Saving Seed from Royal Black Pepper - red or black pods?

bella_trix(z6b SE PA)November 11, 2013

I have some Royal Black peppers that I have been growing from the original seed that I purchased many years ago. I isolated some plants this year, but the pepper pods are still black (full size, but not red). Can I save seed from these peppers or do they need to turn red? I've been protecting the plant from frost, but I don't think I'll be able to extend the season much longer. I love this plant - the leaves are a gorgeous jet black and I would hate lose it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Bellatrix

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judo_and_peppers(Tampa FL)

if you want viable seeds you need to let them fully ripen, which in this case means let them turn red, and stay red for a few days (a week, if you can) on the plant to insure maximum viability.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 1:11PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Seeds of things like tomato and pepper, get their nutrients from the fruit, and nut directly from the plant. If the seeds are fully formed, they can mature inside the pepper, while sitting on the counter top and drying. During that time the pepper itself should also turn to its final color. If it does not,then the seeds might not be viable. JMO

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 2:50PM
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smokemaster_2007

I find PLANT ripened pods to put out viable seeds at higher germination rates.
Not fully ripe pods don't in general.
Go for red,then give them a few extra days before picking for best results.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 5:50PM
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DMForcier(8 DFW)

Dig the plant. Pot it. Overwinter. Plant in the high spring - or leave it potted.

And yes, while on-plant ripened seeds are best, counter-ripened seeds will usually germinate and grow.

Dennis

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 6:51PM
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bella_trix(z6b SE PA)

Thanks, everyone! It is still hanging in there, despite 21F temps here. Some of the leaves were hit that night, but I'm amazed that I've kept it going. The pods are starting to turn red. I may give up at this point, bring it in bare roots (and in water) and let it sit in the house for a few weeks.

Thanks again,
Bellatrix

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 9:10AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Let me give you a living example:
Couple of months ago I bought some green SHISHITO peppers from Asian Market I made two jars of pickles and set aside some that were fully green and couple of them had a hint of red. I kept them on the counter And saved seeds from those that turned fully red first(the best ones). The rest was left there. They too eventually turned red. I did a test: I took seeds from one of the last ones that turned red and planted. Within 7 days they all germinated(in paper towel). Then I planted them in 3.5" pots . Now they are growing and have 6 leaves each.
Now my problem is how to keep them growing indoor til April. LOL.
I have saved seeds in similar fashion from Serrano, Gypsy, Cubanelle, Chilaca, and few others. The worst weak case was the SHISHITO that I just explained.

So, my advice is that just keep the pods(the most mature ones) on the counter until they turn red and acually as long as they do not rot. Then save seeds from those.

JMO.

    Bookmark   December 2, 2013 at 9:27AM
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