Advice on Wendy's Wish (?) salvia

Diana395(8b- Gulfport, Mississippi)September 24, 2012

Last week, I found two rather large (30"), sprawly and blooming plants on the clearance rack at Lowe's with no hang tag but the sticker on the planter just said "salvia." Being new to the category, I spent a few days combing through websites and posts trying to determine what kind these were and now I believe they may be Wendy's Wish based on the leaf shape. The hummers love them. The flowers are actually more fuchsia pink than the red on the photo.

Anyway, whatever the variety, I am trying to figure out whether to plant them in containers that can be brought into my screen porch during the coldest parts of winter or in the ground. If in the ground, should I go for full sun on the south side of my house which is still quite intense or a mix of direct and dappled sun on the north? I am about a third of mile from the beach.

I also need advice on what could be causing some of the leaves to turn yellow and drop. They've been that way since the beginning (a little raggedy). Although there's quite a bit of new growth still occurring, some of the older, larger leaves are turning color and falling off daily. It's still humid here and in the high 80s/low 90s most days. Overnights range from high 60s to mid-70s, usually muggy. I've been watering when the leaves look wilted, which seems to perk 'em up, but I am concerned about overwatering too. Should I consider cutting them back now?

Any advice/suggestions would be much appreciated! I really hope I can get these to thrive and come back next spring because they're lovely.

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Diana395(8b- Gulfport, Mississippi)

Additional picture...

    Bookmark   September 24, 2012 at 8:25PM
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Diana395(8b- Gulfport, Mississippi)

And another... (must figure out how to upload multiple pix)

    Bookmark   September 24, 2012 at 8:29PM
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hawkeye_wx(z5 east-central IA)

It's definitely Wendy's Wish. Funny you mention the leaves yellowing and dropping off because I'm having the same issue with my potted WW. I'm not sure if I'm watering too much, fertilizing too much, if the plant may be too rootbound in the 12" pot, or something else.

    Bookmark   September 25, 2012 at 10:19PM
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Diana395(8b- Gulfport, Mississippi)

Thanks for the positive i.d. Hawkeye. In your experience, are these better in containers or the ground?

    Bookmark   September 26, 2012 at 2:31AM
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hawkeye_wx(z5 east-central IA)

Diana, this is my first year growing WW and I only have the one plant in a pot. I was very happy with it earlier in the season when it was very healthy looking and still fairly compact. It eventually spread out quite a bit and is a little more sprawling than I'd like. The bloom spikes get quite long and twisty, so it's not the neatest looking plant now. If I find it locally again next spring I may end up cutting it back somewhat before mid summer. We'll see.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2012 at 7:39PM
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eahamel(9a)

I got one about 2 months ago, and have separated the plants in the pot and put them in the ground, and they're very happy there. Mine are smaller than yours - shorter, that is. I don't know if they will be okay in the ground for the winter, though. It's a new plant to me, too.

    Bookmark   October 1, 2012 at 12:40PM
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Diana395(8b- Gulfport, Mississippi)

Glad to hear your ground planted WW are doing well, eahamel... Are they in full sun? Do they get any shade at all? Mine are still in their original containers (mainly because I haven't found large enough pots that I like) but looking much better now that they got a long drenching rain and are in partial sun. Lots of blooms, too. Still thinking Im going to do one in a pot, one in the ground and see how it goes. Hawkeye, I rather like the wild sprawly look of these guys but will probably trim back soon. Thanks for all the feedback! If we are lucky we'll all have a gorgeous spring with our WWs!

    Bookmark   October 2, 2012 at 8:50AM
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Long48

I've found it does far better if shaded from the worst of the afternoon sun (much as we get it) here in the UK.

Strikes very easily from tip cuttings, but be aware that it is protected by PBR.

    Bookmark   October 4, 2012 at 3:57PM
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jenn(SoCal 9/19)

I have one growing in the ground with southern exposure that gets direct sun until early afternoon, 1-2pm. We have clay soil and this area does not get regular irrigation so I need to drag the hose to it once in a while to give it a drink. It does seem to yellow a bit during dry spells, and greens up again after a drink.

