Just ordered my mango trees!

BestDay23April 28, 2012

Just ordered 12 mango trees! I think I've lost my mind! After reading and rereading posts here I decided that I really can't make an educated guess until I have tried the different species. Also just because it grows or tastes great in Florida doesn't mean it will in Southern California. So I decided to buy a bunch, grow them to fruiting size and then decide which ones to keep. I figure I can sell my least favorite ones on Craig's List. So today I ordered:

7 gallon Maha Chanook - tastes great?

3 gallon NDM

3 gallon Lemon Zest

3 gallon Pickering- dwarf

7 gallon Edward

7 gallon Rosigold - early season

7 gallon Valencia Pride - grows fast in SoCal

3 gallon Dot

3 gallon Southern Blush - Beautiful fruit

3 gallon Cogshell

7 gallon Ice Cream - dwarf supposedly thrives in SoCal

7 gallon Kent

I'll post pictures when they get here. I'm looking forward to growing and trying these delicious trees.

Bill

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longanluva(9)

Hi Bill, I like your plan. Did you get a special price for ordering so many mango trees? Where did you order it from? What part of SoCal do you live in? Look forward to see those babies.
Max

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Bill - nothing like jumping in!!!!!!!!
How exciting....it takes me back to my first purchase
or two.....seems so long ago..... :)

Yes, post pictures when they arrive and keep a journal on "Photobucket" or somewhere where you can keep track
and have a record of how things go....

GOOD LUCK - mangoshepperd

    Bookmark   April 29, 2012 at 12:06AM
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BestDay23

I wish I got a special price. I figured if I'm going to pay an extra $55 per shipment for inspection I might as well do as few orders as possible.

I ordered from POG and TT. I know there are mixed reviews on the plants from TT but their 7 gallons with shipping are about the same price as POG for a 3 gallon. And to be honest I was worried about getting root bound trees from POG. I will see when the plants get here. I don't know how you can have a 6 foot tree in a 3 gallon pot and it's not root bound. On the other hand TT root balls (I think that's the right term) their 7 gallon plants and that is stressful on them. I'll have to wait and see. I figured I'd hedge my bet and split the order between them.

I live in Long Beach. We get a little warmer than most coastal cities but we also get a little colder during the winter.

Now I eagerly wait.

Bill

    Bookmark   April 29, 2012 at 1:15AM
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nursejolly

Wow Bill! That's awesome! I'm picking up my NDM from flowerdale nursery in Orange today. I live in Glendale, CA and I got the mango fever too. I plan on ordering some from TT soon too ( Keo Savoy, Okrung, Pim San mun- all the thai varieties. My moms from Thailand so those were the best Thai ones according to her) so be sure to post how you like your trees. good luck! Post pictures soon!

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Congrats Bill!! I'm SO excited for you!! I too can't wait to see the pictures...so when did they say you might get them?

Best of luck growing them!

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BestDay23

POG is going to ship my trees Monday. That means I should have them Thursday or Friday.

I'm really looking forward to the 7 gallon Maha Chanook. I've been reading the forums here and I can't seam to find any info on the mature size of the Maha Chanook. Does anyone know?

Bill

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invar69(9)

Congrats! Did you get your Maha from PoG?

    Bookmark   April 29, 2012 at 11:00PM
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BestDay23

Yes. He was out of 3 gallons. I figure it's a slow grower so I should get the 7 gallon anyways. They say the difference in Florida between a 3 gallon and a 7 gallon is a year or so. I figure in California the difference is at least two years. So for an extra $75 I bought two years!

Bill

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newgen(9 Central California)

TT = a banned name on GW?
POG =??

Thanks,

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BestDay23

Plantogram appears to be fine to talk about. I don't know what happened but I guess TT got the wrong people mad.

This forum is all about sharing information. I don't know about you but to me, especially in California, where to buy my plants is a big deal. It would be nice if it was encouraged for people to talk about where they got there plants and what the experience was like.

