Louisiana haters

lily316(z5PA)March 23, 2012

While little Ricky boy was showing the gun crowd how he loves to shoot and kill, a woman cried out as he shot targets..'Pretend it's Obama' with the crowd chuckling their response. This would be the Christian right who cling to their bibles and guns. Santorum didn't hear the remark, and later condemned it, but it just shows the dear old south how it really is in some areas. Just sickening.

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mrskjun(9)

No it doesn't lily. It just shows that there are ignorant people in the south just as there are in other regions of the country. Unacceptable behavior will always be unacceptable behavior. btw, that was no Christian.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 4:31PM
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Circus Peanut

I agree with Mrskjun: there are nasty violent bigots everywhere, not just the American South.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 4:37PM
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lily316(z5PA)

What about those in the chuckling crowd? Not a Christian among them? I find that hard to believe, because most of Santorum's supporters , if not all, are right wing Tea Party Christians. Who else would support a man with such a social agenda?

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 4:38PM
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mrskjun(9)

If they chuckled at those words lily...not a Christian among them.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 4:41PM
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jodik_gw

I've made mention several times of my trips south and the things I witnessed. They weren't at all fair, and they sure weren't pretty. It actually placed a blemish on the memories of a few of those trips.

It's the 21 century, already.. and people still behave this way? It blows my mind.

Some folks long for the past, days gone by, remembering the good times... but blocking out all the pain and horror that went with those times. They long for what amounts to a tv series, where June has the house clean, dinner on the table, and the kids are all spiffy, all before Ward walks through the door and they sit down and say grace before eating.

What they've blocked out are all the bad things that were happening around or shortly after that same time. The shootings, the hangings without trials, the discrimination that still permeates our society... some of it out in the open, and some, at that time, still closely guarded, hidden where no one could find it.

I find exclusion, racism, intolerance, and that behavior we still see within today's society completely offensive and abhorrent.

Luckily, the clock cannot be turned back. And more people are accepting than not, except for a few pockets here and there within our nation. It's only too sad that our bought and paid for media mostly features the worst of humanity... instead of highlighting the best we can be as one single race... the human one.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 4:46PM
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lily316(z5PA)

Don't think I'm picking on LA, because we have these same morons in PA. It made one sick to hear them interviewed in 2008. The stuff that came out of their mouths was mind boggling in this day and age. But these people are everywhere, and they vote with their hate.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 5:43PM
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inkognito

Does the United part of USA mean anything to you people? "Welcome to the US of A the finger pointing nation/country/place/whatever."

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 5:58PM
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jodik_gw

Apparently not, Ink... it would be exceedingly nice if everyone were inclusive, bigotry didn't exist, groups of people weren't treated differently than other groups... and it kind of goes along with ethics and integrity...

But... this is what we appear to be... constantly divided on issues, warring against everything and everyone, entitlement and class differences constantly battling, with our middle class slowly disappearing, etc...

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 6:06PM
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mrskjun(9)

Thank you for that clarification lily, the jump on the bandwagon to trash the racist south was already beginning.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 6:07PM
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natal(Louisiana 8b)

Kid yourself all you like, but it's not just the south. There are ignorant people everywhere.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 6:12PM
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demifloyd(8)

Just for the record, we have Rev. Wright in Chicago, Illinois, "God Da** America."

Hater.

They're plentiful everywhere.

In fact, we have haters of people that aren't like them.

Just another form of politically correct and accepted prejudice.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 6:17PM
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chase_gw

Hatred and bigotry is not particular to any country or any part of any country. It is in the hearts of some wherever they may live.

What is worrisome to me is that so many are totally unaware of their bigotry and hatred. They simply think they see things the right way.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 6:59PM
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elvis

jodik: "...It would be exceedingly nice if everyone were inclusive, bigotry didn't exist,..."

Not picking on you, honest. But! There you go again.

"Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who exhibits intolerance and animosity toward members of a group. Bigotry may be directed toward those of a DIFFERING SEX or sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, national origin, language, RELIGION OR SPIRITUAL BELIEF, POLITICAL ALIGNMENT, age, economic status, or medical disability." (Free Miriam-Webster Dictionary; emphasis added in capital letters)

Are you listening to yourself? You really should avoid using any form of the word "bigot" unless you plan to clean up your act, my dear.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 7:07PM
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jerzeegirl(9)

And I take it, elvis, that you're exempt.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 7:42PM
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elvis

That is correct; I do not fit that definition. Is this deflection? Or denial maybe?