    Bookmark   October 14, 2012 at 12:06AM
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eahamel(9a)

The pieces that I first planted get a lot of shade and dappled light. I transplanted two into a bed that gets direct sun until about 2 or 3 pm. All are doing just fine.

Do the plant propagation restrictions apply to people who buy one for their yard, or to commercial growers? I have seen discussions about this before, and think that would not apply to someone growing them for their own use.

    Bookmark   October 15, 2012 at 11:13AM
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rich_dufresne(z7 NC)

You are allowed to propagate plants under patent protection for your own use. The line is clearly drawn when plants are propagated for sale, by you or those who get them from you. Donating a few plants to a community garden or doing a few for friends and family is in a gray area, usually inconsequential.

    Bookmark   October 15, 2012 at 1:59PM
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SunnyCher(MS 9a - 9b)

Hope this helps!

Key feature: Long Bloom Season

Plant type: Shrub

Patent Act: Asexual reproduction of plants protected by the Plant Patent Act is prohibited.

Deciduous/evergreen: Evergreen

Cold hardiness zones: 9 - 11

Light needs: Partial to full sun

Water Needs: Water regularly, when top 3 in. of soil is dry. Drought tolerant once established.

Average landscape size: Reaches 3 - 4 feet tall and 2 - 3 feet wide

Growth rate: Fast

Flower attributes: Long Bloom Season, Showy Flowers

Flower color: Red

Blooms: Spring through fall.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2013 at 9:00PM
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unbiddenn

Lucky! Lucky! Lucky people who can grow this as a perennial. I have grown this as an annual for three years, and love it. Mine is in full sun, but it is wetter and cooler along the Great Lakes. I do know leaves yellow and drop when it gets too much water, and it flourished in last years drought, giving a stunning display when much else died. If only i could bring this in...

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 8:18PM
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Ralph Whisnant(z7b-8 NC)

Diana, if you get any frost at all, it will likely kill your Wendy's Wish unless you can cover and protect it. Since you are in a very mild area, I would suggest going ahead with putting these plants in the ground, but take several cuttings to overwinter in a protected place, if you have one. They are very easy to root in just tap water and begin blooming while still quite small.

    Bookmark   October 23, 2013 at 10:10PM
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rvird01

I planted Wendy's Wish for the first time this spring. I planted it in the ground around the edges of a shade garden under live oaks. They get morning sun for about 3 hours then dappled shade the rest of the day. They have been blooming non-stop since planting in May...through the hot and humid rainy summer and the dry and warm Fall. They survived a hard frost followed by an immediate warm up without missing a beat. The hummers, butterflies and moths love them!

    Bookmark   December 22, 2013 at 7:49PM
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kermitc

Ours in the ground went through 24 degrees for 4 nights, and all it did was burn off a few leaves. This plant can and does take more cold than was expected.

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 3:04PM
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Long48

I agree that this is hardier than (I had at least) given it credit for. We've had a wet and mild winter here in the UK with just a few frosts, but both of mine in pots are still in bud in a sheltered spot.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:32PM
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rvird01

Just following up on the Wendy's Wish that I planted last Spring. They bloomed non-stop all winter and are starting to put out more blooms. We had tons of rain (20 inches) this winter but it still looks great.
I have picked up 3 more at Lowe's this week. I love them so much that I actually paid full price. Lol

    Bookmark   March 31, 2014 at 9:22PM
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edenh(z9)

Hi
I got two from lowe's clearance rack.I divided one of them and they grow big fast. In one week they are the same size as the one i did not divide. I didnt like it much so I was going to return the undivided one. Put it in the car and then I forgot about it until 6 hours later. It was baking in the car , must be 100 degree or more!) When I finally remember, it was crispy ! Took it out, water,water,water..trim the burnt leaves and a week later it is blooming again. However..the one I divided earlier are much,much bigger by now.

    Bookmark   May 3, 2014 at 8:35AM
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