black raspberries

sammy zone 7 TulsaFebruary 18, 2008

Why are black raspberries no longer available in the stores, and do any of you know how to grow them? They are my favorite berry, and we can never find them. We find the large black berries, but not the black raspberry.

I get the jam all the time, so I know they grow somewhere. Dawn, you seem to know about the berries, do you happen to know if they will grow here? I didn't want to hijack the other thread, so thought I would start my own.

Sammy

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Okiedawn OK Zone 7

Sammy,

I don't know why black raspberries are harder to find in grocery stores nowadays. It is probably a combination of factors and one of those is the expense. Most people will just buy blackberries instead of black raspberries because they are cheaper. Also, I think raspberries are more delicate and, therefore, harder to ship than blackberries.

In some stores you can still find black raspberries frozen in boxes or bags, but only in the larger stores that have a really great selection. I think it is more economical for fruit processors/wholesalers to sell black raspberries frozen instead of fresh due to their delicacy, relatively short shelf life when freshly-picked, and transportation costs from the cooler regions of the country to here.

If you wanted to try to grow raspberries here in Oklahoma, I think the black ones would do better than the red or gold ones. Raspberries don't grow as well as blackberries here in Oklahoma because they don't like our wildly fluctuating winter high temps and they don't like our summer heat.

We had a thread on raspberries last year because Mark received some raspberry plants as a gift. I'll find that thread and link it below.

I do think you have a better chance of getting them to grow in the parts of Oklahoma that are zone 6 instead of zone 7, especially if you have good soil and a lot of rain.

Also, you might want to google and find the website for the Oklahoma Fruit Growers Association. They've been trialing raspberries for several years, trying to identify which varieties might succeed here. Also, if anyone is growing black raspberries commercially (and successfully) in Oklahoma, the association should know.

Dawn

Here is a link that might be useful: Spring 2007 Blackberry Thread

    Bookmark   February 18, 2008 at 8:53PM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Thanks for the link, Dawn. I don't have any foods in my garden, so I think I need to begin small, and work up to the black raspberries. Whatever I grow, I need to be able to cover it for awhile if I spray. That is a true drawback to having so many roses.

It is still nice to think that I might be able to grow them someday.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2008 at 6:16AM
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