Where to buy Dr. Huey rootstock?

michelle_co(z5 CO)January 4, 2007

Hi,

Is there a good place to get clean Dr. Huey rootstock for grafting?

Thanks,

Michelle

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aliska12000(Z5)

Are you in too much of a hurry to root some cuttings of it? I've got tons of it from one huge bush, but it probably isn't "clean". The darn thing looks as healthy as a horse though. Taken end of May 2006. Somebody here id'ed as Dr. Huey. It is suckers from a grafted rose that died.

You probably want to get started with it now to have some ready for next season.

I've done nothing to it for years, no water, anything, except whack off long shoots that stick out so it's hard to walk that narrow area or mow past it.

    Bookmark   January 4, 2007 at 8:10PM
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michelle_co(z5 CO)

Thanks for the offer, that's very nice of you. :-) I am hoping to buy a parent plant or bareroot bundles from a place that offers it guaranteed virus free... I can take cuttings here, but am not sure if the parent is virused or not.

I was glad to see on another thread that you got a cutting or two to root. :-)

Cheers,
Michelle

    Bookmark   January 4, 2007 at 8:24PM
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aliska12000(Z5)

Yes, it was bittersweet. Just the two. But they seem to be doing ok. Thanks. I'll keep trying. I've still got to get them through the rest of the winter and hardened off outside again.

Did you see on the old thread of yours I resurrected where I asked about the proportions of your rooting medium and how you do your dishpans?

I think you said you used peat, vermiculite and coir. Vermiculite alone was a disaster for me; it got too dry compared to the peat/pearlite George recommended.

I think I would have gotten a few more if I hadn't screwed up potting two, didn't cover those up again and leaves immediately shrivelled, probably not a mature enough root system for one thing, and could have left the others outside longer. The peat/pearlite definitely worked better but I restuck some when I brought them in and they all rotted. One is still green doing nothing :-(. A light tug and it resists. All (but maybe one) of the last batch (7 or 8 cuttings) rooted, but only one lived through potting up. Somehow it never lost all its original leaves either like most of the rest did.

The last baby where I ruined two of the last three, I left it much longer and the roots actually did finally grow through one of the holes. Then when I tapped it out, a bunch of stuff fell off but there was a huge gob of roots. I handled them VERY GENTLY! And covered the pot with the bottle, now plastic held up with bamboo sticks letting a little air in. I'm afraid to take it off but think I should at some point . . .

Good luck w/your Dr. Huey and grafting. You are a real trooper and a big help and encouragement to boot.

    Bookmark   January 4, 2007 at 9:13PM
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jbcarr(7 VA)

The UC Davis FPS program sells virus indexed rose cuttings for both root stock, and popular varieties in commerce. The patented varieties require permission from the patent holder, but the root stocks are not patented. It looks like they are geared towards commercial buyers, but they may sell to a hobbyist.

Here is a link that might be useful: UC Davis FPS Rose Program

    Bookmark   January 21, 2007 at 10:03AM
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weldontx(z 8a TX)

UCDavis does sell to individuals and now is the time to order before they begin pruning. I ordered 2 yrs ago and got very nice cuttings.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2007 at 11:19PM
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michelle_co(z5 CO)

Thanks, I will check into that program. I didn't know if they would sell to individuals, but will find out and post back.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2007 at 6:22AM
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FoxGardenerUGA(7b-North GA)

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am very interested in aquiring some dr. huey rootstock on which to do some of my own grafting and budding. I am located in Georgia. Is there somewhere I could get my hands on even one plant which I could multiply via cuttings? I would like to try my hand at this.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 8:53PM
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roseseek

Vintage Gardens has it currently available on their site.

http://www.vintagegardens.com/roses.aspx?cat_id=29

If you want stock cleaned of Rose Mosaic Virus, order it from Foundation Plant Services at UC Davis and root it yourself. Information on how to do it is below. Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: Dr. Huey at UC Davis

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 11:48PM
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FoxGardenerUGA(7b-North GA)

Thank you very much. I appreciate the help. If I order from vintage gardens, is there a significant chance of receiving a virus-infected plant even though they say their roses are "virus indexed"?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 8:53AM
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roseseek

That's not quite the case. Of all the possible nurseries, Vintage has been the most forthcoming about the potential of virus in their roses. If you buy their big catalog, Gregg provides the provenance of every rose they offer. No other source offers this kind of information. Those which have been obtained from UC Davis and their Foundation Plant Services RMV program are indicated with "VID" or "VI" after their names. Those specific roses have been purchased from the Davis program and are certified RMV free. The big catalog further states whether the rose was obtained from Dr. Manners' program at Florida Southern College to eliminate RMV, or what other source it was obtained.

The only other nurseries which have addressed this issue have been Pickering, who states that all the roses they offer have been virus indexed, and Heirloom, who reportedly has worked with several indexing programs, as well as imported many of their roses from Europe. Their web site says, and has said for several decades, "own root roses are virus free. All our roses are own root." It has been shown that European imports are NOT all virus free. Own root roses are ONLY free from Rose Mosaic Virus IF they are produced from RMV free plants. There is no way to know for sure if the plant is free from that group of viruses unless they are tested, and/or treated then retested for them. Heirloom does not state which of their roses has been tested or treated.

If you want the greatest potential for Dr. Huey to be free from RMV, your best bet is to purchase the stock cuttings from Davis and root your own. You could also email Vintage to ask what the source of their Dr. Huey is. If they obtained it from Florida Southern, Dr. Manners, it should be clean. I doubt they obtained it from Davis due to the absence of the VI or VID indication with the rose name as the others they obtained from Davis carry.

If you know the roses you wish to bud are already RMV infected, or if you don't care whether they are or not, you can use any root stock sucker from any commercially grown bare root rose in your, or anyone elses garden. But, the best way to know is ask Vintage, or buy from Davis. Kim

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 11:57AM
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