Tollumnias

orchidnickAugust 3, 2014

Tollumnias deserve a home too. There are enough around, i thought to start a thread just for them. I'm sure Arthur will have some beauties to share., I have 3 open, 2 in spike and a whole bunch of young plants that should bloom in the spring if they survive my expert care.

The first one out of the gate will be Rrm Spunky x Rrm Misty.

Nick

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One flower. This one came from Mel Waki in Hawaii.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 3, 2014 at 7:06PM
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Toll Tequila Sunrise.. I posted it before but it is still blooming and I'll include it here.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 3, 2014 at 7:14PM
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One flower.

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    Bookmark   August 3, 2014 at 7:15PM
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Toll Golden Sunset 'Maioma Sunset'. The last one I have in bloom at this time. 2 more are coming.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 3, 2014 at 7:18PM
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One flower.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 3, 2014 at 7:19PM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Hi Nick, here are a few....

Rodrumnia Leanne Johnson

Rodrumnia Murramarang 'No.3'

Rodrumnia Willowbank Pilot

Tolumnia. Susan Perreira x Jubilee an unregistered grex

Tolumnia( Purple Envy x Sunset Fort) x Stanley's Passion Another unregistered grex

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inga007(Ont. 6a)

Nice show, guy's. My fave being: Rodrumnia Leanne Johnson .

    Bookmark   August 4, 2014 at 8:19AM
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allymarie(zone 10, So. Fl.)

Beautiful! They look so much like oncidiums, any relation to them?

Allymarie

    Bookmark   August 4, 2014 at 9:13PM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

They were once included with the Oncidiums. They have no pseudobulbs and thick channeled leaves. The species come from the Caribbean and maybe (just a maybe) from Florida.
Should be a doddle to grow in Florida.

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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Here are a few more of my babies.
Not good shape but still nice.
Tolumnia Golden Sunset x John Evans

Tolumnia Kioloa

Tolumnia Love That Red 'No.4'. Finicky to grow.

Tolumnia Memoria Ralph Yagi 'Lillian Oka'

Tolumnia Meroo 'No.2'

This post was edited by arthurm on Tue, Aug 5, 14 at 6:43

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shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b

Arthur, they are a doddle here in Florida! Had to look that one up and I like it. Is your climate the same as Florida? Or have you created habitat for them. Whatever you are doing it obviously is correct. Thanks for sharing. Nice pictures.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 8:19AM
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orchidnick

Thanks Arthur, I know you have many more. The thread will stop at 150.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 4:13PM
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Tolumnia Pretty n Pink

Nick

    Bookmark   August 6, 2014 at 3:07PM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

It is pretty and pink and it needs a rich godfather to fork out the Ten English Pounds to register the name.

    Bookmark   August 7, 2014 at 3:27AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Sadly, the rich godfather cannot rescue the fair maiden because as far as I can ascertain she has no parents.

Anyway, on with the thread that has no hope of reaching 150 posts.

Here is Tolu. Tom Wilson which came in a flask (I think) from Robert Perreira and somehow some plants ended up with a specialist Australian Native Orchid grower who lives in Dungog NSW. He gave me a plant as a gift many years ago.

Sadly, this orchid was bumped off by the myself and the guy who has a thousand of the little beauties in an attempt to divide the plant into two, so it would not be lost.
SOB!

    Bookmark   August 11, 2014 at 3:03AM
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inga007(Ont. 6a)

Very pretty and sad.

    Bookmark   August 11, 2014 at 8:52AM
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orchidnick

You have hundreds, some guy you refer to has a thousand. How many different names do you guys have or are you talking about endless repetitions of the same. Not that the same will look the same as plants with similar names can look very different.

I'm headed for 60 to 80 different strains but doubt that I'll find 100.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 11, 2014 at 10:01AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Nick, the endless repetitions of the same applies because there is a lot of variation when you make the cross A x B = C and you get hundreds of little babies to raise from the flasks if the cross is really viable.