By the way my NDM4, Maha Chanook, Pickering and Lemon Zest shipped today. I should have them Thursday! I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas day.

Bill

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

lol....and yes, it DOES feel Christmas when they arrive.....patience is not a mango growers virtue,
either....

enjoy it all......mangowhippet

    Bookmark   April 30, 2012 at 11:56PM
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jfernandez(10B)

Congratulation Bill!

All your mangos should do very well in your climate. Are you going to keep them in containers or plant them?

JF

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BestDay23

I have space to plant 5 or 6 in my backyard. I may plant 1 or 2 in the front or side yard. I plan on keeping most of them in containers until I can taste the fruit. Then I will decide which ones to plant. My plan is to repot the 3 gallons into 7 gallons and the 7 gallons into 15 gallons (if they need it). The plants from POG are coming in pots. Should I repot them when they get here or let them get through the shock of shipping and then repot them? Also any advice on how to help the plants adjust to there new environment? I am planning on keeping them in shade for about a week and giving them some vitamin B. Does that sound like a good plan?

The plants that come from TT will be root balled so I plan on repoting them up a size when they get here.

I think us SoCal guys should get together this fall and have a mango tasting of our own. I think it would be great to see your trees and try different mangos. I probably won't have any from my trees but I could buy some at the store and bring them! We could compare fresh off the tree mangos to store bought.

Bill

    Bookmark   May 1, 2012 at 12:52PM
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BestDay23

Also what kind of potting soil should I use? In the past for my Palms and Bananas I have used SuperSoil Palm and Cactus mix. It is a fast draining mix. But I have also tried, and didn't like, Kelloggs Palm and Cactus mix. I didn't like it because it drained so fast that I was always watering. I've never grown Mangos. If you guys haven't used either of these soils then I guess I'm asking do I need a fast draining soil or a super fast draining soil (feels and looks like mostly sand and perlite).

Thanks,
Bill

    Bookmark   May 1, 2012 at 8:22PM
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jfernandez(10B)

Hi Bill

I wouldn't pot-up any of the 3G and I would put all the 7G on the ground if you have space. I am many years away from holding a mango tasting event. MangoDog has a beautiful mature-productive Manila that bears tasty fruits, I have been told, maybe we can head up to the desert this fall. Most of my mangos are resting this year I cut the flowers off....I want them to concentrate on growing. I would stay away from Kelloggs. Here is a good link that I talk about the mix I use for my potted mangos. Buy the best mix you can afford.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tropicalfruits/msg1119113916692.html

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Yes, Would love to see you guys out here in the late summer early fall for some tasting. I'll probably have some Alphonso and Edward, maybe Haden and Valencia Pride and Keitt and the Manila of course- but not many except for the Manila, just a few, but it would be interesting to compare differences like they do at Harry's place in Florida.
I keep debating with myself how many mangos to leave on the 2-3 year old plants - 2? 3? 5? 7?...I'm leaning towards the lower numbers. JF - what do you think? We just don't have the long growing season like they have in Florida. I think we lose like 4 months of growth every year due to cold, and the growth period really takes off after the fruit is OFF the branches....

Things should only get better every year for all of us, right? OH, and BestDay - listen to JF on the repotting - he definitely has the right mix and advice!

mangopooch

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BestDay23

Thanks for the advice guys. I will read your post on soil. I don't want to repot right away if I don't have to. But I am concerned that some of the 3 gallons are so large they are rootbound or very close to it.

Mangodog, a tree ripe VP and Edward would be very nice to try. I can't wait until I have fruit from my trees. That is why I spent the extra money and got 7 gallons when I could. I figure I'm that much closer to getting fruit.

