Scum in DWC systems

RoboGeekFebruary 26, 2012

Interesting issue.. I have one DWC (pepper) that has grown some kind of white scum over the airstone and root system. Its the same as all the other setups I have, and uses the same nutrients. pH is at 5.5 and nutrients are at about 1000ppm. Nute temps are around 70f.

Its light tight and is the only one with this problem. I cleaned the pot out with bleach, soaked the air stone in it too, and flushed the net pot out with water till there was no more scum on anything.

I treated it with H2O2 and its been fine ever since, but I'm curious if anyone has any ideas what caused it?

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TheMasterGardener1(5B)

"I treated it with H2O2 and its been fine ever since, but I'm curious if anyone has any ideas what caused it?"

I can not explain the magic of hydrogen peroxide either. Keep running it with your system at all times. There is hygrozyme too, I have used it and it works very well!!!!

    Bookmark   February 26, 2012 at 10:36PM
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georgeiii

I think what your looking at is the bacteria that forms soap scum. I think your water is to blame.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 3:41PM
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homehydro

Why is the water to blame?

True the problem is in the water. But why do you think that's where it originated from? The post didn't even say what the water source was. Contaminates could enter the water from many sources. If so, then changing the water source wont do a thing to help.

I also have a question that may be somewhat obvious, but is the "white scum" soft like mold, or hard calcium/lime buildup?

    Bookmark   March 3, 2012 at 5:46AM
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georgeiii

Have your water tested to see about iron in your water. The iron can come from your water system as well. Check out your bath room for scum on the walls.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2012 at 12:17PM
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homehydro

First thing on my mind is don't waist money on having a water test done. If you have many systems, but only one with the problem (as you stated), it's not the water source. Second thing on my mind is three points really. First every bathroom shower/tub/sink has scum from soap (and in my case large amounts of conditioner) buildup if you don't regularly clean it. Second is that most hard scum is calcium/lime buildup and white in color (not iron). Third is high amounts of iron will result in red rust looking stains, we have high amounts of iron in our water, and even though we have a water softener you still sometimes see the rust stains in the toilet. But for us the rust stains are more prevalent outside, where that water dosen't go through the water softener.

Bottom line is if you are using the same nutrients etc., and have many systems as you stated, you would be seeing the same problem in all of them using the same water source. I wouldn't waist money on unnecessary lab testing. If large amounts of iron were somehow feeding a microorganism (and possible), it would still be in all your systems as well.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2012 at 4:24AM
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RoboGeek

water is reverse osmosis filtered and ionized. The tomato is a clone that was cloned all alone.Only thing I can think of is something may have happened in the cloner.

The scum is a thick, soft, congealed goo. It formed in the net pot first (hence my bad clone theory) and mostly on the bottom. It takes on the color of the nutes but seems to be white. I had a secondary infection on it again, flushed the (net)pot with running water. No sign of anything in the nutrient solution, but I changed it. New roots are growing above the scum accumulation and the H2O2 foams like crazy when it contacts it. Its only in one pot with one plant using the same water and nutrients all the others are

    Bookmark   March 6, 2012 at 12:43PM
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TheMasterGardener1(5B)

I am going to let you in on a pro hint, I know, I know ;)

You are for sure running into an issue with too much fertilizer, not right water temp, ect...
Well, lets face it we all can not keep up on that.

Use a bar of soap in the reservoir. It really will work. If your system is small then a small cube.

    Bookmark   March 6, 2012 at 10:07PM
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artwk(5)

Sounds like pythium, usually caused by high res temps/lack of oxygen.

bar of soap? I've never heard of that.

    Bookmark   March 7, 2012 at 3:09AM
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grizzman

do you use ivory so it will float, or should you use something that sinks?

    Bookmark   March 7, 2012 at 3:22PM
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