Tolu. Golden Sunset is one where you see a many clones..... Tolu. Golden Sunset 'This', Tolu. Golden Sunset 'That' , Tolu Golden Sunset 'Taka' x 'Seka' etc. etc.

Haven't a clue how many Grexs (strains) I have but it is many many less than your 60 to 80.

The little babies are suffering. It is 7C. and raining outside and the heater in the "warm" glass-house is just about to turn on and warm them before sunrise, though i do not think we will see the sun today.

    Bookmark   August 11, 2014 at 2:19PM
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shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b

We have winter days here with the same conditions. For us it is extreme, but we have them. I turn the heater on at a higher temperature for the vandas. Does your glass house hold the heat from the warmth of the day?

    Bookmark   August 11, 2014 at 4:20PM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Glass-Houses are poor at retaining heat. Most "Vandas" might need minimum night temps of 60-70F.
Tolumnia seem to survive if they are dry (and cold) and the day temp lifts but my conditions are less than optimum.

    Bookmark   August 13, 2014 at 1:41AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Here are pics showing the variation within one cross which was made by a guy with many of the little beauties.
Tolumnia Alyshia, variations within a grex. Have several others that are different but no pics.

This idea of collecting one of everything goes out the window if you concentrate your collection in various areas

    Bookmark   August 13, 2014 at 2:26AM
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Tolum Pink Panther. This will probably be my last one this season, no more spikes coming.

Nick

    Bookmark   August 27, 2014 at 3:12PM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Very Nice. Another one bred by Robert Perreira the parents are Tolu. Purple Envy x Misty Pink.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2014 at 9:09PM
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A few are spiking, to my surprise. At this time of the year? This is Rrm Orchidom Alameda 'Beth' x (Orchidom Alameda HCC/AOS x Rrm Orchidom 'Dancer').

Nick

    Bookmark   November 14, 2014 at 10:19AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Beautiful colours! Sorry, I do not have any pics.

    Bookmark   November 14, 2014 at 6:51PM
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Tollum Private Stock x Rrm Just Dandy x Winding. Whoever comes up with these names should get a cultural award from AOS.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:29AM
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Another view.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:30AM
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One more.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:31AM
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Tolum Orchidom Good Works 'Alameda' HCC/AOS x Zel onusta 'Arbec' AM-CCM/AOS, another mouthful for a little plant.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:40AM
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Another view.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:42AM
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This one is much easier:

Rrm Orchidom Alamed Beth x (Tolum Alameda Jov 'Orchidom' HCC/AOS x Rrm Orchidom Dancer). Why not just call it : 'Sue' , that would work for me. First bloom on a tiny plant.

nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:45AM
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I just noticed that this is another plant with that name, will have to call them #1 and #2. They are seedlings so are different although with the same color patterns.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 3, 2014 at 1:47AM
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Rm Orchidom Alameda Beth x orchidom Dancer #3. It is the third seedling with this name that has bloomed. A picture of a previous bloomer is somewhere above.

Nick

    Bookmark   December 24, 2014 at 2:00AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

Very nice! Alas, I have no pics to post. You comment somewhere above about the quirky names is appropriate.
They do not follow the same pattern you see on other Genera.

    Bookmark   December 24, 2014 at 2:37AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

I have probably posted pics of this one before. Bred and registered by Moir. One of his weeds.
This clone produced by Jones and Scully. Had it for ages. Easy to grow and vigorous.
Tolumnia William Thurston 'Orchidglade'

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What a beauty

Nick

    Bookmark   December 25, 2014 at 1:35AM
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zzackey(8b GA)

So what does an oncidium look like if those are no longer classified as such?

    Bookmark   December 25, 2014 at 1:48AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

That is the 64 Dollar question, I do not know the answer.

In the great renaming one Genera that most orchid growers knew as Odontoglossum have been changed to Oncidium so it is impossible to quantify a typical Oncidium shape.

Colmanara seems to be now Oncostele and so on.

I should go through all the orchids pictured in the link below and check that the names are current, but I'm putting that little chore on hold, just in case the names all get changed again.

