Aji Limon - Aji Lemon - Lemon Drop

esox07 (4b)June 12, 2014

OK, I grew a few "Aji Limon" plants this year. THinking of making some Jelly with them. But after trying to find out the heat level on them, the best I can find is 10,000 to 30,000 SHU. Is that about right?

And is the Aji Limon and the Aji Lemon and the Lemon Drop all the same? Or are they all different or some the same, some different? This seems more confusing than the Sweet Banana, Hot Banana, Hot Hungarian Wax situation.
Thoughts????
Bruce

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scott123456(5)

I don't know Bruce, I had the same question. I have even seen an "Aji limon drop." Others have said there is a difference, but my guess would be that it probably depends just as much on where you get your seeds, as what they are called. I am growing an aji limon this year and will try a lemon drop next year and compare the two, but then again it would be two different seed sources. If you can find a company that sells both aji limon and a lemon drop (I have not) then your in business to compare the two.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 11:20PM
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ronnyb123(Zone 9)

This is one of those debates that could go on and on. LOL

Scott... Rainbow has both, says 1 is chinese, 1 is Baccatum so maybe if the info is correct, they are different.

Lemon drop
C.Baccatum
Tall plant produces good yields of 7 cm long by 1.5 cm wide hot pods mature from green to yellow.
Our price $3.00
Limon
Capsicum chinense
Plant produces good yields of very hot 1.5- 2" long by 0.5-0.625" wide medium thick flesh, plant have white flowers & ripen from green to yellow.
Origin:Peru
Our price $2.00

Here is a link that might be useful: Rainbow Chili- Limon or Lemon

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 12:25AM
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scott123456(5)

Hmmm I have never heard of either of them being a chinense variety before only Baccatum. I am growing two aji limonâÂÂs and they looks nothing like any of my C. chinense varieties. I guess this just adds to the mystery. Maybe they are two (or more) different peppers and people donâÂÂt know which one they have, so they call them by the wrong name during trades?? So you have in your mind what an aji limon is, and I have in my mind what a aji limon is, but one of ours is actually a lemon drop. If they are different peppers, I am sure they are getting misrepresented as the other names all the time. Just a thought. Thanks Ronny I think I am going to buy some of each seed and try it.

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 1:37AM
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sjetski(6b NJ)

Bruce, I'm going to say that the answer is all of the above, in some ways.

I grew one out of a seed packet a few years ago, lemon something, I think it was Burpee, that plant was definitely a Chinense. The pods even resembled a Fatalii, more so than what was presented on the packet. As for the other nicknames, those will be Baccatums. Some of plants/pods will be the same, others won't. And there will be different lineages so even the same type start looking different. Some will be mislabeled trades, some will be open pollinated crosses.

The problem is that there are so many Baccatums types that resemble them (dozens of the yellow ones) that i don't think the mess will ever be sorted out.

Steve

This post was edited by sjetski on Mon, Jun 16, 14 at 18:47

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 10:33AM
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esox07 (4b)

Yah, I guess the name really wont matter. What matters is what I have and how they taste. If I like them, I will keep seeds and then, just for the fun of it, I will name them something else entirely. hahahhaha
"Hot Peruvian Lemon"
I will be selling seeds for a buck a piece this fall if anyone is interested.

Bruce

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 12:20PM
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PunkRotten(9b)

I think all 3 are the same plant just people mixing up the names. However, depending where and how it is grown it will have some differences. They are not very hot but they do have a good amount of heat. So I say the estimate on scovilles is probably right. I got a plant on it's 3rd year now.

    Bookmark   June 14, 2014 at 5:09AM
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esox07 (4b)

Thanks everyone. Yep, I had two pods go ripe early and ate one yesterday. It had some heat but nothing the average chili eater would worry about. It did have a unique flavor. I guess that it was the "citrus" flavor everyone talks about. I am going to make a batch of Jelly out of them when I get enough ripe ones. I have three plants going and although they are not real big plants, they do put out a whole lot of pods.

