Does insect killer interfere with milorganite or alfafa?

andyx123April 5, 2013

I plan to use ortho bug-b-gon insect killer on my lawn and applying alfafa or milorganite.

Does the insect killer interfere (affect negatively) the action of milorganite or alfalfa?

What options are there for "organic" lawn insect killer?

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

Ortho does not make anything acceptable to an organic grower. The Active ingrediant in Bug B Gone is a pyrethroid, a synthetic form of the pyrethrins that is a broad spectrum poison that will kill off many more then to 100 or so insects listed on the label including the Soil Food Web that might inhabit your soil.
Both Milorganite and Alfalfa depend on your Soil Food Web to be converted into plant nutrients so applying a poison to your soil will defeat the purpose of using those products.

    Bookmark   April 6, 2013 at 7:38AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

Ok, good thing I asked before applying!

So, how do I control pests more "organically" or organically friendly?

I see some ants, crickets, spiders and ticks. Mostly interested in preventing the ticks.


This post was edited by andyx123 on Sat, Apr 6, 13 at 9:45

    Bookmark   April 6, 2013 at 9:40AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dchall_san_antonio(8 San Antonio)

Beneficial nematodes are effective against ticks if you can catch the ticks before they climb out of the soil. BN only live in the soil.

Ants, crickets, and spiders are usually not a serious problem in an organic lawn. Generally there is a higher population of natural predators when there are fewer chemicals used.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2013 at 12:11AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

So, what does one do if they encounter a chinch bug infestation? I am currently starting the alfalfa regimen, but am prone to getting chinch bugs. What should we use to get rid of the infestation if we are currently using alfalfa pellets as well?

    Bookmark   October 1, 2013 at 12:36PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

What to do depends somewhat on where in the world you live and the type of grass and soil you have, but generally Cinch Bugs are much less of a problem in a good healthy lawn then it is a lawn that is grown using synthetic means.
Getting the soil into a good healthy condition so the grass will grow up strong and healthy is the best method of solving any insect pest problem. While some thatch (about 1/2 inch) is good for the lawn, too much contributes to the problem. Thatch buildup is an indication of using too much synthetic stuff to try and grow a lawn since over time those things disturb and disrupt the natural eco system.
Keep in mind that spraying any poison meant to control Chinch Bugs will also do great harm to any of the predators of those Chinch Bugs.

    Bookmark   October 3, 2013 at 7:33AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

Thank you Kimmsr for your response, however I have a few questions/concerns. For those of us who have just moved into a home and have just started to try to go the organic route this is difficult. My builder laid the sod on top of 4" of builders sand. Not much organic qualities in that. If I understand correctly, it honestly takes years of organic treatments to build up the organic matter in your lawn to make it healthy and to hopefully deter bad things from happening. In the meantime, however, I have gotten cinch bugs and had to place insect killer on those patches because the bugs would have eventually killed that area of my lawn. So, until I can get a "healthy" lawn after a few years of organic treatment am I stuck in limbo with not being able to apply any synthetic type of insecticide? Do I simply let the bugs take over, and replace sod?

    Bookmark   October 3, 2013 at 10:01AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

You do face a common dilemma. In your instance it could take years of applying compost and/or grains to begin to get adequate levels of organic matter into your soil or you could destroy the lawn you have, till in large amounts of OM, and start the lawn over.
Keep in mind that spraying poisons to control those Chinch Bugs will also kill off any beneficial insects that may be there to control your pests. To keep the beneficial insects around you need a population of the insect pests the beneficial insects prey on, so having an insect free yard is not a good goal.

Here is a link that might be useful: Chinch Bug control

    Bookmark   October 4, 2013 at 7:03AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dchall_san_antonio(8 San Antonio)

I would wait until you had an actual problem and diagnosed it before becoming concerned. Your old lawn may have been prone to getting chinch bugs, but your organic lawn may be strong enough to keep them away. If not, the beneficial nematodes sprayed into a very wet lawn should kill them. It's only ticks that climb out of the soil and avoid the beneficial nematodes.

Beneficial nematodes work by transmitting a disease to the insects.

    Bookmark   October 7, 2013 at 6:16PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Thatch Problem?
I'll be having the lawn aerated next week and I was...
overseeding help !
Hi All, I have a 5000 sft lawn with tall fescue, in...
PLEASE HELP - identify this weed
Hello all, I live in North Texas and just started organic...
Is It to Late in the to Apply Organic Fertilizers in Zone 5b
The condition of my lawn: The lawn is thick, but lacks...
High % OM & Compaction/Hydrotropic
My front & back lawn have been 100% organic for...
Sponsored Products
Crosley Bardstown Entertainment Center Stand - ST75-PA
$99.95 | Hayneedle
Under Floor Warming: ThermoSoft WarmWalk Warming Mats 20 ft. x 18 in. 120-Volt
Home Depot
Lasko 1850 18-inch Pedestal Fan with Remote Control
Sterling Finesse 5405-59-G75 59.625W x 58.3125H in. Boxwood Glass Bath Door - 54
$686.99 | Hayneedle
Bonnie and Clyde Sectional Sofa by Blu Dot
$2,798.00 | Lumens
Handheld LCD Remote Control by Quorum International
$123.00 | Lumens
Desk Lamps: 8.5 in. Pink LED Speaker Desk Lamp iHL106-Pink
$39.88 | Home Depot
Hunter Ceiling Fans Concert Breeze 52 in. Brushed Nickel Ceiling Fan 21629
Home Depot
People viewed this after searching for:
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™