I see that this forum is rarely used. As I am posting now in September 2013, the most recent previous post was the end of May 2013.
I have decided to post here even without company. I've learned over the couple of years that I've been posting on the regular rose forum and the antique rose forum, that new ideas, organic ideas, knowledge from 30 years of gardening in multiple climates, etc. are all mostly unappreciated there. They have a "if WE didn't say it, then it ISN'T true approach."
There are threads in those forums (you'd have to search for them) that document a mass exodus of forum participants due to the behavior over there. There is also documentation of how there "used to be" very knowledgeable well known participants in those forums who also stopped participating.
Even a rather recent post by an organic method endorsing American Rose Society certified rosarian who stated that the nay saying posts of (not his words) know-it-alls, was too much to endure.
Indeed, it is true.
We've had a revolution in rose growing in this nation thanks primarily to the introduction of the Knock Out roses. The other forums are still primarily "California focused." California was the source of all the ne'er-do-wells for decades, and yet....
Anyway, this forum should NOT welcome those who spray or apply fungicides in any form - or otherwise use chemicals regularly, etc. There was an unbelievable thread in the main rose forum where an individual asserted that since she used "a fungicidal drench" that her garden was "no spray."
So, I arrive here.
I realized or discovered while posting in the other forums, many readers are "lurkers." I did this myself for a couple of years. During my time posting on the regular rose forums, I had the rare gratification of having someone post acknowledgment of the help my posts provided them (even if it was well camouflaged). And also to have my ideas sometimes restated later (given sufficient time) as someone else's ideas which is in its way also gratifying (if one ignores how inherently insulting that behavior is).
There's an old cliche: "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."
But, I believe that anyone who does so is only compromising his or her own principles or beliefs. Can you imagine our modern day if the Boston colonists had accepted the tax on tea?
By participating in the other forums and having constantly to defend my knowledge and experience against those who drove away the countless afore mentioned, I was depending upon the reader to be discerning. Here, in the 'Organic Rose Growing' forum there SHOULD NOT be any such issues. And if attempted, should be quite obvious. So I leave the main rose forums with, I suspect, as much pleasure as the countless others before me. I do reserve the right to "give 'em what for" should they badly need it, but the truth is they need it badly much too often.
But, I will not leave, at least not quite yet, or abandon you - the novice reader (or others) yearning to succeed by refusing to share my knowledge and experience when time and energy (T&E) allows. This does NOT mean that I'll be monitoring this forum to answer questions, or that I will necessarily answer questions because my T&E don't allow for that.
Cheers to the 'Organic Rose Growing' forum!
This post was edited by sandandsun on Tue, Sep 3, 13 at 12:57