    Bookmark   June 14, 2014 at 9:11AM
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scott123456(5)

Does yours look like this? This is supposed to be an aji limon

    Bookmark   June 14, 2014 at 11:29AM
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PunkRotten(9b)

Mine is a huge bush that fills the whole pot. It makes more peppers than I can pick.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 3:06AM
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DMForcier(8 DFW)

Scott, that does look like lemon drop, but much smaller than it will get. The bush gets large but grows low - mine cascaded out of the pot and had to be set up on something to keep it off the ground. It took its sweet time ripening, but then produced enough pods for me, the neighbors, and half the town.

Notice how little it resembles a C.chinense - thus the skepticism you see here about any "lemon" being chinense.

Dennis

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 11:46AM
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maple_grove_gw

Don't forget Aji Limo! Another distinct pepper that (to me at least) adds to the confusion. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, 'Hot Lemon' is the name which Burpee slapped on Aji Limon, but the others are all distinct. More info at the earlier thread I've linked below.

Alex

Here is a link that might be useful: Earlier thread on this topic

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 12:37PM
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esox07 (4b)

Here is a recent photo of one of my "Aji Limon's".
Bruce

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 3:44PM
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sjetski(6b NJ)

Very nice Bruce, lots of pods for it's size. I can only imagine what it will look like come late August.

And since it's in a bucket, you can overwinter it. Next year you can change the name to Aji Limon Mammoth, just imagine what the seeds will be worth :-P

Steve

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 7:03PM
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obchili

Awesome looking plant there. I too cannot believe the number of pods you got there. Enjoy it.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 9:20PM
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esox07 (4b)

I have two others. Both of the others have less peppers but one had two ripe peppers already. But while I was away camping, we had some strong winds and a plant on the railing above it fell right on it. Broke it right in two. I had to ditch one of the branches but the other one is OK.
Bruce

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 10:30PM
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PunkRotten(9b)

My Aji Limon is thin-walled and few seeds. Your pods look like what grow on mine. When I bite into one it is a little watery and has a somewhat lemon flavor and has a heat that creeps up. Not very hot like I say, but it has a decent bite. it is hotter than a Serrano.

    Bookmark   June 17, 2014 at 11:57PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Bruce, I think your question added more to the confusion. That is at least to me.

First off, "Aji" (if I understand it correctly) just means "Chili" pepper.

Second: the term "Lemon/Limon" just refers to the color resemblance to "Lemon".

I also bought some Burpee seeds called "Aji Limon" But i could not get it going. Then I bought a plant called "Lemon Drop" which is growing now. I too had previously the impression that it has "lemony" flavor. But I don't think so now. Maybe I am wrong.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2014 at 12:27AM
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esox07 (4b)

Yah, I have a lot of confusion when it comes to peppers. I have two Thai varieties are growing completely different than expected. I won't even bother with the Thai Hot, Thai Chili, Thai Dragon, etc.... question.

Bruce

    Bookmark   June 18, 2014 at 12:55AM
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peppers_galore

Here are a couple of pics from some I have growing. The first two are from a seed swap here earlier in the year labeled Aji Limon. The second two are from a vendor labeled Aji Limon Peru.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 12:53AM
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peppers_galore

Pods

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 12:54AM
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peppers_galore

Aji Limon Peru

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 12:55AM
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peppers_galore

Pods.

