Is Dog Tooth Violet a good idea or not?

dandy_line(3B (Brainerd, Mn))April 24, 2009

I just returned from a trip to the Mn river valley south of LeSueur where I visited friends whose entire woods is solid Dog Tooth Violet(or is it Trout Lily)?

It appeared to me they were more invasive than beneficial. I mean the entire woods floor was comprised of this species. Very few of anything else was visible. I was temped to take some bulbs home with me but would not want my woods to end up the same way.

Is this typical ? Does anyone have any experience with them?

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heleninramsey

I don't grow them so I have no personal experience, but they are an ephemeral, meaning that they will pop up early before much else is out yet partly because this is the only sun they will see for the year as the trees will soon leaf out. Then they go dormant till next spring. This being the case, I do not think they can do much damage to an eco system.

I will stand corrected if others have different information.

Helen.

    Bookmark   April 25, 2009 at 12:06PM
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giantslug(4b/5 SW Minnesota)

I have tried to grow White Dogtooth violets/ Trout lily (Erythronium albidum) and they are very slow growing. They failed to come back this year, so I think they died or were eaten by wildlife. They do spread to form colonies but it takes a long time for them to grow to a significant size. I think that your friend's woods must be perfect growing conditions for them and they have had a long time to spread. Or perhaps they have a mutated trout lily that has become invasive!

    Bookmark   April 28, 2009 at 2:22PM
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dandy_line(3B (Brainerd, Mn))

Thanks for the posts. I feel relieved now and will try to collect some bulbs next time I visit.
Their woods contained what appeared to be millions of these plants. I'll have to see what it looks like in summer. Hopefully they disappear at that time.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2009 at 10:52PM
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selkie_b(z4 MN)

They are extremely precious! I have many in my gardens - BUT only 5 or 6 actually bloom (and yes trout lily and dog-toothed violet are the same) The bulbs have to be planted at exactly the correct depth and have exactly the right light to bloom. If you disturb them (dig them up) it'll take a couple years before you'll know if you got them right in re-planting. If they only pop up one leaf consistently they'll never bloom. The only reason any of mine ever did (the person who planted them, none of them bloomed) was because I didn't realize where they were when I went in to plant some other things and they got shifted just a bit - they seemed to have liked where they wound up! Only spot they bloom! They are totally native here and I find them totally delightful. Be patient with them, but I think you'll never regret transplanting them into your garden. They prefer light in spring with heavy dappling in summer. All the ones in total shade are the ones that aren't blooming :)

-Marie

    Bookmark   April 30, 2009 at 10:08AM
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