No more US mail service on Saturdays

esh_gaFebruary 6, 2013

I hope it helps them stay afloat. I can live without it.

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labrea_gw

I can certainly live without all the requests for donations which is about 80% of my mail. 5% statements, 15% gardening porn!

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:45AM
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chase_gw

I can't recall ever having Saturday mail delivery . Heck, its been years and years since we have had door to door delivery to any new development. Canada Post stations post boxes at various locations in a neighborhood and you go pick up your own.

Somehow we have managed the hardship.....but Canadians are a hardy lot...... :-)

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:49AM
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Pidge

Saturday deliveries here are generally handled by part-timers or employees lower on the totem pole than the regulars. So they leave the heavy stuff for the regulars anyway. However, I like mail delivery every day and will miss the Saturday circulars and other nifty junk.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:54AM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

Wow. That's a brilliant idea and 10 years too late.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:59AM
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fancifowl(5Pa)

If it weren't for junk mail, it could be twice a week delivery.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 11:00AM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

and I won't have to listen to my mail lady complain about working on Saturday.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 12:05PM
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rob333

I cannot live without it! This totally sucks. My post office is so far from my office, if I get anything certified, I will have to take off of work to go pick it up. And, this post office is packed every Saturday. They do passports and the line for that alone is out the door. So it's not so daggone peachy for everyone. They should lose something else, not this ability. Cut the hours on Saturday would even be fine. But nothing? It's gonna be heck!

:(

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 12:14PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

The Auto Title Bureau does 90% of passports here.

What mail do you get on Saturday that can't wait until Monday?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 12:39PM
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jillinnj

brushworks: What mail do you get on Saturday that can't wait until Monday?

rob: My post office is so far from my office, if I get anything certified, I will have to take off of work to go pick it up.

Pretty clear.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:01PM
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huachuma

From what I understand USPS offices that are currently open on Saturdays will remain open for the foreseeable future...

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:04PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Rob, delivery of first-class mail is being stopped on Saturdays.

It seems as if registered, certified, and express mail will continue to be delivered on Saturday as well as packages.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:09PM
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rob333

Missed that. Oh good. Whew.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:31PM
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kwoods(Cold z7 Long Is)

This kind of sucks actually. What it means to me is that Eric will no longer hang out on my porch on hot days during the summer and pass the time chatting and drinking lemonade... in fact, I probably won't see Eric at all anymore since he delivers while I'm at work.

I suppose if I really miss him I could send a rgistered letter to myslf fri morning.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:34PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I am not happy. We have been known to have such great service and because our Government has put them in the red is criminal.

I do not use the mail a lot because I pay all my bills electronically and most deliveries I use FedEx or UPS but there are so many that it is their only option if they live rural. It is a shame. The party that gets it support from those rural dwellers be the ones they will hurt with this drive to privatize the US Post Office

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:39PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

Well. There ya go!...

My post office is so far from my office, if I get anything certified, I will have to take off of work to go pick it up.

That doesn't make any sense at all since Certified Mail is delivered to me next day. Unless my mail lady is breaking the rules. All I do is leave the signature form in mail box.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 1:40PM
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denninmi(8a)

Ah, we all must have seen this coming. Perhaps a hardship for some, but most people will take it for the sign of the times it is, like the end of the Twinkie (which I believe is being resurrected, having been sold off in bankruptcy court).

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 2:02PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

That doesn't make any sense at all since Certified Mail is delivered to me next day. Unless my mail lady is breaking the rules. All I do is leave the signature form in mail box.

Yes she is breaking the rules. If you do not answer the door and they see you sign for the mail it is not official that the person received signed. What is the point of certified if you do not get a signature before you leave the mail?

But.....my mail man does the same thing but he knows me and knows I would not be home during the week (when I worked) and he knew I was out of town and would not be able to get the PO only on a Saturday. He also knew that the post office was so far away it would be a extra out of the way thing for me to do since I was only in town for 2 days a week.

It may have changed I have not received any certified mail in years. My company use to send us certified mail all the time since we were remote workers. Which was always a complaint since they knew they were sending us on the road and would not be home to sign for their certified mail.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 2:14PM
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elaineinnj

I guess we will get used to it in time. They closed our P.O. the begining of January.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 5:45PM
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jerzeegirl(9)

I won't be a big deal for me. I'd say that only 25% of our mail is the real thing. 75% is tree killing kwap!

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:05PM
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duluthinbloomz4

I won't miss a Saturday delivery - will just expect a fuller box of "tree killing kwap" on Monday.

