ID of white blended rose (with pictures and ID card)

nanito(5)June 12, 2009

IDENTIFICATION CARD

PLANT

Type: Bush.

Size: Up to 4.26 tall (130 cm) and 3.28´ wide (100 cm) aprox. (these measures are estamated taking into account that the rose grows in a neighboring old garden and I could not go and take the exact numbers)

Stems: Thin and flexible.

Habit: Bush

FOLIAGE

Shape: (See Picture).

Color: Medium green, dull (not glossy).

Size: Medium.

FLOWERS

Features of the bud: Small light pink bud, bright-red blended (see pictures).

Diameter: 2.76" x 2.76" (7 cm x 7 cm) the smallest ones and 3.54" x 3.54" (9cm x 9 cm) the biggest ones.

Flower: It is not a big flower but it has a lot of petals (almost 75, more or less)

How does it bloom?: Solitary and in posies of up to 5 flowers of long redish stalks.

How many times does it flower?: Taking into account that the rose grows in a neighboring old garden I do not have the exact information, but it has a really abundant and long lasting blooming in the fall season.

Number of petals and shape: Up to 75 petals counting the tiny inner petals.

Stamen Yes/ No: It is impossible to apreciate them because the flower never opens completely due to the enormous amount of tiny inner petals.

Color: White blend (creamy blended). When the flower is mature, their external petals get curved slightly backwards and acquire a pink color with darker fuxia tones and something that I have never ever seen: a kind of brilliant fuxia spots (see pictures)

Yo can also apreciate in some picrures a kind of sticky substance in the reverse of the basal petals.

Lenght of the flower: High.

Fragance: A delicate sweet vanilla fragance.

Resistance: It seems to be a very vigorous and healthy cultivar.

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THANKS for your time! Mariano

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nanito(5)

Wow I did not know I just can upload only one picture! I have almost 22 to share! :(

I add a link of a spanish forum where I published many pictures of it (message 439)

    Bookmark   June 12, 2009 at 2:13PM
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theroselvr

You used BB code - to post to this forum you need html code.

Easiest is to get a free picasa account and share the album.

I'm going to bump all of your posts with the same info I posted in one since the red blotches are a disease..

Features of the bud: Small light pink bud, bright-red blended (see pictures).

The red blotches are damage to the bloom from too much rain. It is a disease called BOTRYTIS BLIGHT FUNGUS - Spotting caused by the Botrytis spores to a rose bloom. Notice "water spots" surrounded by pink ring.

HTML Code - Look under Formatting -

Adds an image - - where name is you add the http url

    Bookmark   June 13, 2009 at 7:54AM
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petaloid(SoCal 10a/24)

One possibility is a tea rose from the 1800s named Mademoiselle de Sombreuil. I will put a link below to HelpMeFind photos, and please notice the ones posted by Jedmar. One of those shows pink spots from botritis.

(Just so you know, it was called La Biche here in the US until recently, when the correct name was determined. We had also been using the name Sombreuil for a rose that turned out to be Colonial White.)

    Bookmark   June 13, 2009 at 4:29PM
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nanito(5)

ROSELVR THANK YOU for taking the time to "re-write" my post. I am new on it and it was my first time starting a post and uploading a picture here, so, as you might have noticed, I had some problems with it!
I also was thinking about Botrytis, so it is great that you mentioned it too. Once more, THANKS a lot!

PETALOID THANK YOU too, because I think you have identified exactly the rose I posted. I also thought about ´Mrs. Foley Hobbs´ (1910) and ´Souvenir de Pierre Notting´ (1891). There are in HMF many pictures that are extremely similar, but the pictures of ´Mlle. De Sombreuil´ from Jerod are almost the same than mines. If you have some time, please check them anytime and tell me what you think about these other two varieties.

ps.: by the way, have you seen the other white blended rose I have posted to identify?. Maybe you are lucky again! :D

    Bookmark   June 13, 2009 at 11:19PM
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nanito(5)

ROSELVR, PETALOID here is what I think is the final identification of the rose: ´Rubens´ a tea rose from 1859.
The pink version of ´Sombreuil´.
There is a link below from my Picasa account were I have uploaded many of the pictures I have taken, please check them out with the ones from HMF.

    Bookmark   June 14, 2009 at 6:15PM
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