your opinion on Rose de Berne

ikea_gwFebruary 28, 2012

Got these seeds through a seed exchange. Anyone grew them before? How's the yield and flavor? Are they easy to skin for sauce?

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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Yes, I've grown it and see the link below. I think it's far too juicy to be used for sauce with too many seeds,

There's also a Rose de Lucerne, also from Switzerland which is almost identical to the Berne one. It's about the same situation one sees with certain other varieties such as the Fiorentinos from Italy which are named for a geographic area or place name but pretty much all the same,

For sauce I think you'd be better off with some paste varieties or some heart varieties both of which have dense flesh with few seeds or mix some hearts and some dense fleshed beefsteak varieties together b/c most paste varieties IMO experience, are not known for great taste.

There are many threads here about sauce tomatoes if you do a search.

Hope that helps.


Here is a link that might be useful: Rose de Berne

    Bookmark   February 29, 2012 at 5:43PM
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Thanks Carolyn. I am growing Opalka, San Marzano Redorta and Hungarian Heart but like you said they are not generally the tastiest tomatoes. In the past I had used Brandywine in the mix to a good effect but it is not the most productive plant. So this year I am looking for a productive medium size tomato to add to the mix. I was thinking of either Eva Purple Ball or Rose de Berne. If Rose de Berne is too juicy and seedy, what about Eva Purple Ball?

    Bookmark   February 29, 2012 at 8:41PM
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This is a regular in my garden. What I like about it: perfectly smooth, round, beautiful fruit. Very nice taste. Great slicer. Reliable from one year to the next (in my garden anyway).

    Bookmark   February 29, 2012 at 9:02PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Gary, I agree that Rose de Berne is a round beautiful variety and so is Eva Purple Ball, but I just don't see them as being tomatoes for sauce, that's all I'm saying.

To add taste to a mix of varieties being used for sauce, as I said above I think one should consider some larger more desnse fleshed beefsteak type varieties such as:

Tidwell German
Tennesse Britches
Aker's West Virginia
Red Penna
Stump of the World
Omar's Lebanese
Large Pink Bulgarian name a few

And many many heart varieties of which I could also name a few, if needed.

No two folks make sauce with the same varieties, so all I'm trying to do it to make some suggestions for the original poster.


    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 1:30AM
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Yeah, I most decidedly agree that some of the oxers are superior saucing candidates compared to most of the "paste" toms. Now perish that I would change the subject, but in regard to TN Britches (which I intend to try for first time), is it typically a 100 dayer ?


    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 11:33AM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

If you look in an SSE YEarbook and see what those who have grown it say about the DTM you'll find numbers all over the place but leaning towards late midseason to early Late season. And I define any variety over 80 days as late season.

For me here in upstate NY it was about a 75-80 day variety grown in that particular year.

Below is a link to Tania's tomato data base for this variety so you can see some other reports, some pictures and some seed saources when you scroll down.


Here is a link that might be useful: Tennessee Britches

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 2:43PM
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I love this tomato; it is so sweet and great for slicing; makes a great tomato sandwich. It is reliable (for me anyway) year after year. Haven't had trouble with fusarium wilt on it.

    Bookmark   September 18, 2014 at 4:26PM
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old thread, it bothers me that Hungarian heart got placed with San Marzano in " not tastiest " tomatoes... huh?

    Bookmark   September 18, 2014 at 5:11PM
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