Hope something works for the PO since it doesn't seem likely Congress will reconsider their short window retirement fund mandate.

I did beat the penny rise in postage; have enough "Forever" stamps to make them a will bequest. I do use the post office; do very little business of any kind on-line.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:17PM
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mrskjun(9)

We had to know this was coming. Have you tried to buy a box of stationary lately? Used to be you could get it anywhere. Much harder to find now. email instead of snail mail. Cheaper to send large pkgs either UPS or FedX.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:19PM
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chisue

It just feels like a further unraveling of society to me. The mail carrier knows all, sees all, on his daily rounds. Our current dog adored our old mailman; the others 'got some exercise'.

Maybe I can sign up for milk delivery.

The gorgeous, formal Post Office in the middle of our town is up for sale, to become -- perhaps -- a restaurant. Mail is handled out of a cement block structure on the far edge of town. I can drive into town in two minutes and will have a conversation with someone in line. The other place is ten minutes away; strictly in-and-out.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:32PM
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elvis

Our P.O. has been closing at 10:30 a.m. on Saturdays for years, and I rarely make it in time; won't miss it. The Post Office has always amazed me. It's magical the way one itty bitty stamp can carry my letter far away and pretty quickly. I love the U.S. mail.

But Forever stamps--what rocket scientist thought that one up?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:32PM
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jerzeegirl(9)

The greeting card people are going nuts.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:32PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

Yes she is breaking the rules.

Don't tell anybody. She leaves an attempted delivery ticket. I sign it, place in mailbox, she leaves the mail next day.

I get a lot of certified mail. Maybe that's why.

But, no matter what type of mail it is, it can always be a day later. Life goes on.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 7:42PM
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chase_gw

Folks , all it means is that what you got six days a week will now arrive in five. Can't wait to hear the whining when you are faced with the really tough budget cuts.......the elimination of Saturday delivery is a no brainer.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:18PM
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esh_ga

Twenty years from now we'll be saying "remember when we used to get mail on Saturday ..." Just like all the other "remember when" stories I tell my kids and young co-workers. I STILL remember when we didn't have email ....

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:52PM
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chase_gw

We didn't have email? Really?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 9:55PM
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jodik_gw

Looks like we're getting weekday morning hours cut a bit, but we're keeping most of the hours we had for Saturday. Small towns... they do their own thing, I guess.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 10:28PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

My kids don't know what email is. They have discarded it. All I get from them? Texts, tweets and FaceTime requests. :)

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 6:40AM
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brightonborn

They should have done this a long time ago.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 6:56AM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

Our Saturday mail consists of:

Mr. Tire
Ford Private Cash Offer
NTB
Credit Card offers

and the obnoxious ValPak, which I enjoy searching for the fine print exclusions. $30 off any purchase of $75 or more. Fineprint: you much qualify and agree to a Credit Card.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 7:59AM
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duluthinbloomz4

I suppose we should just think of this as another in the steps toward privatization of the postal service. Then we'll be nostalgic for the old system or at least what we have now.

Imagine huge increases for service, especially for rural delivery or to really remote locations. By law, the post office must deliver mail to everyone, regardless of location. FedEx and UPS currently pays the postal service to make deliveries in areas considered less profitable. What happens when private companies declare your area just too unprofitable for them and decides to kick UPS and FedEx subsidies to the curb too?

Don't Oregon and Washington state do a lot - if not all - of voting by mail?

Though I personally can live without Saturday mail and we didn't die when twice a day delivery was cut in 1950, but this isn't over by a long shot of some in Congress get their way.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 10:33AM
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hamiltongardener(CAN 6a)

Chase, you're thinking the same thing I am...lol. Like....so what?

BTW, I still get door to door mail delivery. I live in an urban and older section of the city.

When I was a kid, we lived in a farm town. There was no door to door delivery and everyone's mailing address was the same.

General Delivery
Small Town, Alberta
X0X 0X0

They sorted the mail by last name and everyone went to the post office counter and asked for their mail by their name.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 10:45AM
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david52 Zone 6

I suppose we should just think of this as another in the steps toward privatization of the postal service. Then we'll be nostalgic for the old system or at least what we have now.

Imagine huge increases for service, especially for rural delivery or to really remote locations. By law, the post office must deliver mail to everyone, regardless of location. FedEx and UPS currently pays the postal service to make deliveries in areas considered less profitable. What happens when private companies declare your area just too unprofitable for them and decides to kick UPS and FedEx subsidies to the curb too?

Thats exactly what this is - Fedex and UPA give an awful lot of money to congressmen who in turn strive to destroy the post office through budgeting rules.

