The Mayocoba Bean story

ruthieg__tx(z8 TX)March 10, 2009

Have you heard of the controversy that evidently went on for quite some time. I was looking for a source to tell me if the Mayocoba was a climbing bean or a bush bean and ran across the story...actually lots and lots of stories...very interesting...

After reading through many of this documents I have come to believe that the Mayocoba,Enola, Peruvano etc etc are bush beans but it took a lot of digging into papers to find that info and in the mean time I learned a lot about the beans.

Here is a link that might be useful: The story

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Very Interesting Ruth! I find it sort of scary. That Procter guy really took advantage of the system. I always though to get a plant patent, you had to breed your own plants, not find a plant/seed and do plant selection.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2009 at 9:57PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

This story is a sign of the times. The patenting of lifeforms will only increase, now that such dangerous precedents have occurred. Apparently, no one in the U.S. Patent Office ever checks to see if plants already exist, before granting a patent - and with it, exclusive rights to plants with the trait in question.

There's another one here, about a Siegers Seed Company patent for warty pumpkins. They too are trying to retroactively remove all similar pre-existing varieties with "their" trait (warts) through the use of legal action. Note that it is the warts, not the varieties themselves, that were patented.

What comes next? Patents on winter squash, sweet corn, snap peas? This law should be abolished; food plants created by conventional breeding should be covered only under the PVP system, not utility patents. Nor should plant traits, not the varieties themselves, be patentable.

Both are patents, so what is the difference? You can legally grow, save, & possess PVP seed - as long as you don't sell it. You can even use PVP varieties to breed new varieties.

By comparison, seed patented as an "invention" may not even be possessed without license from the patent holder. We would not even be able to save our own seed legally, were someone to patent something we have already been growing for generations. Nor do "inventions" enjoy unrestricted access by breeder to develop better varieties.

(I would concede that the GMO's created by BioTech would qualify as inventions, since they created something which could not evolve naturally. However, if you grant this argument to be true - that a new life form was created - then the "substantially equivalent" ruling by the FDA for GM food crops has no validity.)

BioTech opened up this loophole, because it represents guaranteed profit. Now that the legal precedents have been set, the system is open to abuse from any & all comers. If the patenting of traits is allowed to continue, it's only a matter of time before the ability for us to grow our own food is taken away from us. Don't think it can't happen - it will happen, so long as greed is allowed to trump the public interest.

These patent laws, when challenged, are defended under the "we must reward those who will feed the world" argument. What a load of compost. Patented varieties are not feeding the world, except where they replaced existing varieties that were already doing so.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2009 at 3:24AM
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ruthieg__tx(z8 TX)

For some reason they were easy to buy here and now none of the stores carry them so maybe he actually put a stop or a dent to the importing. They are a very good tasting bean. Supposedly from the Peruano, Canario and the Azufrado...hope I spelled those right but I love pinto's and these are better than pintos. I saved some from a bag I bought last year to plant and never got around to planting them.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2009 at 11:38AM
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We saw and occasionally purchased yellow beans, everywhere we lived in Mexico for over 13 years. Most commonly they were called Peruano.

It is indeed a sad state of affairs when someone can patent this bean, when they did very little other than select from a sample brought home from Mexico to begin with!

Regarding GMO, I think any plant material sold, in the store, which is GMO ought to be labeled clearly, since they say it's illegal to grow it without paying royalties. They put people at potential risk if they should chose, for instance, to grow a potato from the grocery store or some corn from animal feed. My understanding is that at least 25% of store bought potatoes are now GMO and something like 75% of corn produced in our country.

Tahlequah, OK

    Bookmark   March 11, 2009 at 3:17PM
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Wait. Help me out here. I only buy organic or natural selection. I bought a bag of dried Mayocoba beans in Charlotte NC. Are you saying that they are GMO!? Goya brand. That is NOT good, there is a pot boiling on the stove now with vegan soup and those beans!

    Bookmark   May 6, 2011 at 8:58PM
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No, they are not GMO! Your beans are safe.

BTW, they revoked the bean patent because enough people complained.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2011 at 10:41PM
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I know it's been awhile since the original post but might as well jump in... :)

We've enjoyed cooking these beans for quite some time but I noticed the bean was available from a grower so I ordered a packet. I hope to grown them successfully this year (2015). From what I have seen reported, they are a half-runner bean, combining traits of both bush and pole beans. Supposedly they won't need trellising but we're going to grown them next to a fence so they can climb if they want to.

    Bookmark   January 26, 2015 at 11:21AM
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Would it not be possible to plant the ones you buy to eat? I have been enjoying these beans for a few years as well, but unfortunately have not had much luck with beans where I currently live--under a fog bank all summer.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2015 at 4:42AM
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Yes, Kristin, it should be easy to simply plant a couple seed from a purchased sack of these beans. Often, the germination rate from a purchased bag of grocery store beans, will be a bit low. But some will grow.


    Bookmark   February 28, 2015 at 6:07AM
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