Seed identification: what do I have?

dswsJanuary 6, 2014

As I said in my previous post, I just got back from Florida with some palm seeds gathered from the ground under fruiting trees or picked directly from the trees. This was in southwest Florida (Fort Myers and Palmetto).

One tree was at the pool of the motel in Fort Myers. I didn't get back down there to photograph it. It's just off the left side of this picture, but I think it's the same kind as the ones shown.
http://www.tnetnoc.com/hotelphotos/929/322929/2631759-MainStay-Suites-Fort-Myers-Pool-1-DEF.jpg

In case the picture isn't showing up, it's a small tree with pinnate fronds.

Here's the seed after the fibrous fruit is stripped away.

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

Here's the intact fruit.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 11:45AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

Next tree is in a parking lot. It's a medium-sized tree with pinnate fronds. Here's a picture of the fruit.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 11:48AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

Here's tree #2, the whole tree. Let's see if it's right-side-up this time.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 11:52AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

Yay, it's right-side-up. I have a closer view of just the crown of tree #2, but that pic looks good enough. On to tree #3, a medium-sized tree with palmate fronds. Here are the seeds (and some intact fruit).

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 11:55AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

And tree #3, the whole tree.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 12:00PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
statenislandpalm7a(7a)

#3 sabal palmetto

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 7:36PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

That's what I was guessing, for that one.

For #1, I've found an image of similar-looking fruit labeled as oil palm, Elaeis guineensis. But other images of oil-palm fruit have a much thicker flesh.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 8:17PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
rchawk3

Palm #1 is a Christmas Palm (Adonidia merrillii)

Palm #2 is a Queen Palm (Syagrus romanzoffiana)

Palm #3 is a Sabal Palm (Sabal Palmetto)

All three are pretty easy to grow from seed, especially the queen. If you use the baggie method your biggest problem is mold. Make sure you sterilize the media (moss or soil) in the microwave first. Also soak the seeds in some fungicide before putting them in the bag.

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 8:20PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

Thank you.

What's a good fungicide for this? Peroxide? Bleach? Tea tree oil? Garlic? Cinnamon? 1% clotrimazole ointment?

    Bookmark   January 6, 2014 at 11:04PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
tropicbreezent

I agree with the 3 IDs, 1 - Adonidia merrillii, 2 - Syagrus romanzoffiana, 3 - Sabal Palmetto.

I use sphagnum moss in bags with palm seeds and don't have problems with fungus/mould. And that's even with waiting a year for germination. Some palms are very slow to germinate, although I've found the Adonidia to be fairly fast, haven't tried the other 2.

    Bookmark   January 7, 2014 at 2:56AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

It looks as though two of my Christmas palm seeds are already starting to sprout during the soak.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 12:52PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

I've put some of my seeds in baggies of sphagnum, without baking it, and left others to be put in baked sphagnum. Of the ones put in baggies, I soaked some in 50% bleach for 20 minutes, and put others in the bags without bleaching them. I may kill some this way, but I have way more seeds than I would have room for palm trees as houseplants.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 5:05PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
patbatzu(10a)

3rd pick is 100% queen palm 5th pic appears to be a sabal palmetto

    Bookmark   January 14, 2014 at 12:28PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

A couple sabal palmetto and a couple Christmas palm are coming up. I planted one palmetto in a pot of the generic peat-based potting medium I had on hand. I plan to go buy something better to pot the others in tomorrow.

    Bookmark   February 24, 2014 at 7:42PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
Park_Bio

I agree with the identification of the third palm as Florida's state "tree," a cabbage palm (Sabal palmetto), and I'll defer on the identification of your second species (queen palm?). But, I suggest you may want to consider another possibility, solitaire palm (Ptychosperma elegans) for the identity of your red-fruited first species... it's very commonly planted (even becoming a bit of an invasive weed) in south Florida.

Here is a link that might be useful: Florida Exotic Pest Plant Council Lists of Invasive Plants

    Bookmark   February 25, 2014 at 2:59PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dsws

I wish I had photographed tree #1. The images I'm finding for solitaire palm seem less of a match than what I saw for Christmas palm. Still no sign of sprouting from the queen palm. Here's what stage the seedlings are at now.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 3:08PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Spindle palm pot size?
Hey guys. It's been hovering around 0F here, with jaunts...
Cally Paparelli
Mexican Fan Palm Frond Tips are Black/Brown
Hello, I noticed yesterday that my Mexican Fan Palm...
eemedrelyt
Bangalow Palm Separation - Triple Planted
hi, i had just separated Bangalow Palms that i just...
acaryofyllis
Sago Palm out of control!
I have 3 sago palms that started as nice small plants....
kkupsh
Survival of up rooted Palm.
I'm in coastal NC Z8b. Builders dropped off a up rooted...
camaross94
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™