At the link is an interesting piece on how the post office blew it by basing their revenue planning on 3rd class bulk mailings.

As for myself, living in a remote rural area, getting rid of saturday mail means that I'll only be able to watch one netflix a week instead of two. Used to be that I could watch one on the weekend, return it monday, get one back wednesday, send it off thursday, get one back saturday. And no, I can't get fast enough internet to stream.

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 11:18AM
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chase_gw

Both Canada Post and the legacy telephone company are mandated to provide basic service to rural and remote areas even if they are money losers, which they are.

Basic postal and telephone services are a necessity. Wonder when high speed will be considered a necessity .....which I believe it should be.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 11:53AM
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hamiltongardener(CAN 6a)

Both Canada Post and the legacy telephone company are mandated to provide basic service to rural and remote areas even if they are money losers, which they are.

Yes, they are. Especially in some areas... it's a lot different for a country like Canada than the US when it comes to the definition of "rural". "Rural" in the US mainland would be considered "lives on the outskirts of town" in most parts of Canada.

Imagine if the northern 2/3 of the land mass... say everything north of Oklahoma... was just as remote as Alaska, and then imagine the logistical nightmare AND the absolute necessity of providing services to those areas.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 12:07PM
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david52 Zone 6

Maybe 10 years ago, with a surprising coincidence, both FedEx and UPS decided to implement a remote address price adjustment onto their deliveries, as in doubling what it would cost to ship stuff here.

And so everybody just had the post office mail them things.

And so, in another coincidence that just boggles the mind, both FedEx and UPS dropped the surcharge.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 12:07PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

For some folks, walking out to the mailbox is what they look forward to, day after day.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 12:21PM
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chase_gw

If folk have trouble losing Saturday mail delivery then just wait until sequestration kicks in!!!!!

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 1:21PM
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patriciae_gw(07)

For those of you who dont want junk mail there is an easy answer-go to the Postal website and look up how to opt out-fill out the form and submit-no more junk mail-you do not get to chose some-it is all or nothing.

If you really sincerely believe you never get anything in the mail that is important(remembering that is how the IRS communicates with the citizenry) you simply take down your mail box. There is no law saying that you have to get mail service. You will not get USPS parcel delivery if you do this however.

I believe it is business customers who will raise the most heck about losing Saturday service-it is the mail and parcel pickup that is important to them not necessarily the delivery.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 2:13PM
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duluthinbloomz4

Throwing out junk mail takes... what, about three seconds out of my day?

But then there are the set-asides to go through the shredder; the credit card co. "checks" to write myself a loan and the credit card applications, etc. I'll often stockpile the shreds and incorporate them in my compost pile.

Other paper goes to keep the recyclers in business.

Someone, maybe Rachel Maddow, mentioned David's Netflix situation - they'll probably retool their schedules. So will everyone else have to do the same if dealing with time sensitive issues.

I just invision a private company deeming a neighborhood too dangerous or maybe even too remote for the type of delivery patrons previously enjoyed. Or they'll just eliminate more small town P.O's. Maybe that is an unwarranted fear.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 3:11PM
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esh_ga

For some folks, walking out to the mailbox is what they look forward to, day after day.

They obviously learned to live without Sundays and holidays. I think they can get used to living without Saturdays.

Think of all the savings in FUEL! And pollution.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 4:06PM
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patriciae_gw(07)

There is going to be no fuel savings if they deliver packages and Certified letters and so forth because who ever delivers those things will have to drive all the miles that the normal deliverer would do while they deliver the rest of the mail. My postal friends are trying to figure out how that is going to work. When they first proposed no delivery this was not part of the senario. It sounds like it is going to wreck havoc with the substitute Mail Carriers.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2013 at 1:49PM
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esh_ga

I saw something today that said the US Postal service delivered mail twice a day until 1950.

Is that right? Does anyone remember that?

    Bookmark   February 19, 2013 at 5:38PM
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Factotem

esh_ga wrote,

I saw something today that said the US Postal service delivered mail twice a day until 1950.
Is that right? Does anyone remember that?

Correct, generally twice a day to residential addresses until April 17, 1950, and as many as four time a day to businesses (multi-delivery continued to businesses continued, though tapered off, over ensuing decades). My dad told me that when he was a kid you could mail a letter in the morning and it would be delivered that same day within NYC.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2013 at 5:50PM
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david52 Zone 6

I thought it went on longer than that for businesses in downtown areas - I remember my Dad talking about that. But residential 2X stopped in 1950.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2013 at 5:51PM
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