Here is a link that might be useful: Oncidiinae sub-tribe pictures

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Another one opened up. RRM Orchidom Happy Choice 'Alameda' HCC/AOS x Tulomnia guttata Orchidom CCM/AOS. Imagine crossing this one with another one with a name just as long and listing both in parenthesis!

Nick

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 12:06PM
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Another view.

Nick

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 12:08PM
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shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b

The tollumnia's are photogenic. This like several of my tollumnias has no tag. By chance if you know it please provide.

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orchidnick

Nice, but sorry, don't know the ID, maybe Arthur does.

Nick

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 10:13PM
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inga007(Ont. 6a)

Love that trio Orchidom Happy Choice 'Alameda'

    Bookmark   January 23, 2015 at 9:33AM
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shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b

Do you think the one above could be Rodrumnia Murramarang 'No.3' shown on this thread?

    Bookmark   January 23, 2015 at 9:48AM
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arthurm(Sydney, NSW AUST)

RRM Orchidom Happy Choice 'Alameda' HCC/AOS x Tolumnia guttata 'Orchidom' CCM/AOS. Orchidom are probably waiting on a wealthy orchid grower to shell out the ten English Pounds required to register a name.
Love the "Strawberry" markings.
Looked up Tolumnia guttata and it was described in 1994.

SM. I have no idea re. the name of your hybrid.

    Bookmark   January 25, 2015 at 4:58PM
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Tollumnia Firecracker 'Bang' x Tolu Pine Hollow 'BB', got it in a trade, don't know where it originated.

Nick

    Bookmark   January 29, 2015 at 1:13AM
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Another view.

Nick

    Bookmark   January 29, 2015 at 1:14AM
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T Private Stock x Rrm Just Dandy x Windsong, a bunch are breaking out in spike.

Nick

    Bookmark   February 16, 2015 at 6:26AM
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Tolum Golden Sunset

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Rrm Starlet 'Betty B' x Tol Bob Dugger 'Sundancer' HCC/AOS

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    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 8:58AM
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Rcdm Robson's Choice x Onc Richelle

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Tolum Firecracker 'Bang' x Tolum Pine Hollow 'BB'

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Tol Elfin Gem 'Kultan' x Rdm Peach Hollow 'Told Uso' AM/AOS

Nick

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 9:07AM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Would someone like to share in the expenses of mounting an expedition to Arthur's growing area ? We could do some plant collecting :) Needless to say, I can say that I wouldn't mind having almost any of these Tol.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 2:29PM
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germangirl (Eve, zone 9, Houston)

Here an Onc. Tequila Sunrise (plant looks like a Tolumnia but is a bit bigger) that looks completely different than Nick`s Tol. Tequila Sunrise.

(I`m still on the learning curve; how do I turn the picture? on my desktop it was displayed the right way)

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 3:46PM
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germangirl (Eve, zone 9, Houston)

And here is Tolumnia 'Rainbow Charming'

I am just amazed by the diversity of those cute little orchids.

(no idea why it rotated this one by 180 degrees?!)

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arthurm2015(Micro-Climate, Zone 10b Sydney, Australia)

Hi Eve, good to meet another grower of the little beauties. At least you are posting photos. I've been reduced to links. There is a big variation in the flowers of seedlings from a single crossing so that perhaps is why your plant is different to the one grown by Nick.

As far as crossing the big big puddle to view my collection....it would be a complete waste of time, Nick has more variety now. Also there are two sets of guardians of the gates. When my daughter went to the USA they confiscated her tube of toothpaste....it was 25ml too large. Lol.

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orchidnick

There is an easy way to get little plants across the pond. From AU to the US. The AU postal service has a little flat box specifically designed for discs. It's about 3" to 4" square and 1/2" tall. Since it's obviously made for discs, nobody ever checks them. Postage is a little more than $2.00 US. It will house a seedling plant without difficulty. An AU nursery, who shall remained unamed sent me dozends of their seedlings. that way That was 10 years ago, they are all either gone to the compost heap in the sky or in gorgeous bloom. When one of them blooms for the first time it's like Xmas as I can haredly remember what they ooked like when I bought them. Tolumnia could go the same way. I don't think it works the other way from the US to AU. The Gestapo at your border is more vigilant than the overfed bureaucrats at ours.