I can get shots of the flowers if anyone wants to see those as well.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 12:56AM
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tomt226

Those Lemon Drops PRODUCE!
Got five plants and they're producing a double handfull a day. About like a standard Serrano as far as heat is concerned. Citrusy flavor too. Made some salsa yesterday with Yellow Boy 'maters.
3-medium yellow tomatoes, halved, juiced (reserve the juice) and chopped roughly.
8-Lemon Drops, rough chop
2-cloves garlic, rough chop
1/4 small onion, rough chop
Handfull of cilantro, rough chop
1-teaspoon white pepper
1-teaspoon table salt
1-tablespoon yellow mustard
Lime juice
In a small food processor, or bowl with a hand held processor, put peppers, onion, garlic, mustard, salt, pepper, and enough liquid to allow processing.
After processed, add chopped tomatoes, and cilantro, and process to the consistency you prefer. Add a couple of tablespoons of lime juice and mix.
The mustard acts as an emulsifier, and IMHO, rounds out the flavor. Yellow boy tomatoes don't have much acid so the lime juice helps out. Let it sit an hour at room temp before serving.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 6:09AM
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esox07 (4b)

My aji limon are growing pendant. It looks like yours are growing upright in the last photo. But they certainly do produce. My plants have a ton of pods on them. Only a few have ripened so far. I am looking forward to a bunch of them ripening so I can make some jelly with them.
Bruce

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 8:53AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Bruce, What is the secret ? Mine doesn't have any pods/

What do you feed your plants ? Some of those fish that you catch ? hehe

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 11:42PM
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tomt226

Pic of the Lemon Drop row. Five plants.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 5:12AM
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esox07 (4b)

Yah, no real secret to the Aji Limon. Just treating it like all my others. I haven't used very many nutrients since we keep getting regular rain here and I don't need to water. I started the season with some Osmocote slow release in the container soil and have only added ferts twice all summer in the form of Alaska Fish Emulsion. I think that once your plants get to the point that they want to start growing fruit, they will put out a ton of blooms all at once and nearly all of them will set. Give it time, I guess.
Bruce

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 8:08AM
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ronnyb123(Zone 9)

esox07... that a nice field of Aji Limon. I have never grown that one, just have the lemon drop.

I will have to try that one next year. Looks like you will have lots of seeds. Trade later?

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 12:52AM
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esox07 (4b)

Ronny, I will have a ton of seeds and you can certainly have some. Hit me up in about a month from now.
Bruce

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 8:17AM
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esox07 (4b)

RonnyB123: I have seeds ready to send out if you still want them. Check your email.
Bruce

    Bookmark   July 22, 2014 at 12:49PM
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ronnyb123(Zone 9)

Thanks Bruce.

Email sent.

    Bookmark   July 22, 2014 at 2:39PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Bruce,
the Aji Limon that we're growing at the Farm are producing different pods than yours....ours are thinner, not quite as pointy. I took a pic yesterday, though, which I think you'll enjoy :-) These plants have made an Aji hedge through the middle of the bed. I warned them about spacing, but did they listen to me? Nope...

Josh

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 3:27PM
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toolstack

Bruce I have been trying to figure this out myself but still have no clue. I want to grow some next year though and I am looking for seeds now.
Randal

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 4:54PM
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kuvaszlvr

Those are weird looking aji limons Bruce. Mine look like Tom's. They look just like my Lemon Drops from past years that I got from Totally Tomatoes. Here's a pic of mine. Mine are growing upright and pendant.
Pam

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 5:36PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Pam, that's exactly how ours are, as well.

Josh

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 6:05PM
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esox07 (4b)

Hmmmm, mine look pretty close but they are all growing pendant.
Bruce

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 6:08PM
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kuvaszlvr

Similar shape, but I agree with Josh, they seem fatter and more pointy, plus, they seem a bit darker green. Don't know, not an expert. I can check and see where I got my seeds last year.
Pam

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 7:01PM
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peppers_galore

I have both. The ones that Pam and Josh have look like the Aji Limon Peru from PepperLover. The ones like Bruce's I got from Scorpion John called Aji Limon. The Peru's are more citrus and less heat. The Aji Limon are more heat less citrus. There are pics of both in this post from July 5.

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 8:59PM
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esox07 (4b)

Ahhhh, Scorpion John may have been who I got mine from as well. OKBruce

    Bookmark   July 31, 2014 at 9:03PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Interesting....so, Bruce, yours will have more heat....exactly what you want ;-) hehehe

Josh

    Bookmark   August 1, 2014 at 3:25AM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Was at the Farm, and remembered to snap a pic....