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 7:50PM
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paulines(New England)

I missed the post(s) where Elvis exhibited any indication of bigotry. But of course you're just being snarky JZ.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 7:54PM
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labrea_gw

One word that loon Rev. Dennis terry ranting before blessing Santorum. Just another vesrion of Jeremiah Right, Louis Farrakhan, Rev Phelps. Their all losers!
Preaching the victim hood of being Christian in the US while kicking the crap out of the usual targets of a particular form of baptist bigotry.
Gays, women ho have had abortion, separation of church & state.

Forth Worth's Broadway Baptist Church was booted out because it included photos of gay members in the church directory the Southern baptist severed 125 year old ties with the church LOL.
Just a little religious rhetoric out of a good old Fellah!
His god isn't very powerful that he's enduring all these suckers all around him
If I believe in prayer as a form of magic that makes events happen I would pray for this man to feel the misery that is really at the bottom of a questionable commodity SOUL.
I was raised a KATLICCK can any Baptists Church be a Southern baptist Church or do they have to be in DA south>

Here is a link that might be useful: Rev Terry

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 8:56PM
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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes(5)

What is worrisome to me is that so many are totally unaware of their bigotry and hatred. They simply think they see "all" things the right way.

I fixed it for you.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 9:00PM
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elvis

Was something broke, BW? Thanks! :)

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 10:18PM
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jodik_gw

Actually, the dictionary definition of bigotry is: "obtuse or narrow-minded intolerance, especially of other races or religions." There are too many synonyms to list, and very few antonyms.

Essentially, elvis, what you are doing amounts to "stirring the pot", but stir it if you so wish.

The words I use are chosen for a reason, and if you aren't hip to them, or they don't tickle your fancy, ignore them and move on, or speak at someone else. It's really as simple as that. It's normally what I try to do, though it doesn't always work out as I'd like.

You will find, should you remain a regular poster within this forum, that I don't need a lesson in language, spelling, grammar, context, nor comprehension, as these things normally do not elude me. I have them all quite nicely under control, thank you very much, and am very aware of the meanings of the words I utilize, way before I deign to use them as descriptions or other parts of my posts.

Being a public message board, it is my right... to use the word or words I feel fit best to make the point I want to make... and so far, I've had no complaints from anyone I speak to.

So, once more, I say that it's a very large shame that the US is so divided, so permeated with bigotry, and many of the synonyms and other words that closely describe the current climate, political and otherwise... not to mention an overload of media misinformation... and to me, it also speaks of the lacking integrity and empathy that can be seen quite clearly within this nation.

My fan club grows with renewed vigor, and as flattering as that may seem, it's really not something that I, personally, find attractive nor desirable... but, to each his or her own, I do suppose.

Now, as to the OP, where were we...

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 11:45PM
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elvis

Wow! That was very thoughtfully put together. So glad you took the time to deign (condescend) down to the level of a regular person like me. I can only hope and pray that one day I too can become worthy of your kind alliance.

But you really should avoid talking about others being bigoted. Pretty obvious that's the pot caling the kettle black.

IMHO.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2012 at 11:53PM
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labrea_gw

yep ankle biter!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 12:12AM
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mylab123(z5NW)

Yip! Yip! (grrrrrrr.....grrrrr...growl!)

Ankles, beware.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 2:52AM
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maddie_athome

Pay no attention, folks. Just one more that follows people around all day long, thinking they're entitled to lecture us.

