Butch 'T' Trinidad Scorpion

gltrap54March 10, 2012

Sorry, this is a dupe from the vegetable forum........

They're telling me 30 days to germination. Pepper folks chime in please.

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ottawapepper

I had 40% germination rate in eight days (8 sprouts out of 20 seeds) this past month. The starts were in commercial seed starting mix on a mat at a temp of 85F.

30 days seems long.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 8:27PM
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ottawapepper

Just curious, where did you get your Butch T seeds?

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 8:30PM
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romy6(9)

I have had some take 5 days and others take 35 days. Depends on the individual.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 8:36PM
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ottawapepper

Romy, you're more patient than me. My seeds get 14 days to produce max, then they're toast ;-)

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 8:42PM
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esox07

Yah, all my Butch T's came up in about 6 or 7 days. I plant 4 seeds per container and cull the extras after a while and if one or two don't come up in any given container, it is no big deal as I still have a couple. But I think every Butch T seed (12 in all) sprouted within 10 days. 83 degrees on the heat mat.
Bruce

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 8:58PM
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ottawapepper

Bruce,

All 12 in 10 days, where did you source your seeds?

Bill

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 9:06PM
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gltrap54

ottawa pepper, the seeds came from Pepper Joe's......

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 9:18PM
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esox07

Trade with list member:
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Posted by armac1965 none (My Page) on
Fri, Jan 20, 12 at 21:55

Bruce, I must be having trouble with my email. Shoot the previous email to xxxxxxxxxxxxx. Also include your address I can spare a few Butch t seeds for you.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 9:20PM
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ottawapepper

Handsome54,

Pepper Joe's is a pretty reputable source amongst a few forums. Are you using heat mats for germination? 78-88 F is the optimum temp for max germination.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2012 at 9:34PM
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ottawapepper

Handsome54,

I got an email from a friend asking if I was thinking about another ... Joe, yep, my mistake.
My friend pointed out that there are mixed reviews on this vendor. I haven't personally dealt with Pepper Joe. If your seeds don't sprout you may want to try another source.

My apologies if I misguided anyone.

Bill

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 11:55AM
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Edymnion(7a)

Yeah, superhots take a long time to germinate. My butch T's/7pots/bhuts that I started for my "main plants" are at about 2 weeks now, no sprouts. They'll get another 2 weeks before I try again.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 1:03PM
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gltrap54

No problem Bill...... I only bought one packet, just out of curiosity. One issue that's been raised here is temps. I had these peppers in my chamber along with several other vegetable seeds. Digital therm set around 70F, obviously not warm enough for hot peppers. I did have one seed germinate today.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 2:39PM
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esox07

They will germinate at 70. I didn't use heat last year and did fine. Mid 80's is better however. And I also got my seeds from Pepper Joe last year. I got what I asked for. No complaints here.
Bruce

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 8:00PM
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gltrap54

Thanks Bruce! I feel better knowing that.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 8:54PM
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ottawapepper

Good to know about your experience with Pepper Joe Bruce. Thank you.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 9:42PM
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esox07

All those Bhut seeds I have been sending out came from plants that were grown from Pepper Joe seed.
Bruce

    Bookmark   March 11, 2012 at 9:53PM
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armac1965

Bruce, glad the butch t seeds worked out for you.

    Bookmark   March 13, 2012 at 9:47PM
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esox07

armac1965: they are still floundering with all my other seedlings this year. I have been struggling all spring. But the Butch T seem to be doing as good or better than all the rest. The one good thing is that they never turned purple like all the rest and didn't prematurely drop their seed leaves.
Bruce

    Bookmark   March 13, 2012 at 9:54PM
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fusion_power

I accidentally left the greenhouse closed today and the sun came out from behind the clouds around noon and the temperature went up to 123 degrees. Fortunately I had watered everything very well yesterday so the plants were fine. I opened the door and ventilated the place down to about 90 degrees for the rest of the day.

BUT

The Chinense peppers grew up to 2 inches by the time the day was over. It was amazing to see them perk up and green up so well.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2012 at 12:08AM
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schism(6)

I got my Butch T seeds from pepperlover.com. Great germination rate. Bought those and Red Devil Tongues...also great germ rate. Plus some freebies..red hab seeds

    Bookmark   March 14, 2012 at 8:31AM
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rlin

Hi, everyone,
I've germinated all seeds in a plate for 13 days and they did come out yesterday.
Could someone tell me when I have to seperate them into individual pot?

    Bookmark   March 14, 2012 at 3:36PM
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ottawapepper

schism,

Thanks for mentioning pepperlover.com. I had seen their name before but never took the time to check out their site, quite an interesting selection.

Something that really impressed me was them giving the back story and credit for a couple of varieties they're selling; Butch Taylor as the originating source for the TS Butch T variety and John Fiedler as the source for the Trinidad Scorpion FG. While the story behind the Trinidad Scorpion Butch T is relatively well known amongst chile lovers, the lesser known Trinidad Scorpion FG background isn't. Nice to see fiedlermeister get props.

I'll definitely be firing an order their way when I'm stocking up on a few new varieties for next year.

Bill

p.s. I don't agree with their description of the FG taste ;-)

    Bookmark   March 14, 2012 at 4:55PM
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Armageddon

anyone have any Butch 'T' Trinidad Scorpion seeds that can share still have lots of room in my garden also have some seeds i can share can contact me at pepperhead@letitflowcreations.com

    Bookmark   March 15, 2012 at 10:42AM
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Edymnion(7a)

I got my butch T seed from hippy seed company down in Australia. I'm hoping the seeds will have soaked up some of that Australian "everything wants to kill you" essence.

But I got my Douglah seed from pepperlover.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2012 at 11:54AM
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J0el87

My seedling butch t just came up today. i put them out in the sun even though the seed pod is still over the leaves. I am curious as to if i should keep bringing it in at night on the heat mat and how cold will a seedling be able to withstand. i'm new to growing superhots so im trying to maximize my success rate since the seeds i got have mostly been a bust.

    Bookmark   May 22, 2013 at 1:16AM
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chilliwin(EU DK 7)

The Pepperlover is very reasonable seeds source, 99% germinated for me.

30 days would be maximum days for germination. My Butch T started germination just like other members mentioned.

Caelian

    Bookmark   May 22, 2013 at 1:32AM
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