Cretan Date Palm - Phoenix theophrasti

palmcityflApril 20, 2010

An Ebay vendor is selling Cretan Date Palm for $5 for 3 seedlings. The seeds came from Turkey. Cretan Date Palm is one of only two palms native to Europe, the other being European Fan Palm. I haven't seen this phoenix palm in any Florida nursery for sale. I have seven different types of phoenix palms and want to add this one to my collection. Any Florida growers have experience with this palm?

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anttisepp

I've been in Crete last summer and visited famous Preveli valley where small population of Cretan Date Palm grows. This palm is a diminished copy of usual Date palm, its leaves are slightly grey-bluish, very hard with sharp ends. I've got féw seeds just from the road and 10 of them gave me seedlings. Don't know how hardy this palm is, because it's really burning oven in summer and no frosts at all in winter in southern Crete.


    Bookmark   April 20, 2010 at 2:51PM
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butiaman(8a Douglasville,GA.)

I bought 3 phoenix theophrasti from the same seller on ebay.They are deasent seedlings,about 12" tall.2 of them are growing straight but one is badley curved.One thing atleast on mine,they have rust looking spots on them.I dont know if its some kind of fungis or what.They all are putting out new growth,I potted them up to 1 gallon pots.I bought them because there suppost to be the most cold hardy phoenix palm.I've had them about three weeks now.All in all they are worth the $1.99 I paid for them plus the $7.00 for shipping.I dont have any real long term experience with them.I thought I would just tell you what you will be gitting(what condition).I have mine in 3 hours of morning sun for now.I'm gradually getting them more use to the sun.As I said there all putting out new growth.I hope this helps some,good luck trying to find many people growing them,I couldent.

    Bookmark   April 20, 2010 at 10:03PM
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david_(10a)

I have one in a ten gallon or bigger that I would part with. Very cool looking palm to me.

    Bookmark   April 21, 2010 at 7:13AM
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butiaman(8a Douglasville,GA.)

Hey David,how much do you want for your palm?Where do you live at?Let me know.

    Bookmark   April 21, 2010 at 11:12AM
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david_(10a)

You can email me by going to my name and going to my home page. I tried yours but it seems you don't receive emails.

    Bookmark   April 21, 2010 at 1:09PM
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kinzyjr

Anybody happen to know where to get seeds for this particular palm inside of the USA??

    Bookmark   April 21, 2010 at 10:59PM
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butiaman(8a Douglasville,GA.)

I couldent find any seeds but ebay has seedlings cheep.I bought 3 of them for $1.99.I've had them about three weeks and they are growing at a pretty good rate.

    Bookmark   April 22, 2010 at 10:47AM
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stanofh

Berkeley botanical garden has this palm-in person they have colorful yellow/orange petioles on the fronds. They also sucker heavily with wicked thorns.

    Bookmark   April 22, 2010 at 9:08PM
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kinzyjr

Thanks for the advice. Will probably do the eBay thing.

    Bookmark   April 22, 2010 at 9:19PM
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david_(10a)

This is not a fast growing palm so if you can buy one with size you will be ahead of the game. They take about 5 yrs to get to ten gallon from the ebay size. I think I will plant mine which is 5+ yrs old.

    Bookmark   April 22, 2010 at 10:25PM
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kinzyjr

I figured they were. My true date palms are grown from seed and are about as old. A lot of roots for such a small plant.

    Bookmark   April 23, 2010 at 5:35PM
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palmcityfl

Just bought 10 Cretan Date Palm seedlings for $5 on ebay. That's 50 cents apiece for a palm not available in any Florida nursery.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2010 at 4:13PM
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neonrider(USDA 8A ^ Sunset 31 ^ Mid-SC)

They are hardy to zone 10 and they don't like humidity or rain. Get all spotty and rusty from rain. No wonder none are found in Florida. Try growing them in southern AZ and southern CA. I planted a couple in zone 8B and they died from rain and cold in "winter" exposed to a couple nights of light freeze. If you protect them from humidity and rain you can ggrow them in SoFL.

    Bookmark   November 4, 2012 at 12:53PM
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kinzyjr

I now have 8 of them growing here in Lakeland. We're certainly a solid zone 9a, but definitely not close to a zone 10a like St. Petersburg, or the more southerly locales.

Mine have grown pretty well with minimal care. They just sit out in the sun and put leaves out, not to mention the usual 20 feet of roots for a 2 foot plant. I've heard that they typically sucker early and often.

My seeds were from a seller in Australia. I bought 35 seeds, but about 20 of them succumbed to mold. When you start them, make sure the dirt is barely moist.

    Bookmark   November 6, 2012 at 12:42AM
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