This is why they call it "The Zombie zone"

jimhardyNovember 24, 2012

Look at the forecast at the end...I am sure this will

be changed but if it did hit 72F that would be a an all time record for December.....

fine with me if this holds,not bad for December.

Today

Partly Cloudy 39 �F

Partly Cloudy

Tonight

Mostly Cloudy 30 �F

Mostly Cloudy

Tomorrow

Partly Cloudy 46 : 34 �F

Partly Cloudy

Monday

Chance of Snow 36 : 21 �F

Chance of Snow

20% chance of precipitation

Tuesday

Partly Cloudy 39 : 28 �F

Wednesday

Clear 48 : 36 �F

Thursday, 29

Mostly Cloudy

54 : 34 �F

Precipitation

0%

Friday, 30

Partly Cloudy

54 : 39 �F

Partly Cloudy

Chance of

Precipitation

0%

Saturday, 1

Partly Cloudy

59 : 54 �F

Partly Cloudy

Chance of

Precipitation

0%

Sunday, 2

Chance of a Thunderstorm

72 : 50 �F

Chance of a Thunderstorm

Chance of

Precipitation

20%

Monday, 3

Chance of a Thunderstorm

66 : 46 �F

Chance of a Thunderstorm

Chance of

Precipitation

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

its looking pretty gloomy for the next week here nothing above 50 and the lows down around 25-30. wish that storm would come through here and give us another warm spell.

    Bookmark   November 24, 2012 at 11:20AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
tropicalzone7(7b)

Pretty cold week here. Most days will be 10 degrees below average which means daytime highs only in the low 40s! That's pretty typical for mid winter. It's definitely cold out there now. November is going to end a bit below average and I wouldnt be surprised if the trend continues into December.
Hopefully we wont be seeing temperatures this far below average when winter is really here because if we do, then that will be a repeat of 2010-2011 with a week or 2 of days below 40 with many struggling to get above freezing!
-Alex

    Bookmark   November 24, 2012 at 2:46PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
LagoMar(USDA 8/AHS 7)

Its been an early winter in the east. Tonight many areas inland Virginia and Nc will receive their first freeze of the season. Here along the coast we will drop into the 30s for the first time this season.

    Bookmark   November 24, 2012 at 3:34PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
tropicbreezent

I certainly don't envy you your temperatures. The long range forecasts have been up and down all over the place with the 'on again/off again' el nino. We were forecast below average rainfall, but now they say it'll be average, although so far it's been above. But I'm not complaining about that.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 12:33AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
garyfla_gw(10 Florida)

Hi
have been running 5/10 degrees below normal though it's not fallen below 52 though to the west it was 10 degrees colder lol Main complaint has been the incessant wind often reaching 40/50 mph . Got a bit of damage from Sandy
but won't complain after looking at the pix of the northeast. My weather guru is predicting a way below normal winter for all of florida Hope he's wrong lol gary

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 6:08AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Looking like some of the east will get colder still.

One week ago Accuweather had us basically(with few exceptions)
below freezing for a month and then they change a lot of it to 40s and 50s.
Not complaining but it strikes me as unprofessional to put out
a 25day forecast when your forecasting is so poor.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 9:53AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
chadec(N.C.7b)

Looks like our lowest temp before Christmas is going to 22F. So maybe I'll make it to Jan. before having to protect anything. It really looks like a dry winter for us too. But I to have learned its better to look out the window than listen to the weatherman.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 10:00AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
LagoMar(USDA 8/AHS 7)

Jim accuweather is least accu of all. btw much of the east coast had its first freezing weather last night from jacksonville fl to Charles sc to Atlanta and Norfolk va. In va bch we had areas below freezing although in my area it was 33 and none of the plants were affected. I have bananas hydrangia lantana etc and none were touched. they've lived to see another couple of weeks hopefully.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 3:46PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

That same air mass had us 18F the other morning.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2012 at 6:04PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Forecaster low(I said this wouldn't happen again) 16/18F was actually 8F at the airport
and 14F at my home-The bigger Trachy was out,I put a sweater around the crown -
the others were covered and unheated,:roll:

