Altissimo in NC zone 7

lecorbeau(7b)June 2, 2005

Has anyone had success with this rose in the middle of NC?

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lecorbeau(7b)

Forgot to ask: can it survive the winter in a container?

    Bookmark   June 2, 2005 at 12:03AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It's a good rose, but you may need to spray something regularly to control black spot (sulfur, copper soap, or antitranspirant--see the FAQ). Roses in large pots are generally OK in zone 7b, but an extraordinarily hard cold spell might kill the roots.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2005 at 1:09PM
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lecorbeau(7b)

Thanks, MichaelG. I'd like it on my patio against the brick of the house - southern exposure. I'm running out of full sun.
K.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2005 at 8:16PM
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Sophie Wheeler

It's an awkward grower even under the best conditions. The canes are really stiff and upright and naked at the bottom. It's really best suited as a pillar type rose. And, yes, it will need spraying. That, and it's infection with RMV were why I shovelpruned it, despite it being a sentimental favorite. Altissimo provided my first blue ribbons in a rose show, and it is still a big winner in the climber class in many shows today.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2005 at 8:20PM
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lecorbeau(7b)

It's the color that I'm after. Is there a better rose for this climate that has that bright red? I don't know how to name the color, but it's a more orange red than most red roses, and yet, it's not orange.

    Bookmark   June 3, 2005 at 8:23AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Possibly Dame de Coeur, a small hybrid tea that is supposed to be disease resistant, or Ole (accent mark, I don't do floors or HTML). I haven't seen the Dame, but Patricia43 loves it, and she would be able to compare the color with Altissimo if you email her (see Antique Roses Forum). It is fragrant. Ole might be a little more orange than you want.

    Bookmark   June 3, 2005 at 5:19PM
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lecorbeau(7b)

Dame de Coeur is beautiful, but the description I read says it turns to burgundy.
What do you think about Showbiz or Lichterloh? I would be able to find a place for these in the garden beds since they're so much smaller, so the container question isn't relevant. Just need to know if they would be good for no-spray.
Thanks.
K.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2005 at 11:03PM
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Sophie Wheeler

Showbiz or Trumpeter would work OK if you can tolerate some spots. Both have half decent disease resistance. The polyantha Leonie Lamesch has tones of that color red in it along with oranges and salmons. It's really a bright spot in the garden that defies categorization. The Kordes shrub Bischofsstadt Paderborn is also scarlet. It's got decent disease resistance, but is slow to get started.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2005 at 10:13AM
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lecorbeau(7b)

Thank you both so much! I am putting the question to my daughter who wants that particular color.
I did find another Kordes in that color: Kordes Brilliant. Would this also be disease resistant here?
You've been so helpful.
Thanks again.
K.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2005 at 1:03PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Dang, I have been avoiding Dame de Coeur because I thought it would clash with my crimson roses, so thank you for that information.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2005 at 2:14PM
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lecorbeau(7b)

Michael G.,
I've always just categorized vermillion, scarlet and crimson as "red," and never took the time to find the difference. Now I see the need. (They weren't in the Crayola big pack when I was a kid.) However, even when colors are described in names I know, I discovered people don't always see things the same. And photos aren't always accurate either. Probably the safest way to be sure of the color is to see the blossom before buying.
K.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2005 at 8:39AM
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