AmyinOwasso/zone 6b(6b)July 14, 2014

I haven't grown corn or beans in 30+ years. I belive they failed that year anyway. I have a few popcorn plants and a bunch of pole beans that were supposed to climb up corn and okra. I have already made note of the fact that beans grow faster than either. A volunteer mustard plant had come up deep in the bean jungle and bolted. Something ate all the seed pods and left behind frass. It doesn't look like it was interested in the beans. Something also left frass in one of the corn stalks. The rain we had last night knocked the stock over, or I would not have seen it. The rest of the corn is too tall for me to see easily. Are catapillars and worms the only thing that leaves behind that kind of mess? I killed a small grasshopper that was on the beans. I can try bt, but there is more rain in the forecast.


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Amy, I have a small 2 liter Solo sprayer that I use for small spray jobs. I also have a squeeze bottle (like mustard is in) that I also use on small jobs. You can get BT in powder or liquid. You can use either method to place a small amount of spray or powder right in the top of a corn stalk or on the end of the ears. I had rather not use anything, but sometimes you have to if you want a harvest.

I don't have good luck with corn late in the summer, just too many insects.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 1:16PM
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Okiedawn OK Zone 7

Grasshoppers leave frass behind. I don't notice it much when there's only a few grasshoppers around, but when there's a lot of them feeding on plants, the frass is really obvious.

I used a small sprayer like Larry mentioned for spot spraying a specific area that has a problem. Yes, you might have to respray in a few days after it rains, but it still would be a good idea to go ahead and spray Bt on the corn ears in order to stop whatever is eating them.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 2:27PM
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AmyinOwasso/zone 6b(6b)

There aren't any ears yet, I didn't get it planted as early as I wanted. It was kind of an impulse, to give the beans something to climb. I am being punished for not thinning the beans, I can't see into the bed well and they are tangling up with each other. It is also a round bed, which I find annoying for some reason. Seems harder to reach into and work with in general, though logic tells me it is no further to reach than the square beds. I will go spray bt, and look for more grasshoppers. Thanks for the info.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 3:18PM
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Lisa_H OK(7)

I have Bt in a powder form (and the mustard like bottle). Some kind of moth (genista I think) has been attacking my baptisia plants for the last couple of years. They killed two bushes before I finally gave in and started using the Bt. I don't like using it because I garden for butterflies, but it does work.

(despite the title, I have not squish remorse for these! )

Here is a link that might be useful: Squish Remorse (or not!)

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 3:28PM
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AmyinOwasso/zone 6b(6b)

I'm not sure that I didn't see a moth like the one in your sqish remorse link today, too, hmm, where...on the cukes? I didn't know what it was. I like butterflies, and I have some milkweed to plant in the fall, but they need to stay away from the veggies. I really have no problem with bt on the veggies. The critters notice when things are just about to get productive...and boom, they get most of it! Or the mustard seed...I was going to collect it, it was an asian mustard green that I liked, especially since the spinach didn't grow.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 4:24PM
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lisa_h, I planted a yellow baptisia last year and have been fighting the genista from mid-Spring to now. I had planned on having a pretty shrub in that spot, but am about ready to dig it up and toss it. I plant for butterflies, too, and don't want to use anything that could harm them. I have some grandkids that like to squish, but there are hundreds.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 10:52PM
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