Waimea vs. Leona Hoke

jandey1(TX8)September 4, 2013

Any of you big growers out there have an answer about whether or not Waimea is the same as Leona Hoke? The question came up on one of the FB plumeria pages and there were both "no" and "yes" answers. I'm confused!

The flowers are very similar and I just noticed today that the leaves are very similar, too, with a definite point on each tip. Both my plants are too young to do a good comparison, and Waimea hasn't bloomed for me yet.

Thanks, plumeria community!

Jen

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rox146

I just looked up in the AKA listing I have from the San Diego group and there is NO mention of an AKA as Leona Hoke....hope someone else finds more info....roxanne

    Bookmark   September 4, 2013 at 10:38PM
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astrl

I don't think so, but I never gave it much thought. Here is Waimea.

astrl

    Bookmark   September 5, 2013 at 8:47PM
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astrl

And Leona Hoke.

astrl

    Bookmark   September 5, 2013 at 8:48PM
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astrl

BTW, the Florida Colors website has Leona Hoke, and the description says the original tree was in Waikiki but has since been cut down. Waimea is a JL. I bought Leona from Florida Colors and Waimea from Matt (the JL seller on Ebay).

I hope this helps.

astrl

    Bookmark   September 5, 2013 at 9:13PM
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jandey1(TX8)

Thanks, Rox and Astrl! The petals look a bit wider on Waimea in photos, but the colors are so close. Hard to tell. When I checked again this morning, both trunks have that slightly knobbly texture, too.

Waimea was supposedly discovered by JL's son, I think. My Leona came from FCN, too, but Tex there was not sure either.

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 9:57AM
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astrl

That's very interesting, jandey. I'll have to pay more attention the next time they are blooming. I wonder if the scents are the same.

astrl

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 4:05PM
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nativec

Hi Jen!

I hope you are doing well. To add to the confusion.... Yolanda looks just like Waimea but Fuzzy gave me the history and they apparently aren't related( I have since forgotten the story). LOL

I like you have often wondered about a possible connection between Waimea and Leona Hoke. Of course Leona has been the bane of my existence since I keep loosing it to rot! I've replaced it for two years from FC and it fails every winter, despite it being well rooted.

Sorry I couldn't help with the mystery but I think astrl has provided compelling evidence:)

Take care!

Nicole

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 4:14PM
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jandey1(TX8)

Nicole when mine is big enough to prune I'll send you a cutting :)

Kara at Plumeria World was kind enough to ask Jim Little for me and both said they'd never heard of an aka for Waimea. So, question answered as far as I'm concerned!

    Bookmark   September 9, 2013 at 1:55PM
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nativec

Jen-that is so kind of you! My trees are working on getting big enough so I can pay it forward. This is where your "comeonalready" comes in :) LOL

Mystery solved! Yay!

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 2:06PM
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plumygirl(9b)

I don't know if this will help any but I have both Waimea and Leona Hoke and I see a difference in the growth pattern and the petals. Leona Hoke rooted quicker as well but, both are beautiful!

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 1:07AM
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plumygirl(9b)

Nicole, if you are interested in buying one of my LH just let me know and I'll pull them. Fully rooted and survived two winters with temps around 34 on more than a few nights. I've had no problems with them whatsoever.

    Bookmark   September 14, 2013 at 3:15PM
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