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gar_newbie(6)March 27, 2009

Hi Everyone,

First time gardener from Ohio need your help. TIA.

I am planning for vegetable plants in a wooden boxes of size 4 foot x 4 foot x 8 inches (=~ 11 cubic foot). Four of these boxes makes 45 cubic foot approximately.

I filled these four boxes with the soil less medium as following:

Coarse Vermiculite 15 cubic foot

Sphagnum Peat Moss  15 cubic foot

`Compost kind of` Â 15 cubic foot (1 cubic foot each of below)

I have searched 50+ of garden centers locally (zip code: 45040) and couldn't find so called "COMPOST". For next year I will be preparing my own compost so this question won't arise. But, to begin my first/fresh vegetable garden; in the place of compost I used the following

mix. I mixed them *VERY* thorough spending a week.

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Question: is the following mix 'OK' to begin my garden? Am I sort of something here? Am I going to kill the plants with Over dosage? Any other suggestions/ideas to help myself is greatly appreciated.

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My `Compost kind of` - 15 cubic foot is:

1.Mother Nature's  SWEET PEET  Composted soil conditioner  1 cubic foot

2.Nea's  POSY POWER  Powerful soil booster  1 cubic foot

3.Premier Horticulture  PRO MIX  Growing mix  1 cubic foot

4.Nature's Helper  MUSHROOM COMPOST  Organic soil  1 cubic foot

5.Garden Magic  COMPOST AND MANURE  Peat & Manure  1 cubic foot

6.Ace  COMPOSTED MANURE  Loosens soil  1 cubic foot

7.New Plant Life  MUSHROOM COMPOST SOIL  Soil amendment - 1 cubic foot

8.Garden Scape  PEAT HUMUS  Decomposed Organic  - 1 cubic foot

9.Garden Scape  COW MANURE  will not burn  1 cubic foot

10.Organic Valley  HUMUS  ready to use  1 cubic foot

11.Organic Valley  COW MANURE PLUS ORGANIC COMPOST  Ready to use  1 cubic foot

12.Organic Valley  ORGANIC COMPOST PLUS MANURE  Compost & manure  1 cubic foot

13.Garick  MOO NURE  Organic Compost with Cow Manure  1 cubic foot

14.Country Stone  COMPOSTED COW MANURE  Soil conditioner  1 cubic foot

15.Earth Gro  ORGANIC HUMUS AND MANURE  Soil amendment  1 cubic foot

Thanks & Regards

Ganesh

In detail (if you are still reading this post ;-) ) Assuming the

product is what the cover says.

1.Mother Nature's  SWEET PEET  Composted soil conditioner  1 cubic foot

Organic material made from wood shavings, farm manure & plant fibers (USCC)

2.Nea's  POSY POWER  Powerful soil booster  1 cubic foot

All Organic: Horse manure, sphagnum Peat, Brewer's Grain, Gypsum & lime

0.7% 0.45% 1.0%

3.Premier Horticulture  PRO MIX  Growing mix  1 cubic foot

Compost Enrich (from shrimp, seaweed, softwood bark), Microrise inside, Sphagnum Peat Moss, Peat Humus (OMRI)

4.Nature's Helper  MUSHROOM COMPOST  Organic soil  1 cubic foot

5.Garden Magic  COMPOST AND MANURE  Peat & Manure  1 cubic foot

Reed sedge Peat, Manure

0.1% 0.1% 0.1%

6.Ace  COMPOSTED MANURE  Loosens soil  1 cubic foot

0.5% 0.5% 0.5%

7.New Plant Life  MUSHROOM COMPOST SOIL  Soil amendment - 1 cubic foot

8.Garden Scape  PEAT HUMUS  Decomposed Organic  - 1 cubic foot

A decomposed organic forest peat fiber

9.Garden Scape  COW MANURE  will not burn  1 cubic foot

1% 1% 1%

10.Organic Valley  HUMUS  ready to use  1 cubic foot

11.Organic Valley  COW MANURE PLUS ORGANIC COMPOST  Ready to use  1 cubic foot

0.05% 0.05% 0.05% (USCC)

12.Organic Valley  ORGANIC COMPOST PLUS MANURE  Compost & manure  1 cubic foot

0.05% 0.05% 0.05%

13.Garick  MOO NURE  Organic Compost with Cow Manure  1 cubic foot

0.2% 0.2% 0.2% (USCC)

14.Country Stone  COMPOSTED COW MANURE  Soil conditioner  1 cubic foot

Cow manure, Peat and Humus

0.05% 0.05% 0.05%

15.Earth Gro  ORGANIC HUMUS AND MANURE  Soil amendment  1 cubic foot

90% organic humus (peat, compost, forest products) and 10% manure

0.05% 0.05% 0.05%

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ribbit32004

That's a lot to process, but have you tried calling landscape supply companies? They usually stock compost or other top soils and sell by the half or cubic yard. It sure would make the whole thing a lot easier.

    Bookmark   March 27, 2009 at 6:08PM
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tapla (mid-MI z5b-6a)

I think this mix will be extremely water-retentive (like mush). WHY do you feel you need so many different ingredients? Are the boxes resting on the ground (soil)? What are you using as a Ca source?

Al

    Bookmark   March 27, 2009 at 7:23PM
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gar_newbie(6)

I think I didn't understand the MEL's mix the way its actual intention is.

Based on the book 'square foot gardening' by 'mel bartholomew' (www.squarefootgardening.com) MEL's mix is:
1/3 Peat Moss
1/3 Coarse Vermiculite
1/3 Compost (from Various sources)

Whenever I visited a garden store in the search of 'COMPOST'- I Just bought one bag of whatever is available with them. (to ensure various sources)

The boxes are sitting on the ground just on top of weed protector cloth.

Thanks
Ganesh

    Bookmark   March 27, 2009 at 11:39PM
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listenstohorses(6 & 8)

I think I understand what you are doing Ganesh. I do kind of the same thing with horse feed. I buy one bag, bring it home and study the label and the feed to see if it may be what I want, things seldom are, lol.

I think you are doing the best with what you have but are looking to improve, yes?

I would say to look for old leaves from neighbors or landscapers, and a local stable for additional ingredieants for your beds/compost pile.

    Bookmark   March 28, 2009 at 8:04PM
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Melissa Houser

Ganesh, The term "various sources" means that you want compost that is created from different things, such as: mushroom compost (based on mushrooms as the main ingredient), then cow compost (based on cow manure as the main ingredient). Mel suggests that you use five different types of compost.

In my first SFG, I used mushroom, horse, cow and some homemade compost. I firmly believe homemade is the best because you add so many different ingredients. I've added both kangaroo and chicken manure to my compost barrel, along with horse poo (from horses riding down the street).

    Bookmark   March 29, 2009 at 11:01AM
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