Bill

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simon_grow

Hey Bill, please keep us updated on your mango trees. I have ordered trees from both POG and TT and they both delivered good quality trees to me. If you can, I would always recommend planting your trees into the ground after they have acclimated to your climate. What I mean is that if you know you are going to plant your tree in the ground, do it sooner rather than later. Best to avoid letting a tree sit in a pot for several months before planting it.

Have you ever checked out Ong's Nursery? Its down in San Diego and they have many many different varieties of mangoes. I went last week and they have Edwards, Kent, Manilla, Lancitilla, Pickering, Alphonso, Glenn, Carrie, Valencia Pride, Nam Doc Mai, Cogshall, Ice Cream and probably a few others I forgot.

Whenever possible, I like to see the tree I get before I make a purchase but this is not always possible.

Sign me up for the fruit tasting!I might get one Glenn and possibly one Alphonso from my trees this year. In a couple years, I hope to have lots of Dragonfruit, Cherimoya and stonefruits to share.
Simon

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BestDay23

I have not been to Ong's. I plan on going after he gets his next order of Mango Trees in. I called him last week and really wanted to buy from him. The advantage being that I could see the trees before I bought them and knowing that they are already acclimated to our weather. But when I talked to him on the phone the only varieties he had in stock that I was interested in was Rosigold and Ice Cream (2 feet tall!). He didn't say that he had the Kent, Edwards, Pickering, NDM or Valencia Pride in stock. So instead of waiting I decided to make an order of my own.

There are a couple of trees that I'm going to plant right away. Having never tasted them I'm going to plant them in the ground based on other people opinions and their growth habit. But the others I plan on growing in pots (15G-25G) until I can taste the fruit. Then I will decide which ones to keep. I can only plant a total of 6-8 trees. So some will have to be sold after tasting them.

What varieties are you growing and which ones would you recommend?

Bill

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simon_grow

Not only did he have those other varieties but the Kent, Edwards and some other varieties were actually in about a 65-100 gallon tub. You would need to rent a U-haul to pick it up. His larger Kent and Edwards are about 6-8 feet tall, kinda hard to determine actual height because the tubs themselves are very high. I'm absolutely sure he had these trees because I saw them with my own eyes.

I'm growing Nam Doc Mai, Maha Chanook, Glenn, Alphonso, Manilla and a lot of seedlings. Alphonso has a stong taste that may take some getting used to but I love the unique flavor. Nam Doc mai is a very good mango that is fiberless, sweet and just delicious. A perfectly ripened Kent mango is also very very delicious.

I just planted my mango trees last year so I have never harvested any fruit off my trees. My R.I.P. Carrie and NDM were each holding two very small fruit last year but I plucked them off.

I haven't tasted the majority of mangoes you have listed so I can't really make a recommendation. Of the ones I have tasted, Kent and Nam Doc Mai are my favorite.

Have you considered grafting multiple varieties onto a tree so that you can have variety and an extended harvest season while saving space? Dave Wilson's Nursery has good information and videos on backyard horticulture. You can plant multiple trees in a hole in order to maximize the number of varieties you have while saving space and extending the season.
Simon

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BestDay23

That makes sense on the other varieties at Ong's. He did say he had a large Edward for sale but when I heard the price I wasn't interested. He probably didn't tell me about the other varieties you listed because they were larger specimens also.

I will watch the videos at Dave Wilson's Nursery. Thanks for the advice. I'm not really interested in grafting multiple varieties onto one tree. I don't know why but I just don't like the idea. Multiple trees in one hole is a good idea and a good way to save space. If I planted three of the very large vigorous growers in one hole I think it would keep them at a reasonable size. The only drawback being that I imagine they would grow slower since the roots would be competing with each other. The same way that a multi palm tree will grow slower than and individual palm tree. But a Kent, Edward and Southern Blush multi would be interesting.

What is your largest tree?

Bill

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cuban007(9b)

Bill you should get some nice trees from TT. I got a beautiful Sweet Tart from them.