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It was a Republican event, doesn't matter where it takes place, it's par for the course. No surprise there.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:04AM
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lily316(z5PA)

Everyone should hope to be as articulate as Jodik.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:09AM
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heri_cles

The South has a long history of racial intolerance and worse...from slavery on the plantations, the Civil War, the KKK and Jim Crow. It did not magically go away over night. Denying that it exists is not going to make it all better and attacking the messenger isn't going to do that either.
The first step toward resolving a problem is to admit that you have it. The Southerners just refuse to acknowledge history and refuse to accept the realties of the 21st century, multi-racial, multi-cultural America.
They want their country back, because they cannot accept the way it is now.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:25AM
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woodnymph2_gw

We know this sort of hate speech and bigotry is prevalent throughout the US. BUT----because of the history of the Civil War and the Jim Crow years in the South, it does seem to be more rampant and more overt. And for many years, the educational systems in the South were sub-par.The poor white sharecroppers' resentment of the "Carpetbaggers" descending from the North factored into the bigotry as well. There are so many elements given the history of the South that keep this in play, even today. Stating the obvious. And it was not that long ago that lynchings actually took place in the 20th century deep South.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 9:57AM
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elvis

Wait a second! Back to the OP! The heckler didn't say anything about the President's color. Her remark was outrageous because it was directed at doing harm to the POTUS. That was very, very wrong. You may assume that she shouted what she did because the President is a person of color, but that's not the point, that's an assumption.

Anyone who sterotypes people in the southern U.S. this way has seen "Deliverance" waaay too many times. That kind of sterotyping could be considered "bigotry".

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:09AM
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demifloyd(8)

Try reading about what the "carpetbaggers" did to the all of the vulnerable people in the south after the Civil War and you might now why these morally bankrupt opportunists were resented.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:09AM
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jodik_gw

Thank you, Lily. Words are kind of my "thing". :-)

Racism happens north of the Mason-Dixon line, too... but it doesn't seem to happen in quite the same way. At least, from what I've noticed through the course of my life, which has been fairly long.

Up here, a mixed group of people would never have to wait to be seated at a restaurant until all the white folks were taken care of, just as one example. As another, I've never heard of an unarmed kid getting gunned down for possessing Skittles and iced tea by the armed neighborhood bully... I mean "Watch".

But I sort of digress... racism can be found just about everywhere. It just seems to take on slightly different forms in different areas.

In my opinion, denial is part of the problem. I've never heard anyone say that racism doesn't exist elsewhere, whether it was north, east, or west... but for some reason, there are people dedicated to denying that the south has slightly more than its fair share of issues. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting one exists.

I have yet to hear a northerner utter the words, "anyone but Obama"... even if they are Republican. I'm sure there are a few that feel that way, but I've yet to hear such a thing voiced.

From the beginning, about 3 years ago, it's been my opinion... and that of many others... that certain parts of this nation are simply not ready to see a black man hold one of the highest offices in the land. Denial flew around on the biggest wings I've ever seen, but every point led back to that conclusion... and I asked the question, when WILL America be ready to accept a person of race other than Caucasian to take a seat in the Oval Office? There were no replies.

Just the amount and types of controversy surrounding this Presidency tell a story that goes beyond the limits of "policy", which has become code talking point for the ethnic heritage of our esteemed President. How many other Presidents have been called to show their birth certificates as proof they belong where they are, and not once or twice, but continually, and to the tune of several falsely filed court cases? How many other Presidents have been called on their educational merits, demands of seeing college records and everything but the tag on his underwear repeatedly voiced? And it doesn't end there. He's been labeled a Socialist, a Muslim, and many other bizarre things, and the jokes that make the rounds are undeniably racial in tone.

The answer is... no other President in the history of the United States has been treated as badly by portions of the citizenry as our current President has, and he's not even liberal. He's made it quite clear that he's moderate, at best... and his actions would back that up.

And so, it would appear that there's much more than political policy at the core of all the public dislike and the groups that stepped forward voicing such dislike. Most persons looking at the situation from a logical standpoint would say that the issue is clearly one of race.

With all that being said, and with the current climate to be found in different areas, how can anyone possibly deny that racism is still quite an issue within the US, its hub seemingly more southern in nature?

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:09AM
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woodnymph2_gw

Try reading about 20th century lynchings in the South.
Try reading about the KKK.
Try reading about Birmingham Sunday.
Try reading about Little Rock and Old Miss.
Try reading about good ole boys Lester Maddox in Atlanta and Governor Wallace of Alabama.

These are not stereotypes from "Deliverance."

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:19AM
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maddie_athome

Defending scumbags again.

Figures.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:25AM
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elvis

Your point, WN? Living in the past is part of the problem, no? Can't we try to learn from our mistakes and do better? I'm not saying bury the past; or that we should deny those shameful events occurred. Just the opposite.