I took some 8F pics this morning of it and the Needles and Sabals,
will compare here later in the afternoon when temps are above freezing.....ideally :?

http://www.wunderground.com/US/IA/Fairfield.html?bannertypeclick=big2

    Bookmark   November 27, 2012 at 9:43AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

above freezing huh...good luck with that :-) . They forcasted snow last night but all we got was rain. ended up around 30 this morning. haven't had anything in the teens or acually below 25 so far this year. It just hits you hard and fast jim, Im thankful im a bit further south. IDK if I could deal with single digits and its not even x-mas yet

    Bookmark   November 27, 2012 at 4:04PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Here is the Fortunei,the one bent frond is from the wind.
8F at the airport/14F here - pictured

Needle palm

S.Lou

Heres the Trachy at 37F

S.Lou

One suspect right now-

Notice the leaf in the 11/12 o'clock area,the blades have not opened as much as the others.
If this is from cold damage there will be a very deep spear-pull as this is the 4 leaf -or so- from the center one..

They all seem to have recovered-forecast is for 50s/60s by the weekend then back to 50s.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2012 at 9:59PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

we hit 19 last night and I was really amazed dosen't do that till mid jan usually. Yours all seemed to pull through nicely. The S. Lou is really alot tougher than I thought. what type is that you figure for a spear pull another fortuni? can't wait to get some palms out next year. you plan on covering those at all later in the season? LIke to see a fully buttoned up yard pic about mid jan.

    Bookmark   November 28, 2012 at 4:44PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
LagoMar(USDA 8/AHS 7)

Wow Mike 19 is insane for November! For the east coast anyway. You're in Jersey right?

    Bookmark   November 29, 2012 at 7:12AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

All the smaller palms have pulled except 2 Tesan and one little Takil.

Just to dang small...those little spears freeze up to fast.

Oops,forgot the 2 Chamaerops and the 2 Princeps are fine.

BTW

Another leaf on the Fortunei^(the one in the 2-3 o'clock area)has started to fold
up it's blades,a bad sign as water is not getting to it, probably in for another deep socket pull...this one
was recovering nicely from last winters spear-pull,just have to keep an eye on it.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2012 at 9:55AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

No im in northern ky/southern OH last night it was only 21 so were good. Jim I was always under the impression once the spear had pulled the plant was done but you have changed all that. once the spear pulls you cut it back to almost ground level correct? and then it produces a new spear?

    Bookmark   November 29, 2012 at 4:34PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Not necessarily...but yes.

The ones I did that on made it because the bud was alive deep inside the trunk.
On a bigger palm that could be a foot away from the top and it would die if cut below that.

All the other pullers(quite a few after yesterday)have been dusted with copper fungicide,they usually recover in April or May.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2012 at 7:32PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

besides the truley tropical is there anything you think is just a flat out NO to try inground in your zone or mine? I was really thinking of maybe a Jubaea chilensis or somthing with a nice trunk..just thinkin out of the box. I figure unless it is a rainforest palm or somthing with enough protection stuff should make it here.

    Bookmark   December 3, 2012 at 5:21PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Anything that cannot take single digits....or at least come back from it.

    Bookmark   December 4, 2012 at 10:55AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

well that sure limits the field Jim LOL I thought you were a pioneer!

    Bookmark   December 4, 2012 at 5:30PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

I think everything but the Washy and Butia have seen single digits so,that is a pretty good sized list of palms....

Thought about trying a Jubaea but felt it would be to big a beast to protect in time and maybe too slow?

I guess the real reason I said single digits is that it happened(5F) in March last year and this fall 8F and the palms that are larger made it through with flying colors.

Interestingly in both cases,the temps returned to the 70s within days last March and this December!

    Bookmark   December 4, 2012 at 8:16PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
wetsuiter(7b/8a)

And here I thought it was "The Mummy Zone" by the way you mummy-wrap your palms and cacti.

    Bookmark   December 4, 2012 at 9:47PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
fr8train(4 Wyoming)

It's amazing how big your palms have gotten Jim, they look great.