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phxplantaddict

Problem with multigrafted mangoes is that one type will always take over the others. Thats why you never see mango cocktail trees for sale

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gtw7983

Hi BestDay23, Have you got your mango trees delivered yet? Any pictures you can post? Thanks!

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BestDay23

Well, Christmas came early at my house! The trees were delivered yesterday. I have to say that POG did a very good job at packaging the trees. The boxes were pretty banged up but the trees were in great shape.

Maha Chanook 5.5 feet tall, 1.25" trunk and about 6 lateral branches. The tree has been pugged otherwise I think it would be 8 feet tall! Very nice tree and definitely worth the extra money over a 3 gallon.

NDM4 3.5 feet tall, 1" trunk and 6 large lateral shoots. Again it has been pugged otherwise would be much taller. For a 3 gallon tree that is semi dwarf it is a hell of a specimen.

Pickering almost 4 feet tall, 3/4" trunk and 3 large lateral shoots. Again tree has been pugged. Very nice tree considering it is a dwarf variety.

Lemon Zest 5 feet tall, 7/8" trunk and 4 small lateral shoots. Again it has been pugged. Least impressive specimen of the four trees.

These are all very nice trees considering some of the pictures I've seen of some mail order 3 gallon trees. I will have some 3 gallon and 7 gallon trees coming next week from TT to compare these trees to. After seeing these trees I think TT will have a hard time impressing me.

I have taken pictures but right now don't have a way to get them on the internet. My desktop computer is down with a virus and my laptop doesn't have my email setup on it. I'm going to try and get my laptop connected to my email so I can upload pics.

My plan is to keep these trees in the shade for a week or two. I'm also going to give them some vitamin B and treat them with a fungicide. Any other advice?

Simon, How large are your trees and what is your fastest growing variety. MangoDog and JFernandez (two other SoCal guys)both said that their Alphonso's where their fastest growing trees.

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BestDay23

Alright, here are the pics. We will see if this works.

Maha Chinook

NDM4

Pickering

Lemon Zest

Also I changed my order with TT. I deleted the 7 gallon Kent and added a 3 gallon Julie.

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Congrats on all your NICE Mango trees!! You have some great varieties there...Best of luck growing them all. Thanks for the pictures!!

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nursejolly

Hi Bill! I just ordered 3 trees from TT. All thai varieties- Keo Savoy, Okrung, and Pim Sen. I'm really excited! I will post pictures too once they arrive.

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longanluva(9)

Hey Bill, those are some awsome quality trees. I can feel the joy your having. I had pickering from POG a couple of months ago and I was so happy, I feel like a little kid again. Thanks for sharing.

Nursejolly, can' t wait to see trees too. So exciting getting new trees, evan if im not getting
Max

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cuban007(9b)

Bill, looks like you will have a Mango grove real soon. Just wanted to share my experience with you on TT. They probably have the best packaging that I have seen so far and the biggest healthiest trees that I have received so far. Let us know when you get your shipment from TT. Enjoy your Mango trees.

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BestDay23

Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm really looking forward to the trees from TT. To be able to order 7 gallons is very nice and their shipping is less than POG. A dwarf mango tree in a 7 gallon is almost full size! Well not really but real close. We shall see.

Bill

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

well, Merry Christmas Bill!

You are right, they are excellent specimens....is that all the ones you got from POG? So the rest will be from TT?

Happy New Year!

mangopup

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karbas

hi guys! just ordered two new grafted mango tree, however i am not sure what kind of grafting is this. could u guys plz identify, i have searched online but not yet found the kind of grafting used.yours suggestion will be of great help to me. thanks!

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Not sure either, Karbas, but the one on the right looks like a veneer....but more odd to me is the fact it looks like the tree had been laying on its side for all the branches to grow at that funny angle before it was righted, or they were under a shade structure and grew towards the light...

