A David & Goliath story?

ronalawn82(z9FL)February 18, 2013

"The highest court in the United States will hear arguments on Tuesday in the dispute, which started when soybean farmer Vernon Bowman bought and planted a mix of unmarked grain typically used for animal feed.color >"
Source.
I favor genetically modified crops because:
The same process occurs in nature; albeit more slowly.
It affords the potential opportunity to find remedies/cures for human ailments. e.g.
For an extended read follow the tale ofGolden Rice.
Can we argue the case here and see if the Supreme Court will agree with us?

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pnbrown

It's so specious and outrageous it hardly bears debate.

I predict the SC will go 5-4 in favor of Monsanto.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 1:48PM
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WxDano(5b-2a-6/7)

The same process occurs in nature; albeit more slowly.

No it doesn't.

I agree that the large multinational corporation will win at the USC. This is America.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 1:55PM
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RpR_(3-4)

Such cases have been lost in lower courts.
I hope the farmer wins but I doubt it.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:05PM
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ronalawn82(z9FL)

WxDano,
"No it doesn't." Does that mean that:-

  1. It does not occur? or
  2. It does occur but not more slowly?
    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:12PM
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david52_gw

He has an interesting argument. The contract with Monsanto says he can't save seeds and replant. He didn't. He went and bought 'commodity grain' from the coop silo and planted that. Which is not in any contract.

How was he supposed to know that the commodity grain, on its way to some processing plant - was GM?

Does that mean that Monsanto still controls what can happen to the crop after their seed has been planted, the crop grown and harvested? If thats the case, why can't they stipulate, say, that their seed has to grow soybeans that have to be sold to Cargill?

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:14PM
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WxDano(5b-2a-6/7)

@ ronalawn: it does not occur.

I guess if you measure in geologic time, after a quadrillion random mutations and 250 million years, it is possible for a plant to create a gene that would be, say, RR resistant and grow out in the wild and reproduce viable plants and have those plants spread their progeny and then become viable food plants for Homo sapiens, but I'd rather buy a lottery ticket for the better odds.

That is: this is utterly basic biology.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:18PM
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david52_gw

For soy to develop resistance to Round Up, ok.

But apply roundup to an entire ecosystem, and all kinds of resistance in all kinds of plant species develops. As one would expect.

Which brings up "super weeds" that now, in some places, require far heavier doses of Round up and mixtures with other herbicides.

Here is a link that might be useful: one of many articles on unintended, roundup resistant plants

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:33PM
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WxDano(5b-2a-6/7)

How was he supposed to know that the commodity grain, on its way to some processing plant - was GM?

Does that mean that Monsanto still controls what can happen to the crop after their seed has been planted, the crop grown and harvested?

This is why it is going to the USC. IIRC in Sask., a similar but different situation occurred where Monsanto won in court, and that was where GM pollen drifted over and the farmer used the pollinated plants' seed for the next season.

It is going to be very interesting indeed, and I wonder what kind of coverage it will get in the corporate media.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2013 at 3:41PM
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