Tennessee Greasy, Have you grown It?

remy_gwOctober 27, 2013

Hi All,
This bean is from Sand Hill Preservation. The site description is this:
"A true mix. I've tried for over 10 years to segregate this. I've concluded that it is a true mixture. Seeds are various colors as well as having pods of various shapes and textures. Beans can be used both in the green snap stage and dried for soup. Ornamental and colorful."
I had all beans that looked like the little brown ones to the left. I ended up with 4 different beans. The 3rd beans over a bit white looking in person.
Anyone have the same results? Or did you get different results?
The only pic on the internet I could find was the one on the link, and it does look like they got the 3rd bean over also.
Remy

Here is a link that might be useful: Blog with photo (3rd one down)

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hementia8(8 MS)

This has been my third year growing this mix and this year I only found two dif. types
One all black and another simular to the 3rd one you have shown
Last year I had some simular to your first and last with dark brown being prominent
The first year I had a few white beans
I believe that they are not a true mix and can be segregated in time
Charlie

    Bookmark   October 28, 2013 at 11:54AM
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fusion_power

The color combinations are consistent with the colors I get out of my tricolor beans. Black, brown, and white. Since yours are white speckled, and pinkish brown speckled, I'll speculate that they are a mix with the tricolor gene plus a gene for speckling and for pink color.

You should be able to segregate out at least 5 pure breeding lines from those seed. The white speckled may be the hardest to stabilize. By the way, I suspect that the tricolor gene is actually a transposon aka a jumping gene, can't prove this though.

I spoke with Glenn about these beans last week. He did as he said, threw his hands up and decided to sell them as a mix. Have Fun With Them!

DarJones

    Bookmark   October 28, 2013 at 8:02PM
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remy_gw

Thanks Guys!
I really would love to get the white specked one to be true. I think it is neat looking. The dark blue bean though makes green pods with a pretty purple overlay so those would me nice too...
Remy

    Bookmark   October 28, 2013 at 8:50PM
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hementia8(8 MS)

I would like to add that I only planted the speckled and in return got the black and the speckled small beans
None of the pods exceeded 4" ,most were 3"
All were green podded
I too like the speckled seeds best
Charlie

This post was edited by hementia8 on Tue, Oct 29, 13 at 10:42

    Bookmark   October 29, 2013 at 10:34AM
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tormato

I'll have to look through my collection to see what Tennessee Greasy produced, a few years ago. I know it wasn't the range of colors that were planted. No blacks, whites, or third in the photo, for sure.

Gary

    Bookmark   October 30, 2013 at 12:12PM
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drloyd

Hmm. Well, I planted a mix of sizes shapes and colors. The result was a few seeds dark enough to be called black. Quite a few dark chocolate #2 and milk chocolate like #4. Very few that could be called off white like #3. Very few were light tan with brown mottling like #1. The majority were light tan but with dark brown or almost black streaks like a mini version of Jembo Polish which I have never grown.

The pods were from 2 inches to 6 inches long and 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch or more in diameter. - Dick

    Bookmark   November 2, 2013 at 2:13PM
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tormato

#2 was the only definite color for me. I'll trial this in 2014 to see what happens.

Also, "maybe" #1, but this may have been Ohio Cutshort climbing one teepee over.

No other colors

Gary

    Bookmark   November 5, 2013 at 1:09PM
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hementia8(8 MS)

These came from a selection of the white speckled and few black ones showes up
Note the horizonal stripes on the pods of the white speckled ones
I did not notice such markings on the pods of the black ones
This is the first time I noticed these markings and the only time I have seen it in a pole bean
However I have seen it in a few cow pea var.
Charlie

    Bookmark   July 30, 2014 at 10:58AM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

What color are the pods supposed to be? The ones I'm growing this year are flushed purple.

Annette

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 2:50PM
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remy_gw

I've seen that, speckled, and plain green pods. It is all over the place.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 6:29PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Thanks Remy, I only planted 6 and probably all with the same colored seedcoat (the ones I had the most of). Most of the beans are this color with the exception of a couple of completely dry pods I found, these were speckled/streaked and the seed is speckled black.

I thought they had snuck in from the Mrs Fortune's pole planted next to them, mystery solved. I had forgotten how mixed up these guys are LOL. Anyhow they seem to like the growing conditions here in the PNW.

Annette

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 7:20PM
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remy_gw

Did you plant speckled seed or solid color seed?
I planted different colors separately. I'm looking forward to seeing what I get from each color I planted.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 8:26PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Solid colored, not the golden brown or the darker greyish in the picture, the other brown one :). I haven't got any seed from the purple podded ones in the pic above, pods not dry enough to shell yet.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 9:31PM
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remy_gw

Well, it will be interesting to see what happens. I started with on the brown speckles ones only and got that whole mix from them,

    Bookmark   September 4, 2014 at 9:35PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Well so far from the solid colored seed I planted (the far right in your picture above) most of the pods were purple and the seed from them is all the same color seen in the picture on the left. Only a couple of pods were a different color and much smaller, picture on the right. Next year I'll plant the brown speckled ones on their own and a few from the purple podded I grew this year on a separate pole and see what I get. They were just grown for seed this year, have to wait until next year for a taste.

    Bookmark   September 17, 2014 at 7:36AM
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sea_kangaroo(USDA 9, Sunset 15)

This is really interesting-- I have some of the same patterns as you guys, some different ones, and then I'm missing some of the ones I see in the photos here. I unfortunately didn't take any pod photos when I grew these but I don't remember any solid purple ones; I think they were all green or green with purple streaks. There was definitely a mix of purple and white flowers.

Here's some of what I got from Sand Hill:

And here's one each of all the patterns I got out:

(one or two of those are duplicate patterns though, since they're just reverses)

The pinto bean-like patterns predominated, with about 1/3 of my harvest the black specks on tan, 1/3 the brown specks on tan, 1/6 solid brown, and 1/6 everything else.

Are you guys getting multiple different patterns on one plant, or is it one per?

    Bookmark   September 30, 2014 at 3:45AM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

So far it's been one per. I only grew a few around a pole and those for seed. I'll grow more next year, this time round we'll actually get to eat some :). Next year I'll plant one with a different seed coat, see what it produces.

Annette

    Bookmark   September 30, 2014 at 11:25AM
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remy_gw

Well, I have gotten small black speckled beans and large black speckled, and brown beans her at home. Unfortunately, at the farm there was a disaster two weeks ago. The deer got in and ate all my beans well 99.99%. Just horrible. Annette, there were a few dry Aunt Vi bean pods, and maybe a few more of those will be found, but all in all a disaster :(
Anyway, I'm glad I got the speckled beans as they are cool looking. I'll grow them again next year.
Remy

    Bookmark   September 30, 2014 at 7:51PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Remy, damn deer, check your email.

Annette

    Bookmark   September 30, 2014 at 11:03PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

I just shelled these a couple of days ago, just one short pod, it was green streaked purple before it dried these are the seed it produced. This bean fascinates me, it's such a surprise package when you shell them :).
Annette

    Bookmark   October 17, 2014 at 1:14PM
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sea_kangaroo(USDA 9, Sunset 15)

That's a nice one! Lovely sort of blue-grey background.

    Bookmark   October 17, 2014 at 5:23PM
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