Passiflora parritae, planted in the ground

mark4321_gwOctober 16, 2012

I bought a Passiflora parritae on Saturday and planted it in the ground Monday. I'm hoping to follow its progress here.

I thought this might be of interest to those who have never seen the plant, but only pictures of its flowers. I'm also hoping to hear from other people about their experiences growing the plant.

In general, I want to make it easy for people to ask questions such as:

Under what conditions can P. parritae be grown?

Where can the plant be purchased?

How is it propagated?

And so on.

One general question I have is where have people bloomed the plant? Is it even possible to go to a botanical garden outside of California and see it in bloom?

I'm not an expert on the plant, but I know people who are very knowledgeable about it, so in principle I can ask.

This past Saturday was a sale at Strybing Arboretum (SF Botanical Garden). They sold several of the plants (maybe between 5 and 10?) in 1 gallon pots, for $25. This is a little higher than they typically charge for Passifloras. Here's mine when I got it home. I am about 25 miles South of San Francisco. You can't tell from this photo, but the growing tips wilted slightly in transit.

Given the fact that it wilted a bit, and also that we are expecting a heat wave this week (highs Wed/Thu 88/90), I probably should have waited to plant it in the ground. Hopefully it will be OK. I may rig up something to shade it on Wednesday and Thursday.

I planted it right where the dirt part of the yard meets my patio. The patio area is only open on the front, so that it is cave-like. So the area should be heavily sheltered. I'm not exactly sure when the area gets sun or how much. However it is considerably less than full sun.

When I removed the plant to put it in the ground, half the soil fell away. I'm used to the 1 gallon plants from Strybing being fairly root bound. Also, the plant is good sized. So this was a surprise.

So far it looks great:

Perhaps I should mention that it typically takes several years until it starts blooming. However these are particularly nice plants, so hopefully it will be a little quicker.

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RetiredFlorida(9)

Nice plant! I did not expect it to be so tall when you said one gallon plant. So blooms on most passiflora take several years or just that individual plant?

I have a couple of purple plants that I was given that are about 16 to 20 inches tall.

Darren

    Bookmark   October 20, 2012 at 7:52PM
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mark4321_gw

Hi Darren,

The P. parritae is pretty typical in size for the Passifloras that Strybing sells.

I think P. parritae is notorious for taking a long time from rooted cutting to bloom. I did hear recently from one of the propagators at Strybing of a 1 gallon P. parritae blooming, just 5 or 6 months after being rooted. This was unique as far as I understand. I had also heard of P. antioquiensis usually taking several years to bloom, although I have increasingly heard reports of seedlings blooming at a year or less.

Here's a P. 'Mission Dolores' (P. parritae x P. antioquiensis) at the last Strybing sale, with 2 buds and a bloom in a 1 gallon pot. I've seen others this size in bloom.

I think many/most Passifloras will bloom at this size (or smaller).

Finally, here's a P. 'Amethyst'/'Lavender Lady' blooming not long after I rooted it, growing in a 10 oz. plastic cup, inside, on a windowsill. This was several years ago:

The P. parritae I planted looks great, in spite of our mini heat-wave this week. I think it only got upper 80s, and cool at night. There is new growth already visible. I'll let it grow another week or two and post another photo.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2012 at 10:47PM
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RetiredFlorida(9)

Mark,

That is just too cool. A bloom like that on such a small plant. I take it you're a collector. Care to share photos on how you utilize all these beauties? I'd love to see what I should be doing with mine. I put a purple in front of two trellises that I want to shield my trash barrels on the side of my home. It is also a location where I can control its growth without competing plants. But I just picked up a lady margaret yesterday and have a couple more suckers growing. I'd like to start collecting but have no idea on the best way to use them. I have a little under an acre, so space isn't an issue.

Darren

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 6:29AM
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mark4321_gw

Hi Darren,

I moved at the beginning of the year, and my yard is the oppposite of yours: only 20 x 20 ft. About half of that is patio, which is also filled with plants. So I need to cram things into the available space and where possible send them climbing up something.

I don't have the P. 'Lavender Lady' anymore, but I used to grow it in a hanging basket. That worked OK.

Right now I have the following in the ground:

P. loefgrenii x caerulea: climbing a fence.

P. 'Mission Dolores': climbing an unused sattelite dish, a tree Dahlia (Dahlia imperialis), and the wall of my patio area.

P. membranacea: small and will be on the fence and probably covering an unused storage shed.

P. loefgrenii: small, and on the fence.

P. parritae: new, and will climb the fence, walls, a new tree, and whatever else I let it

P. 'Raspberries and Cream': will climb strings/twine that I drop from above...

In pots:

P. loefgrenii (a second one): climbing a Rojasianthe superba.

P. 'Manta': very small, twining into nearby plants.

P. penduliflora: inside and tiny

P. sanguinolenta. Climbing a railing and the Rojasianthe.

P actinia: in a 4 inch pot and needs transplanting.

