Acer palmatum 'Ukigumo'

gardener365(5b Illinois USA)July 15, 2009

Bethlehem Nursery plant:

Acer palmatum 'Ukigumo'

photos from Dendo

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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

That's not what this one is. This is instead a brocade type like 'Oridono-nishiki'.

Here is a link that might be useful: Google Pictures

    Bookmark   July 15, 2009 at 11:29PM
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davidv(6)

Looks like Ukigumo to me

Dave

    Bookmark   July 16, 2009 at 11:05AM
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dendo(z5CT)

I raised this tree from a puppy and I know what it is .

D

    Bookmark   July 16, 2009 at 10:49PM
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dendo(z5CT)

I hope we dont have to commission a maple Czar .

D

    Bookmark   July 17, 2009 at 10:52AM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Did anyone look at my link? The stippled variegation pattern is why it is called 'Ukigumo' (Floating Clouds in English). Nurseries do sometimes sell mislabeled stock, it does not matter if a plant received under the wrong name is big or small when you got it - it's still mislabeled.

Encountering other mislabeled specimens elsewhere does not establish that yours is the true item. Naming of suspect plants is checked by reading descriptions, looking at pictures and comparing yours with numerous other living examples.

A friend read an article once that estimated the amount of plants being traded in the US under the wrong names as about a third!

    Bookmark   July 17, 2009 at 12:23PM
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deep___roots(ca9/sunset15)

Not trying to stir it up, but I have "orido-nishiki" that looks like the picture. The red stems are the indicator.
I also have "ukigomo" that is as tall as the tree in the picture but not as full, and the leaf color is more chartreuse in addition to the pinkish-whitish colors and there are no dark green leaves, but that could just be due to the light it receives.
Like I say, these are just my observations...not trying to make anybody unhappy or pretend I'm an expert.
Maybe my trees are mislabeled!
Yep, I once got a full moon maple at Orchard Supply Hardware (CA big box store) that was labeled as a regular JM. I knew what is was from the leaves and I snapped it up at a very very nice price. Shhhh.
The tree in the picture is lovely.

    Bookmark   July 17, 2009 at 1:28PM
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davidv(6)

Well dendo maybe next time you should try getting it right.

    Bookmark   July 17, 2009 at 2:50PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

It's beautiful, whatever it is.
Thanks to Dax and Dendo!

Josh

    Bookmark   July 17, 2009 at 4:08PM
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gardengal48

I must say I don't see the degree of stipling common to 'Ukigumo' either -- the patterning looks more 'blocked' (for lack of a better word), similar to the variegation pattern of an 'Orido Nishiki'.

But....it is a bit of a distance shot and maybe a close-up would reveal what my aging eyes don't see :-) Whatever, it IS a very handsome tree.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2009 at 12:03AM
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dendo(z5CT)

Hi Dave ,
I will try in my next 75 years to get it right .( Maybe they gave me too much anesthesia last January ) .
I looked up my bill from Extrom in Oregon and they were listed as Ukigumo . I also have looked at several websites and now I have my doubts also . The strange thing about this tree the inside leaves ARE dappled .
I will try to get down with John OB this summer .

Best
D

    Bookmark   July 18, 2009 at 12:27PM
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davidv(6)

I will be here.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 18, 2009 at 2:30PM
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