Nick

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 6:05PM
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germangirl (Eve, zone 9, Houston)

There might also be a difference in the parentage since his said Tolumnia and my says Oncidium (Tequila Sunrise).

I am originally from Germany and I go back with my daughter every summer so I know what you are talking about. No problem going to Europe or flying within Europe but once you are going to the USA it`s a whole different ball game. One year when my daughter was still small and kind of accident prone they confiscated my nail scissors (the blade is about 5/8 of an inch long) which I used to cut up band aids that you can buy in Germany by the meter. Did they really think you could kill anybody with those??

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 6:11PM
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germangirl (Eve, zone 9, Houston)

I bought two Tolumnias from a private seller in Bulgaria last fall and they got here no problem. It was not until a few month later when I was looking into buying some orchids from Australia that I realized that I had been lucky on my bulgarian purchase.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 6:20PM
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shavedmonkey (Harvey in South Fl.)Z10b

I just bought tol. tequila sunrise at our annual show last weekend.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 6:35PM
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Orchidom from the Dominican Republic has a nice selection. They wait until they have a huge shipment, bring it to Florida and then break it up and send it to the individual US customers from Florida.

Nick

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 6:40PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Except of course, Orchidom no longer sells retail :(

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 7:23PM
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That's what they say but I have talked to them and they will continue to sell retail.. Not 1 or 2 plants but certainly not the 200 plant limit they ware talking about. That's what I was told in Sept, I don't know if it has changed again.

Nick

    Bookmark   March 11, 2015 at 7:59PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Hmm, well if anyone knows, let us know...and I'll contact them!

Probably safer than raiding Nick and Arthur's greenhouses (buckshot).

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orchidnick

The above is #1

The one below is #the one below is #4

#6
#2

At the Santa Barbara Orchid Show there was a vendor from Taiwan who sold a new Tollumnia (new for me). Tol (Jairak Firm x Jairak Rainbow) is the only name used for this bunch of plants. I picked out 6 that had different looks.and simply added #1, #2 etc to the tag. 4 of the flowers survived the trip home in the back of a truck at 94F. This is the best demonstration of seedling diversity and how extremely different they can look.

Nick

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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Yep, you almost can make a total collection from that one cross.

    Bookmark   March 16, 2015 at 7:56AM
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A new one, Tolu Golden Sunset 'Waiomea' x Elfin Gem 'Kultnan'

Nick

    Bookmark   March 19, 2015 at 7:33PM
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aztcqn(10)

You all don't know how much I adore these little guys!!!!! I've been out of the orchid world loop. To me tolumnia is a surprise renaming for this little (once upon a time oncidium) orchid. Odontoglossum (another favorite patterned flower) is another surprise change.

Tollumnia has a nice ring to it. I stopped buying them because I couldn't get the culture / watering balance quite right. Too hot and dry and I don't have a greenhouse to control humidity. I didn't have the heart to condemn anymore.
I am living vicariously through this thread. Nick and Arthur your little gems are SO cute and beautiful. Shavedmonkey, that's a definite photogenic beauty.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 1:18AM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Ok, the enablement has succeeded, I placed an order for Tol (Elfin Gem x Golden Sunset) from Hausermann a few minutes ago. Jumping onto the Tolumnia wagon in a small way :)

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 6:06PM
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germangirl (Eve, zone 9, Houston)

I thought somebody else had already posted a Genting Volcano here before but when I looked today I couldn`t find it, so here you go:

Tolumnia Genting Volcano

    Bookmark   last Thursday at 6:51PM
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orchidnick

Here are the rest of Tol (Jairak Firm x Jairak Rainbow). That's one cross giving 6 different looks. The photogenic Tolums are like the stars in the Milky Way, unlimited variety.

Nick

#5

#3

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