Red/White Thorny rose ID

lajim(9)January 22, 2006

This rose bush came with the house (1994), planted next to the back wall facing SE. The previous owners (3 years) were not gardeners, planting only the kinds of plants kids give Mom for Mother's day. However, the previous owner to that was a gardener for the local power company. The yard is very small and has a two story building behind it(SE).

The blooms are red on the top surface and a reddish white on the bottom. The stamens and pistals are white and yellow with the very center (around the stamens) of the bloom being white. They are prone to bud in multiple sets with 3-4 four to six inch stems on each bloom. I can get blooms several times a year. The plant does not hip at all. What remains when the bloom fades is a whithered hypanthium and some stem dieback.

The leaves are oval with small serrations. The are wrinkled, not flat

Perhaps the most interesting feature of the plant is the thorns. The older stems are almost completely covered with thorns. The younger wood is about 50% covered with thorns in no discernible pattern. The rose has no scent and easily grows thick woody stalks.

Definitely not a hybrid tea! I'd appreciate any help in figuring out what this is. I can get some pictures, but it's complicated and may take me a day or two to get done.

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diane_nj 6b/7a

Does the bloom have hybrid tea form? If so, sounds like it could be the Grandiflora named Love, which is very thorny. There is also a decendant of Love called Fire 'n' Ice, which is a Floribunda, but I don't remember that as being as thorny as the parent.

    Bookmark   January 30, 2006 at 11:47AM
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paparoseman(z8 WA. PO.)

It sounds very much like the hybrid tea Snowfire. So thorny that the mature canes cannot be touched without sticking your finger and no scent to speak of. Snowfire does not have long canes like most ht's in my experience, it is shaped more like a floribunda because of its width compared to height.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2006 at 7:41PM
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karenforroses(z5 NorthernMI)

My Snowfire was also covered with thorns - more than any other rose I have.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2006 at 2:40PM
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