Also, can't see the tops of the plants - what do they look like???

mangoKibble

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yonip69(10A)

Bill, How much is the mango and how much shipping is your 7 gallon Maha Chanook 5.5 feet tall, 1.25" trunk and about 6 lateral branches from PoG. Right now Mickey only got 3 gallon with 4-5 ft tall and do not know how big is the trunk for total of $208.00. Because I want to order one.

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jfernandez(10B)

Very nice trees Bill. You won't be disappointed with your TT order.

JF

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BestDay23

Cuban007, it is good to hear about your experience with TT. I will receive the rest of my trees (from TT) tomorrow. I will let you guys know what kind of condition they are in. I'm a little scared because they rootball their plants and I know that puts more stress on the trees. My Lemon Zest from POG is starting to wilt and drop leaves. The other three trees still look good. So now I'm worried about the rootballing process.

Yonip69, my 7 gallon Maha Chanok was $150 plus $75 shipping. I don't know what the total was for just that one tree since I ordered four trees. Since I'm in California POG had to do the certificate for California inspection. That cost extra but I didn't see it billed separately on the invoice. I was just charged a total for shipping and handling of the four trees. I know at the time (last week) the 3 gallons were $100 plus $50 shipping but he was out of stock. Mickey said he wouldn't have anymore till the end of summer and they would be small. So he must have got more trees from Excalibur.

JF, I hope you are right. I would be real bummed if I lost several trees. I'll post pics after the trees get here.

Bill

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jfernandez(10B)

Hi Bill

Use kelp to help with the transport/transplant shock. Your trees will lose leaves but make sure to keep them in the SHADE for two to three weeks. Also, water them everyday for the first week.

Good Luck!
JF

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cuban007(9b)

The wilting and dropping of the leaves it's normal. Within a few weeks you will see the plants pushing new growth. JF, has given you good advise. Follow it and you will be very happy in a few months. Keep us updated.

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nursejolly

JF-keeping the trees in the shade for 2-3 weeks. Do you mean like in a dark garage or like a more shady area of your backyard? Also is that specifically for root balled trees or any tree you get from a nursery?

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BestDay23

Well I posted a reply but it didn't take so I'll try again.

Yes, Mangodog those are the four trees I got from POG. The other 8 trees are coming from TT today. I'm glad to hear that they have large, healthy and well packaged trees. We shall see.

Yonip69, when I ordered my tree 1-2 weeks ago Mickey only had the 7 gallons in stock. He said it would be several months before he had small 3 gallon trees in stock. I decided to go ahead and order the 7 gallon. It was $150 for the tree with $75 shipping. That is a lot of money but my options were limited. I figure he must of got more trees from Excalibur. I don't know what the exact total was because I ordered four trees. There might have been other fees involved that weren't detailed on my invoice. I know that since I am in California there was an inspection fee. Where do you live?

I think one of my trees from POG may have anthracnose. I'll post pictures later so you guys can let me know what you think. I bought an anti fungus spray at Home Depot but couldn't find a copper spray. Is copper illegal in Califonia? Does anyone know if the anti fungal sprays are hard on the plants? If not I was going to spray all the trees as a preventative measure.

Bill

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yonip69(10A)

Bill,
I'm from San Diego. You ordered alot of mango varieties, that is very nice. I wish I can do that because those trees are very expensive. I have 6 yrs old manila mango from ONG's and 7 gallon NDM from TT. 5 varieties of cherimoya all blooming, and 6 still young varieties of pomegranate and few more fruit trees.

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BestDay23

Am I just paranoid or is this anthracnose?

Bill

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BestDay23

Yonip69, those trees sound very nice. How big is the 7 gallon NDM from TT. My friend is thinking about buying one.

Bill

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yonip69(10A)

Bill, It looks like your 3 gallon NDM#4 but bigger, trunk size is 4 inches around the trunk and length is 2' 7". Overall length with branches is 4' 7" very nice tree. I just ordered this morning a 3 gallon MC from Mickey, but I am worried because I did not talk to Mickey before I order (line was very busy). I do not know what size is trunk. it says "Limited quantity available trees good size 4-5 feet tall". Hopefully it will be like your 7 gallon MC because they got same price.