Josh

    Bookmark   August 7, 2014 at 2:25PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I have one " __ Lemon __". Add prefix or suffix as you wish. It will take me a while to differentiate between "Limon" and "Lemon". Never mind if it drops, stands up. hehe

Anyway, it is fruiting now. I will have to wait till the pods get the color of "lemon". Right now they look like lime.
Have I got a "lemon" ? :-)

    Bookmark   August 7, 2014 at 8:15PM
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alynne68

First year I've done Lemon Drop. Lots of fruit!

Broke a branch so this is ripe and green. Not as hot as fatali, but great flavor. Should make great balance in sauce. Last year I did all super hots which is not too conducive to balanced sauces.

Alison

    Bookmark   August 7, 2014 at 8:17PM
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alynne68

The green are considerably hotter than the ripe! Yikes!!

    Bookmark   August 7, 2014 at 8:41PM
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Orekoc(7 Willamette Valley Oregon)

Oh great. Now I have to try and get seed of both to see which I prefer. I've got a place to plant a bunch of them as it sound like it meets the requirements of the planting space. But which one?

Thanks every one for adding to my problems. I'll remember you in my curses!

"May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits." Klinger

    Bookmark   August 8, 2014 at 2:48AM
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northeast_chileman(6a)

I have been following this thread and investigating each pepper variety that has popped up here as I am planning a grow out of the best variety. The one I grew a few years back was a C. baccatum that was quite prolific, pendant fruit, nice heat and had the citrus flavor expected:

LEMON DROP - hot; Andean Aji Type; 2 to 3 inches long by 0.5 to 0.75 inches wide; medium thick flesh; matures from green to bright yellow; pendant pods; green leaves; 24 to 30 inches tall; Late Season (80-90 days); C.baccatuum. 20 seeds.

But I am also looking at a C. chinense variety:

LIMON - very hot; 1.5 to 2 inches long by 0.5 to 0.625 inches wide; medium thick flesh; matures from green to yellow; pendant pods; green leaves; 12 to 18 inches tall; Early Season (60-70 days); Uses: Prolific; from Peru; C.chinense.

Maybe I'll have to grow both? I realize there are variants, look how many yellow varieties are available at PepperMania, so I'm still looking.

NECM

    Bookmark   August 8, 2014 at 9:18AM
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DMForcier(8 DFW)

I can't imagine that a chinense could be any better than the baccatum.

Dennis

    Bookmark   August 8, 2014 at 11:30AM
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northeast_chileman(6a)

There are a number of reasons I was considering the chinense variety, short growing season to maturity noted in the description above, compact plants and heavy fruit set noted here Semillas Limón Limón is the most productive variety with do have. Small shrubs are completely stuffed with light yellow, drop-shaped very hot and tasty pods.

    Bookmark   August 9, 2014 at 8:58AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I am in the game.
My Lemon Drops are going strong. The pods start upright and then when the get bigger become pendant.
Anyway, mine are still green with no lemony color in sight yet. LD is doing much much better than habs. Even my Thai Hots are better than habs. I want to shoot them but I have no guns. hehe

    Bookmark   August 12, 2014 at 3:08AM
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DMForcier(8 DFW)

Sensimilla Limón ?

I'm there. Got seeds?

- Furtive Guy

    Bookmark   August 12, 2014 at 11:59AM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Seysonn, eat one of those nice green pods...they are excellent.

Josh

    Bookmark   August 12, 2014 at 11:45PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thanks Josh. I sure will try one green Lemon Drop. I eat a lot of green mild/semi hot pepper. Actually I ate a tiny RED Habanero yesterday. It was hot. No kidding.
I will post some pictures of my peppers. They are on my cell phone.

EDIT: added picture

This post was edited by seysonn on Wed, Aug 13, 14 at 23:50

    Bookmark   August 13, 2014 at 2:26AM
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