It has an RU Irish Elegance tag on it, but

llpnut(8 NTX)July 11, 2005

I don't think so...

I have had it since last fall, nearly three seasons

it has never bloomed

here is the foliage

here is the bush form, apologies, it got very dry early this summer, got put in the back forty, and though it is clean no spray it isn't showoffable

as you see, very fountain to umbrella shaped, 5 to 7 leaflets foliaged, and as far as I can see thornless

any guesses?

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

I had Irish Elegance from RU (lost it to horrific crown gall in year three) and it bloomed willingly from the very beginning. The size at three years is small (compared to my former monster) but I don't remember the foliage as being anything special-just usual early HT like. Its growth pattern was very "tea" like.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2005 at 7:13PM
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Looks like some kind of undestock. Maybe a thornless form of muliflora?
Suggest shovel pruning.

    Bookmark   July 22, 2005 at 4:41AM
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petaloid(SoCal 10a/24)

I have Irish Elegance and the foliage looks different than what I can see in your photo. Mine has repeat-bloomed since I first got it.

I think oldroser may be correct, that rootstock overtook your original variety. Time to replace whatever it is with the real thing.

Here is a link that might be useful: Irish Elegance -- click on Photos tab

    Bookmark   July 22, 2005 at 11:08PM
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llpnut(8 NTX)

I dumped this in the back forty but if it is multiflora do I need to nuke it?

    Bookmark   July 23, 2005 at 8:02AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Peanut, if you are asking about rosette disease, multiflora is no more dangerous than any other large rose in the yard. It supports rosette in the woods only because it is the rose that grows in the woods. But y'all in DFW don't have to worry anyway.

    Bookmark   July 25, 2005 at 3:54PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

RRD is in the Dallas Fort Worth area. It was there in scattered gardens (Jim and Eve Estes had it on one plant) and I had emails this spring from a garden just north of the metro area where a man was going to loose over a hundred roses to RRD. It got into his garden and he didn't get it identified for a while and it got firmly entrenched.
He finally found a nursery where they'd identified it for another client the previous week and then he found the ebook. Until then, he had been told it was a nutrient deficiency and had been encouraged to fertilize heavily to cure it; that didn't work.

    Bookmark   July 28, 2005 at 11:17AM
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llpnut(8 NTX)

I knew East Texas was on the rrd list
thanks Ann, I'd rather just yank it

as someone said, not worth the water
thanks to all for your help and thoughts

    Bookmark   July 29, 2005 at 6:31AM
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