Can't we celebrate the fact that we recognize these events happened, that we are filled with regret on behalf of those who went before us, and we're going to do better.
Wallowing in these horrors isn't going to get us anywhere.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:32AM
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paulines(New England)

Everyone who lives in the south is a scumbag, who knew?

I think it's far *smarter* to understand and say that there are ignorant people in the south...and the north, and the west, and the east. People come across as stupid when they make generalizations.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:35AM
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demifloyd(8)

People come across as stupid when they make generalizations.

*

Robo Parrots prove that consistently!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:51AM
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labrea_gw

Stupid person, stupid statement, partisan hateful crowd!

Also in fairness something I have written about before.
4 Million New Yorker's have been stopped & frisked since the practices inception, not for homeland security1 repeat not for homeland security!
In Progressive, Liberal what was that term "himey town"!
Mostly black & off white people are stopped questioned & frisked in their neighborhood & you better know how to behave while it's happening to you or you'll be taken in for interfering with a police operation!
Old white guy walking through a mostly Black & Hispanic neighborhood (isn't that suspicious) I do it frequently never been stopped & frisked.

No longer a pretense of what I hear growing up "if your not doing anything suspicious nobody is going to bother you" 4 Million that's a lot of bother for a locality. Can you call NY/Himey Town a locality?
Rates are almost 100 to 1 & more in the stop & frisk or stop & question.

The person in LA was a baby wipe, we have a lot of high profile cases in NY of race bias I can't remember that last one where an old white guy was set upon by a group of yooooots with baseball bats though the converse has happened in our more diversely white neighborhoods.

Lyrics from a 1953 song I won't let anyone off the hook!

They're rioting in Africa, they're starving in Spain.
There's hurricanes in Florida, and Texas needs rain.
The whole world is festering with unhappy souls.
The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles.
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch.
And I don't like anybody very much!

But we can be tranquil, and thankful, and proud,
For mans' been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud.
And we know for certain that some lovely day
Someone will set the spark off, and we will all be blown away.

They're rioting in Africa, there's strife in Iran.
What nature doesn't do to us, will be done by our fellow man.
(nthat cute)

Deryl Dedmon got 2 consecutive life sentences tother day you know that media keeps making all these high profile cases seem to be about race.
I think we had postings about that story I think some folks thought it was all about drugs, I'm pretty sure some folks suggested it was about drugs I could be wrong.

Most hatred is irrational (so!) Most people who hate in their heart do it secretly! Hatred is never anger which is usually expressed in the here & now but fear that is nurtured & cultivated. (Just my take on my own stuff)
Most people don't even have a clue about their own stuff no matter the race & if shown it would deny it right off the bat.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 11:40AM
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elvis

Labrea: That last sentence is probably true. How many people actually read your post, I wonder? Are you a shrink/poet, or what?

Just kidding; don't answer that~~

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 2:50PM
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demifloyd(8)

He's a happy thinker. ;)

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:12PM
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maddie_athome

I especially find the they-ain't-christians!-spin hilarious. They're christians only when it suits them.

The Secret Service is investigating. It happened on a shooting range, shouldn't be difficult to identify her.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:33PM
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elvis

Good.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 3:34PM
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mrskjun(9)

labrea, that poem was so right on. Thanks.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 5:01PM
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labrea_gw

Kingston Trio sang it under the name Merry Minuete.
Many folks that do examine their are either overly judgmental making themselves more twisted or the opposite making themselves more selfish, care less,
One of my biggest challenges is not to truly hate some of you for I truly get close to it so often see because to truly hate is to be apathetic & uncaring from where I sit.
I am merely irate there the difference!
Happy thinker Demi that's a low blow the day I become one them I kill myself seriously & do the world a favor.

Ingrained institutional apathetic casual racism is a daily part of life in NYC. We got a broad selection of haters & hatees in this town.
A good number of them agree on the homo thing.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:38PM
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elvis

Tooo funny, Labrea...

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 10:52PM
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labrea_gw

really thats pathetic!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2012 at 11:56PM
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elvis

I saw your post as black humor (anyone who does not know what this is, please chill out). Not?

    Bookmark   March 25, 2012 at 12:07AM
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