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dnt72800

Hi Yonip
I would call Mickey to confirm the 3 gallon maha chanook....even though it is listed on his site....I talked to him days ago and he told me won't be avail till august....plus will be only ~ 1-2 ft tall.
cheers
DT

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BestDay23

Yonip, I would also recommend calling Mickey. I should have told you last week his website showed the 3 gallon in stock but it wasn't. That is when he told me about the 7 gallon.

My trees finally came. After delivering my trees one day late last week FedEx delivered my trees at 9:30 pm Friday! 9:30 at night! Needless to say I'm not very impressed with them. The trees from TT are very, very nice. They were packaged very well, in very good shape, very nice size and the 7 gallons are truely small trees. I will have pictures up tomorrow.

The Julie and Ice Cream both appear to have Anthracnose. Does anyone know if I should treat the trees now with an antifugal spray or wait until they are over the shock of shipping? I figure with the dry air of SoCal only a couple of antifungal sprays should be needed to get rid of it.

We will see how these trees from TT handle the shock of shipping compared to the trees from POG. The trees from TT were rootballed but not as much soil was removed as I thought would be. Some of the trees looked like they were pulled out of their pots and then the rootballs were wrapped in plastic. It looked like 99% of the soil was shipped with the plants. Three of the trees were rootbound. One of the seven gallons and two of the three gallons. When I up pot the plants in several weeks I will loosen the roots before I re pot. I'm pretty sure some of the plants from POG are rootbound also. They are very big plants for the size containers they are in. I will have to wait and see until I up pot those plants.

As long as these trees from TT don't go into shock and die I would have to say that they are a much better value than POG. When you add up the cost of the tree and shipping you can get a seven gallon from TT for the same cost as a three gallon from POG. I can tell you the seven gallons from TT are very nice trees! When you guys see the picture of the seven gallon Ice Cream you will be amazed. It looks like ten fruit should be hanging from it right now! I am positive it will fruit next summer. Pics tomorrow.

Bill

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yonip69(10A)

Bill, I will do as you said, I will call him Monday. Thanks

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yonip69(10A)

Bill, Is your MC 7 gallon grafted? The trunk of your MC is covered. Yap we want to see picture of your new arrival fruit trees.

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BestDay23

Yes, it is grafted. Supposedly Mickey just buys them at Excalibur and sells them on the internet. All I know is if you want a Maha Chanok in California he is your only option.

Bill

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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Hey Yonip!

SHOW US SOME PICTURES!

I have an 8 yr old manila and would love to compare our sizes. How many fruits have you had on your Manila, like last year????

Bill - I have received plants that appear to have a little anthracnose from the Florida growers too, before. But it seemed to go away in my hot dry climate. I'm not sure I'd worry about the one you showed us a picture of. It didn't look too bad to me. Is it real damp and cloudy this time of year down where you are in Long Beach? If not, the stuff may just go away. If I were you and I wasn't sure, I'd google anthracnose, Southern California and see what you come up with. I know JF who lives in La Habra had some issues with it in the past, and he may have some insight for you....that is if he sees this post....

Keep us abreast...

DogOfMango

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BestDay23

MangoDog, thanks for the advice. I figure the anthracnose will go away on its own. I was just wondering if their was anything I could do to help it disappear a little faster. The Julie and Ice Cream that I got from TT had anthracnose also. I noticed that the new growth on the Julie yesterday had black curved ends. So I sprayed the Julie and Ice Cream with a Copper Soap Fungicide I bought at Lowes. Hopefully that does more good then bad. Hopefully it won't hammer the plants and put them into more shock. That Ice Cream is nice. It is a full on dwarf tree! About 4 feet tall and 3.5 feet wide. It should fruit for sure next summer.

