire hydrant.

    Bookmark   April 18, 2007 at 10:51PM
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caliloo(z6/7)

Great photo!

I have creeping jenny in a pot with a Gold standard as we speak. I suspected the GS might have HVX so I dodn't want to plant it out and I thought the CJ would set it off nicely.

To be honest, I think it would look better under a darker hosta, but it wasn't awful. I will put some under my ventricosa to see how that works this year.

Alexa

    Bookmark   April 19, 2007 at 8:09AM
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