Rose rustling - 2 roses.
Saw an ad in Craigslist for FREE ROSES. A local community garden was closing so all the plants were free. People had dug up whole bushes. But when I got there, the ones left were too big with bases of a foot to 2 feet. So I took a bunch of cuttings. It looks like they had been neglected for awhile. All the leaves had black spot and rust.
I would appreciate any help in getting an ID for these roses.
Red- Carmine color with pink filaments, little to no fragrance, few thorns, single flower.
Flower 4" across, 30+ petals curl under, head droops down, 1" pointy bud.
Long stems 18-24".
5 large oval dark green with red vein leaves, 2 3/4" L X 2 1/4" W.
Upright growth of bush 6-8ft.
Bright red good size hips.
White - Pure white with green outer petals on bud, white filaments, sweet perfume fragrance, almost no thorns, flowers in clusters.
Flower 3" across, 20+ petals, head face up, 1" round bud.
5 small round light green shiny waxy leaves, 1 1/8" L X 1" W.
Brown red small hips.