HarpandShamrockJanuary 23, 2014

Hello, all. First post here. We live in S.C. and have a hobby farm. My question has to do with tilling. I am a big fan of no-till. I have not been able to practice it though. Two years ago I tilled, pulverized to be specific, and felt I had to force the garden to produce. Last year, I removed sod and very lightly tilled and the garden did great. We expanded the garden this year as we plan to sell at a couple small and local farmers markets. Instead of removing sod, I placed cardboard down, with straw on top, then a bed of crushed leaves on top to help kill the grass. Now, the question I have, is to till. Many non-conventional growers have said I should till in the cardboard, straw, and leaves (just for the record, I was planning on adding lime since our soil test showed high acidity) so the decaying leaves should be balanced out. What are your thoughts? Any similar experiences to share good or bad. Thanks

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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

I am not a farmer, just a gardener.... I tilled my beds the first year, and never since then. Every time I pull out a crop and plant another (2-3 times a year), I loosen the soil with a fork and plant. I have done the lasagna method you describe with the cardboard. By spring it will be rotted in. No need to till in my experience.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2014 at 1:04PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I agree with the above. Disturbing the soil unnecessarily ruins the structure.

Here is a link that might be useful: An excellent, brief tutorial about soil microbiology

    Bookmark   January 31, 2014 at 3:16PM
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Be careful throwing around words like unnecessarily. You don't know if it's necessary or not, given what was shared. It's not instant in a season, unless what you started with was fairly close. What you start with matters, and fixing the soil structure by tilling organic matter in can save you years in terms of natural methods. The pertinent questions are related to how well the sod was growing. If it grew well, skip tilling. If it was scraggly grass on clay hardpack, tilling will be quicker. Being adjacent to fertile soil will help. It takes years or decades for shrubs to take over from grasslands on clay. Layering compost is like adding time directly, so how long it takes still depends on how far you need to go. You can do it all at once, but there's easier ways to make a raised bed.

My guess is light tilling is going to be best for this first year, since you are trying for sales level production as fast as possible. Till, retest, amend, and next year you will likely be ready for no till. Sink a spade a foot deep and look at the soil at root level to decide.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2014 at 8:07AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I wasn't making making a decision on necessity of this particular instance. TY for clarifying if it sounded like that's what I meant.

The OM retained from the decomposing grass and roots are part of the benefit of using a smother method. I would prefer to till vs. removing the top soil where any possible micro-activity is going on, especially with the current decomposition you've made possible by smothering. Tilling OM into the soil could cause issues with chlorosis initially. Something to keep an eye on if/when it applies, but often considered a hurdle worth jumping when it's decided that a spot needs to be tilled to be able to dig in it initially. Ungardened ground can indeed be as hard as a rock.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2014 at 12:23PM
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