And a dead P. antioquiensis and P. herbertiana that need to be disposed of. I think that's about it.

So at this point, I need to be very aggressive about pruning. It's good that I like to propagate plants, otherwise there would be a lot of waste.

I also need to grow some more tall and thin trees, mostly in pots, for plants to climb. Some of the candidates (that already have) include another Rojasianthe, another Dahlia imperialis, Montanoa grandiflora, Chorisia speciosa, Iochroma grandiflora, Iochroma fuchsioides, Brachychition discolor. I'm not sure if any of those will work for the purpose but I'll find out. Not all of those are necessarily permanent from year to year, and not all are appropriate for vines to climb. Some may grow too slowly.

I have a lot of other plants, including many other vines, and I don't own a hose.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 1:06PM
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RetiredFlorida(9)

Want some oak trees, haha?. I am constantly mowing them down in the "wooded" area of my backyard.

Man I just love the people I meet on here because everyone does amazing things, sometimes in the smallest places. That is an impressive collection of vines for such an area that you have! If I grow these babies I want to make them stars and be sure they take front and center stage but want to do that tactfully. I have a lot of other plants in my butterfly garden but these passion vines will play a prominent role in my yard.

Did you send me an email today? I read something on my phone briefly while I was in the yard and tried to mark it as unread so I wouldn't forget it and think I may have deleted it?? Maybe I'm just too tired from gardening ;-)

Darren

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 5:54PM
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mark4321_gw

Darren, I did send an email. I'll send it again.

I think I probably have too many trees. The problem is that the vines will grow so much faster than them. Actually, the Rojasianthe (started as a 3 foot Annie's plant) and the Dahlia imperialis (started as a stem cutting) are both about 9 or 10 feet tall, and growing. Both were started this Spring.

I have a Chorisia seedling that I thought would be a good one for the P. parritae to climb. I had one before that grew to 6 feet in the first year, in a pot. Still, the vine will grow much quicker. When these are young, they grow mostly up, which is what I want.

Here's the seedling, with an odd split/diverged stem. I think this might look interesting when it gets older:

It came from a seed dropped by this tree, which grows at Wegman's Nursery in Redwood City. It's one of the few Silk Floss Trees in our area:

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 7:18PM
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RetiredFlorida(9)

Heh, oh its good to know I hadn't lost my mind........completely. Yeah, that was my other email account.

So, too funny, but I just bought this seedling Friday! I was walking around a nursery and saw a sign for this plant which I said "Kapok". We had two restaurants here named after this Kapok Tree, so it is well known. For its large tree and weird roots. I did not know this was also the beautifully blooming silk floss tree. I had to have one. Whether I'll ever see it bloom, I dunno.

But I do agree it would be a perfect tree for a passion vine!

Now for those who might think of growing passion vines, I was warned, some will grow and sucker and get away from and you'll wish you hadn't planted it. I believe it was incarnata. I notice you don't have that one. Mine is small and in the ground, should I remove it.........I've been told I'll regret having this one?

Darren

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 8:34PM
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mark4321_gw

Hi Darren,

It certainly looks like what I would call a silk floss tree, Chorisia (now Ceiba) speciosa.

However, I understand that there are two other trees which are called Kapok: Ceiba pentandra (I think never called Chorisia) and Bombax ceiba/malabaricum. I don't know offhand what those would look like. Did your plant come with a scientific name as well? I've actually never heard Chorisia/Ceiba speciosa called "Kapok", however a quick search suggests it's a common nickname.

However, a quick search also suggests that the restaurant was named after a Bombax ceiba. I don't know the Bombax tree, but apparently it blooms in the Spring, vs. the Fall for Chorisia/Ceiba speciosa. The Bombax flowers are red instead of pink.

There are also claims online that the restaurant Kapok is a Ceiba pentandra. It seems clear it's either that or the Bombax ceiba/malabaricum.

It looks like the leaves of Bombax ceiba and Chorisia/Ceiba speciosa are similar, so not being familiar with the Bombax, I doubt I could tell seedlings apart.

I find commmon names so much more confusing than the scientific ones!

What does the tag on yours say?

I've never actually seen P. incarnata in California in anyone's yard or at any nursery. I understand that Eric Wortman and Crystal Stone (Passiflora Society President/Treasurer, Eric is eristal on GW) have it--several varieties I think. I have heard it can be very difficult to eliminate once planted. I don't know if it's less popular in CA because of this, or because it's not native? If I had to guess it might just be because I understand it can be dormant for many months. Most people here see little reason to grow something that is dormant for half the year when other species/hybrids bloom nearly year round.

    Bookmark   October 22, 2012 at 2:05AM
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