Rose Bush Gone WIld?

fiestaJune 27, 2005

I think I have a rose bush that's gone wild. No roses this year - just lots of leaves that don't look like rose bush leaves. Is that possible?

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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Yes, possible, if this was a grafted rose and the rose died back to the ground over winter or the graft failed. You could be seeing growth from the root stock, generally a much hardier, vigorous but otherwise not garden worthy rose.

"Grafted roses, commonly referred to as budded plants, are plants where the desired rose is grafted or budded onto a rootstock of a different type. The point where the desired variety and the rootstock meet is called the bud union.

Own-root roses may be recommended for those in very cold climates. This is because an own-root rose that dies back to the ground during the winter can grow back the next year from the roots. If a grafted rose dies back to the ground, what will come up next Spring is the rootstock variety, usually an undesireable variety of rose."

    Bookmark   June 27, 2005 at 5:51PM
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lindac(Iowa Z 5/4)

But.....when a rose "goes wild" that is dies back below the graft, the wild growth looks every bit like a rose....thorns and all, but usually blooms with small white flowers.
Those of us who live in zones 5 and north need to remember to plant a grafted rose with the graft 4 inches below the ground level.
Linda C

    Bookmark   June 27, 2005 at 6:26PM
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susi319

I am a complete newbie to roses. I have been trying to maintain what was here at my house when i purchased it and have done ok till now. I have to bushes growing wild as well and am wondering if I should pull them out. Looking for help from an expert.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2007 at 2:05PM
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lindac(Iowa Z 5/4)

Cut all the "wild" stems back to the ground....you can tell the wild ones, they are tall and don't show signs of a bud. If there is anything left after you remove the wild stuff....leave it and remove any wild that regrows.
If there is nothing left, dig it out. But be sure to get it all. I am currently dealing with a bit of wild root that keeps regrowing because I didn't get it all!
Linda C

    Bookmark   July 16, 2007 at 6:25PM
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triciae(Zone 7 Coastal SE CT)

It's pretty easy to tell if your roses have died back to the rootstock. Eighty percent of the roses grown in the US come from the Wasco, CA area & are grafted onto red climbing Rosa 'Dr. Huey'. So, if suddently, all of your roses are red & throwing longer than normal canes...pretty good bet your top graft is gone. 'Dr. Huey' is a pretty good rose in its own right, however, east of the Mississippi it tends to mildew quite badly.

Tricia

    Bookmark   July 17, 2007 at 12:23PM
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vetivert8(NI-NZ zone 9a)

FWIW - you might actually have a 'heritage' rose or something that isn't a hybrid tea/floribunda of recent production.

Rugosa roses are often grown on their own roots and throw up lots of prickly stems.

The old variety 'Rosa mundi' - and many of the Gallica roses also don't look much like 'respectable' roses.

Some only flower once in a season, then have a flush of rosehips - all sorts of shapes and colours from black to brilliant tomato as well as pleasing autumn colour. They're more of a two-season plant than many of the repeat-flowering roses.

Also - their growth habit - bushy shrub, rambler, climber - can be very different from the more usual bush or standard forms. So can their leaf forms. Some can be very crinkled, or with little leaflets, and not shiny at all.

You might want to look on the antique roses forum to see if you can spot plants similar to yours.

(PS antique roses can be addictive. Moss roses... Damask...Enough! Enough!)

    Bookmark   July 18, 2007 at 12:44AM
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lindac(Iowa Z 5/4)

All but one of the roses I have had die back to root, were on multiflora stock...weedy tiny white flowers....and very hard to get rid of!
Linda C

    Bookmark   July 19, 2007 at 2:45PM
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prattmomma_hotmail_com

My rose bushes of different varieties grew back with the same style rose. The blossoms are red and plentiful but not what I want. I want an antique red rose color that withstands the cold. Any suggestions?

    Bookmark   June 5, 2011 at 4:09PM
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