New Sans. ---- blooms included!

rachelthepoet(7)December 18, 2012

This is my second sans.! I was excited to find this one today. The label says sans. Trifasciata, but I wanted to double check the type with you experts since this plant looks nothing like my first sans (which had the same label---but it is the expected green with yellow trim).

I also wanted to ask about repotting. The soil is moist, but not soaked. I don't want to repot if it will mess up the bloom cycle. One bloom is a little broken, but the other is intact. Since I don't know if more blooms are coming and the soil isn't awfully wet, can I wait to repot for a little while?

Thanks!!!

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roberto2

Good catch! It is 'Bantel's Sensation', a still uncommon 'laurentii' cv., described in Chahinian's book on page 45. Leaves have variable stripe patterns, but it is a stable cv. Smaller and slower than laurentii, it rarely produces spikes. (Never seen one in any of my plants). I am curious to know if pollen is produced or if it is andro-sterile.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 4:31PM
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Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6

At first I thought Roberto was mistaken. But looking further and enlarging the photo. I have to agree with him. Also, because it is blooming and is doing so well, keep it like it is until spring time when it is warmer and can take a shock of transplanting. Just remember to let it dry out for longer periods than normal and keep warm. And by the way, the name is Sansevieria trifasciata Bantel's Sensation. So it is a trifasciata after all. Great find indeed.
Stush

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 6:31PM
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rachelthepoet(7)

Thanks Roberto and Stush for your quick ids! You've both made me feel like I found something special! I can't believe I found this at Lowes for only $5.

I'll leave it like it is and ill make sure to update when I do repot or if I get anymore blooms now that it is home... I hope they keep coming!

Roberto: i'm not an expert by any means, but I popped off a green bud on the broken bloom and opened it up for you. It does look like yellow pollen on the inside.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 12:22PM
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roberto2

Of course, I am never mistaken (!!!). In order to be far more pedantic, I went to browse the U.S.Patent Office Site, and ,after a week of relentless search, I eventually found it: the original Patent application by Mr.Gustav E.Bantel of St.Louis, Mo (Appl.Date July 24, 1946. Serial Nr.685,978. Cl.47-59. Patent Nr.796, in date April 20, 1948. Pagg.2).At page 2, line 5 and followings Mr.Bantel writes:"This new variety is a sport of the variety S.laurentii and has been asexually reproduced by division and from rhizomes...". So, properly speaking,it is NOT a variety of S.trifasciata but of S.trifasciata v.laurentii. Then, it should be named a "cultivated form" of cv.laurentii or: S.trifasciata v.laurentii cf.'Bantel's Sensation'.
Please note that Patent Nr.796 was issued in date 04/20/1948 and not in "July 1946" as stated in Chahinian's Book.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 2:28PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think it's special! I've only ever seen 2 Sans blooms in person. Please let us know if it smells good when the flowers open. So cool!

    Bookmark   December 21, 2012 at 10:50AM
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bonsaigai(NY Zone 6)

Roberto!!!
I love it when you speak pedantic. You are absolutely correct. We should ALL be so careful with our labels.
Michael
Interlaken NY Z6

    Bookmark   December 21, 2012 at 11:23AM
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Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6

So, properly speaking,it is NOT a variety of S.trifasciata but of S.trifasciata v.laurentii.
So laurentii is not a trifasciata?

    Bookmark   December 21, 2012 at 12:58PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Hey, Rachel. How's it looking now? Have you gotten a whiff of perfume yet?

    Bookmark   December 27, 2012 at 9:36AM
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rachelthepoet(7)

Purple: no smells that I've noticed and no good changes. From the top down, buds / blooms are gradually drying up

    Bookmark   December 28, 2012 at 10:11AM
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pirate_girl(Zone7 NYC)

Hi Rachel,

Have you checked for fragrance in the evening? Some plants smell more strongly then, sometimes white ones in particular, which I hear is what many Sans. bloom (as I've never seen in in person myself).

Lucky you, enjoy!!

    Bookmark   December 28, 2012 at 11:22AM
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norma_2006

Rachel and all they flower usually at 10:00 here in Calif. a few opening up at a time and are closed by the morning, these will reopen again, but a few more will open the next night until the flower stem is complete finished, it has been said they are fertilied by a moth, I have hand pollinated mine, but stayed up all night doing it. Use a tiny camel hair brush if you have the patience to do so, being sure to get the pollen in the right place. Seed may take up to a year to ripen. Let us know know you do. You may need the pollen or two different seed grown plants, I don't know if they are self fertile. Norma

    Bookmark   December 28, 2012 at 9:51PM
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norma_2006

Sorry for the errors but the right hand is barely functing at this time.
Finglers don't work correctlyl I hope I made my self clear.
When it does flower on a growth, it will not flower on that growth again, so use it for new offsets in another pot, this will restart the plant again, it will only flower on new growth. These plants like to be crowded, so don't be in a hurry to make new plants.

    Bookmark   December 29, 2012 at 12:22AM
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rachelthepoet(7)

The blooms and stalks/spikes are completely brown. Now that the flowering time is over, should I trim off the stalks? Since Norma said it wouldnt flower in the same place, i didnt know if i should leave the brown stalk as a marker until if/when i divide.

The soil looks so awful that I'm tempted to repot, but I'd like to hold off for another month with Stush's warm weather recommendation

Anyway, I just wanted to keep you posted on its progress and ask those few questions. You have all been so great!

    Bookmark   January 16, 2013 at 10:46AM
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