    Bookmark   December 9, 2012 at 10:54PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Thanks Fr8t good to see your still out there.

    Bookmark   December 10, 2012 at 11:34AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
tropicbreezent

I guess one of the advantages of that sort of a climate is plant pests are killed off by the cold. Gives you a chance for a fresh start. I cut off affected parts of plants, put them in a plastic bag and place them in the freezer. But I don't know how I'd cope with having to protect whole plants from the cold. It must be a pretty daunting task.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 4:44AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

It can be,especially when you really lose interest in the fall.
Contrast that to the spring when you want to plant all your potted palms and you have a problem.

I still have not covered the Sabals or Needles but it looks like
a big storm could be brewing for mid week-time to get'r done.

In regard to bugs,I can't seem to keep the WSM away in winter time indoors
so,I planted one of my Martianus in November,it is really
growing and has opened a new leaf,while the other one inside
is covered with mites again.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 9:38AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

You have you had single digits already right Jim? My needle has been covered for a few months now didn't know they could take single digits with out fronds burning. good to know about the sabals as well

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 10:37AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
subtropix

Really mild here now. In fact, I feel a bit of Spring fever. In the ground, I have Trachys (fortunei and wagnerianus), Sabal minor, Needle, Med. fan, and a couple of Washys (not sure which, maybe hybrids). I was planning on eventually having to cover the Washys, but don't have need through extended. Another big, East coast storm is looming but stays mild. I enjoy X-Mas whether it is GREEN or WHITE. Happy Holidays all!

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 1:07PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
tropicbreezent

The main climate change here is between wet and dry. Preparations involve checking irrigation lines before the dry sets in.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 6:42PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Mike

The single digit(s) (8F) was at the airport north of here...
only about 3 miles away.

Lowest in my yard was 14F so far.....looks like a major winter storm setting up here late week.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 9:09AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

its nice and warm was only down to 45 last night but its been raining what seems like 2 weeks solid...

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 10:01AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Looks like 50s possible here Wednesday and then possibly a Blizzard followed by a rainstorm around X-mas.

These are pretty low confidence forecast right now-but getting interesting none the less.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 11:42AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
InsanePalmNinja

Sabal Palms in General can man Handle those temps for at least 3 day before it gets to them. Luckily For me its doesn't get a cold as -15 thank Allah for that. still too cold for my Liking those. Indiana Zone 6a has been odd to normaly cold at the end of November and into December nows its only gets to 20s at the Coldest. its Freaking me out a bit.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 2:57PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
miketropic

where you located in Indiana?

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 6:16PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimhardy

Thanks Alla

Looking at possible Blizzard conditions here Wens/Thurs and then possibly another big storm after that-if you are a fan of watching the weather-it looks like the show begins Wednesday!

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 7:40PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Sabal palm and fertilizing bermuda?
Hi, i have been getting alot of help just reading through...
gardy78
Need help identifying a cycad
I bought a cycad of unknown species and am trying to...
Yuri Diomin
How to graft palm?
Hi How to graft palm?
iskhan
Me little plants just atsrting out
If you look close you can see the Y.Rostrata,variegated...
jimhardy
butia planting question in 6b
I'm expecting my butia delivery on march 21st to plymouth...
finn6b
Sponsored Products
AICO Furniture - Villagio Eastern King Panel Bed - 58000EKPS3-44
Great Furniture Deal
Tangier Taupe 10 1/4" Wide CFL Bronze Ceiling Light
Lamps Plus
Walnut Kids' Chalkboard Desk & Chair
$89.99 | zulily
Baldo Bed
| Italy Design
Igea 2 Trim with Housing by Leucos Lighting
$156.87 | Lumens
Marble Console Table 47"x16 Travertine - BELLAGIO
Living'ROC
New 2' 10" X 2' 10" Heriz Serapi Round Hand Knotted Red Wool Area Rug H3238
BH Sun Inc
Bruck | Queeny Down Pendant Light
$165.75 | YLighting
People viewed this after searching for:
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™