You got that right!

mrskjun(9)April 16, 2012

Thank you David Axelrod. Just what republicans have been saying all along.

"The choice in this election is between an economy that produces a growing middle class, and that gives people a chance to get ahead, and their kids a chance to get ahead, and an economy that continues down the road we�re on," Axelrod said........."

And just why are we continuing down the road we are on?

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esh_ga

And just why are we continuing down the road we are on?

Perhaps if the federal level Republicans would participate in some decisions that help the middle class for a change we could be on a different road.

Instead they just want to give tax cuts to the folks making over $250,000 in the hopes that something will trickle down. A strategy which has not worked in quite some time.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 8:19AM
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mrskjun(9)

No, esh, they would like to reform the tax code. Cut out loopholes and deductions. Do you honestly think that those folks making over 250,000 are going to pay a dime more if their taxes are raised? These are the people who can afford the best tax lawyers to find these loopholes and deductions. This Buffett Rule is nothing but a campaign ploy. Class warfare at it's best. And when the Buffett Rule is voted on in the senate today, it will go down in flames because democrats won't vote for it either.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 8:56AM
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tobr24u(z6 RI)

At the moment it is a muddle class...

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 8:57AM
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esh_ga

I fully support tax reform and removal of loopholes as do most Democrats including the President.

But don't reform the tax structure so that people in the upper brackets pay less than they do now dollar-wise. Revenue needs to go up.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 9:09AM
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david52 Zone 6

The Ryan plan calls for complete elimination of taxes on capital gains and dividends.

Then goes on to talk about closing deductions - and guess what - the top most expensive deductions are the mortgage deduction, 401Ks, and employee health insurance business expense.

And there we have it - close those loopholes, and cut taxes completely on those whose income is derived from dividends and capital gains. You know, people like Mitt Romney, the Walmart Heirs, Warren Buffet, etc.

Some way to simplify the tax code, huh.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 9:37AM
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adoptedbyhounds

"And just why are we continuing down the road we are on?"

Because we have a Democrat president and Senate with an unshakable belief that government knows how to grow jobs and wealth through taxation, and that it's their job to "spread the wealth around." I once had a professor stay with a straight face that Communism works when given enough time. Personally, I think the nation has had about all the taxing and spending it can take.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 9:48AM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

The Ryan Plan follows the principle laid down by Libertarians that to rein in Big Government, you have to starve it but cutting taxes. Cutting taxes reduces the absolute volume of levies supporting government agencies and activities. Government responses: go into short and long-term debt to fund infrastructure projects and/or levy fees and fines on individuals and companies and/or raid the coffers of smaller governments, thus reversing the traditional direction of redistribution of tax revenues.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 9:50AM
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david52 Zone 6

I look at it more as a deliberate attempt to bankrupt the government, then loot the common resources - roads, national forest, minerals, libraries, airports, etc. for their own gain.

/cynic that I am

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:03AM
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david52 Zone 6

to add social security and medicaire. Get that money into private hands ASAP.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:08AM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

/cynic that I am

I'm going to sit at David's table; cynics united.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:11AM
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woodnymph2_gw

Please let me join you both.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:15AM
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elvis

David: "...then loot the common resources - roads, national forest, minerals, libraries, airports, etc. for their own gain."

That's a joke, right? I'm waiting for the punchline :-)

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:33AM
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inkognito

I think you just provided it El.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:50AM
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Circus Peanut

Don't forget the post office, David!

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 10:56AM
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elvis

Good morning, Ink.

Bruhahahahahaha :)

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 11:12AM
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marquest(z5 PA)

please can I join you at the /cynic that I am table. add health insurance.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 1:21PM
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jodik_gw

David, Nancy, may I join you, please?

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 2:15PM
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mrskjun(9)

Are you all joining David Axelrod? Thanks!

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 2:31PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I cannot speak for the others but I am joining both Davids'.

I know what kind of gov't I want and what is on the menu at the Republican table is not what I want set before me and my family. Hate, greed, lost opportunity, no post office, no affordable health care and last but not least bankrupt gov't, thanks to Bush and Co does not sound like such a good menu.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 3:45PM
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jillinnj

Oooh, oooh, please save me a seat at the cynic table!

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 4:03PM
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jodik_gw

Plenty of room, Jill... please join us! :-)

Skeptical and cynical have become part of my normal repertoire, as sad as that thought is. Still, it's necessary in this, the supposed "enlightened" century.

    Bookmark   April 16, 2012 at 8:31PM
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