Raspberry x Blacberry hybrids

boizeau(7a)September 14, 2009

Has anyone had good luck trying to cross Blackberry and Raspberry? Heard you can do it if the Raspberry is 4n.

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farmfreedom

Yes you can cross: raspberries , blackberries , mulberries , wineberries ,dewberries , tayberries , boisenberries ,loganberries , salmonberries ,black caps, can all crossbreed .
There is even a "white blackberry" developed by Luther Burbank
The Nothernmost most cold resistant fruits in the world are berries. We should be using the most cold resistant fruits in the world to extend the range of all berries that they can crossbreed with .

    Bookmark   December 15, 2009 at 2:31PM
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henry_kuska

See:

http://www.rosehybridizers.org/forum/message.php?topid=2986

for additional "possibilities".

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   December 17, 2009 at 2:34PM
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tugbrethil

Wait a minute, farmfreedom! All of the brambles (blackberries, raspberries, etc.) are members of the rose family (Rosaceae), while mulberries are members of the Moraceae, along with figs and the rare succulent Dorstenia. There is virtually no structural similarity between the families: are you sure that mulberries and blackberries will hybridize?

Kevin : )

    Bookmark   January 16, 2010 at 1:27AM
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farmfreedom

I believe if you look up the "TAY berry " or the "Logan berry " you will find that that is the cross breed. Also If this was not true How Did Luther Burbank develop the " White Blackberry " . He is also said to Have crossed Strawberries and Blackberries which I would like to see if anyone has a picture .
The Nothernmost most cold resistant fruits in the world are berries. We should be using the most cold resistant fruits in the world to extend the range of all berries that they can crossbreed with .

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 4:30PM
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tugbrethil

I'd like to see a strawberry/blackberry hybrid myself! At least they are in the same family.

Tayberries and loganberries are various hybrids of blackberries and raspberries, not either of those with mulberries. BTW, another member of the Moraceae that I forgot is the hedge apple, or Osage orange.

Kevin : )

    Bookmark   February 5, 2010 at 11:10PM
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farmfreedom

I stand corrected Tayberries and loganberries and boysenberries are considered "dew berries" and they are related to rasberries. they belong to the genus "Rubus"

    Bookmark   February 6, 2010 at 4:11PM
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farmfreedom

It appears the mulberries only looks like raspberries . the the mulberry family includes : breadfruit,hop,hemp (cannabis),fig and rubber plants, hedge apple, or Osage orange. and the paper mulberry (Broussonetia ).

Now what did Luther Burbank use to breed the "white blackberry"

    Bookmark   February 8, 2010 at 2:41PM
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knock_on_wood

is it possible that if you mixed a common edible fruit with one with bad side effects it may be poisonous?

    Bookmark   February 9, 2010 at 8:05PM
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farmfreedom

Yes you can ! This was done with potatoes a while back to breed a pest resistant strain but they were poisonous to people.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2010 at 1:18PM
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knock_on_wood

hmm.... what about 2 edible plants? could they create a poison somehow?

    Bookmark   February 11, 2010 at 5:21PM
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farmfreedom

I suppose if you crossed an almond (which is grown for its seed ) and an apricot (which is grown for its fruit ) and tried to eat the seed you might have a problem if you were sensitive and ate enough of them . Apricot pits are high in laetrile ( Prussic acid ) .

    Bookmark   February 12, 2010 at 11:06AM
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tugbrethil

From a book I read--decades ago--about Luther Burbank, he used a yellow form of raspberry, and did multiple F2 and back crosses with blackberries to get the white color and fix it in a blackberry-type fruit. Reportedly, it tastes great, though I have never tried to grow it myself.

On the poisonous edible plant front, I hear that a company tried to breed celery for insect resistance, using normal selective breeding, not genetic modification. They succeeded, but in the process of multiplying it up, they discovered that many of the field workers were having poison-ivy-like reactions to it! "They dug, and they burned, and they dug, and they burned...." I never was in love with celery, but that's ridiculous.

Kevin : ])

    Bookmark   February 28, 2010 at 11:37PM
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keking(z6 TN)

Burbank's White Blackberry is truly white. I saw the plant with fruit at the Burbank house in Santa Rosa.
http://www.bulbnrose.org/Heredity/Burbank/WhiteBlackberry/WhiteBlackberry.html

The Raspberry x Strawberry hybrid was highly interesting, but sterile.
http://www.bulbnrose.org/Heredity/Burbank/Burbank_raspXstraw.html

Karl

Here is a link that might be useful: CybeRose & Bulbs

    Bookmark   May 21, 2010 at 7:33AM
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