Bill

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cuban007(9b)

Bill I have bought Mango trees from TT and I was very impressed with the quality and the careful packaging of the plants. In my opinion, the 3gal trees are a better value than the 7gal trees. The Valencia Pride you can buy them locally here in SoCal. They do very well here. I have two and they are in full bloom. I think you're going to be very happy with the Mangoes from TT. I am thinking about ordering a Neelum, Rosigold or Spirit of 76. Enjoy!!!!

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 9:35PM
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yonip69(10A)

MangoDog, I just bought my manila mango 2 months ago from nursery so it's nothing compared to your big manila mango tree, I have pictures of my manila mango in the Philippines with plenty of fruits just taken few months ago but then resolution is too big and I don't know how to download it sorry.

Bill, I followed your advice and luckily Mickey had one maha chanook 7 gallon left so I took it. Thanks a lot to your help..

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 9:50PM
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BestDay23

Congrats on the Maha Chanok. Post pictures when you get it. Now there is 3 or 4 Maha Chanoks in SoCal that I know of. After paying all this money I hope the fruit is as good as everyone says. Time will tell.

Bill

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 12:03PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Bill - I've got a Maha - just bought it last December from Plant-O-G and it's got 2 nice sized fruit on it now. It was a nice sized tree when i got it, too ....so we'll see how it tastes these first two....quick pic....

Mdog

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 3:31PM
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BestDay23

Mdog, that is exciting to see. Maybe the first Southern California grown Maha Chanok? How big was the tree when you got it and how big is it now? You give me hope that I may have fruit from mine next summer.

Bill

    Bookmark   May 19, 2012 at 10:00PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

...just one growth flush the end of last year, and then the flowers and the fruits this spring. I think the tree was about a 4 1/2 footer....yeah, I'm not sure if anyone else has any fruit on their SoCal Maha's yet....guess we'll find out.....

Mr. Dog

    Bookmark   May 20, 2012 at 2:07AM
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charleslou23

why the trellis mdog? Wind protection?

let us know how those taste...

    Bookmark   May 22, 2012 at 3:57PM
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BestDay23

Little update for you guys. It has been two and a half weeks and all trees are doing great. The NDM is having a major growth flush and the Pickering has what I think are small flowers on it! In a couple of days I'll be able to tell for sure but it looks like the stress of shipping made it flower!?

Bill

    Bookmark   May 22, 2012 at 4:46PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Good News - Best Day - keep doin' what you're doing - no radical changes....

Charles - well....I have these wire cages on other smaller mango trees that allowed me to easily cover them in wintertime with the frostcloth, but obviously this one is way too big for that....the other reason I keep it on - I have 4 really large palm trees towering above it. If a palm frond happens to fall on the Maha, from that kind of height it could decapitate the tree at ground level. If it falls with this support thing on it, chances are it wouldn't snap it at ground level. Gotta look out for those extremem possibilities when dealing with these valuable trees, of course.

And when it gets to be 6-8 feet high, I'll cut it out of course as it will have more plant to protect it from high-falling objects. Don't forget we get some pretty good winds out here, and the palm trees take that opportunity to dump their baggage....

mangoD

    Bookmark   May 23, 2012 at 1:15PM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

Hi Guys,

So I've order some mango trees too. I got the fever from this forum. Here what I ordered:

from TT:

Tong Dom 7G
Mun Kun Si 3G
Okrung 3G
Pim Seng Mun 7G

from PIN:

Nam Doc Mai 3G
Valencia Pride 3G
Tebow 3G
Choc-anon 3G
Gold Nugget 3G
Sapodilla Alano 3G (not mango)

I'll let you know when I get them in a couple of weeks.

    Bookmark   May 23, 2012 at 5:02PM
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BestDay23

Nice, another SoCal guy growing mangoes. gotsomerice, please post pics when you get them. What city are you in?

Ten mango trees at once. You almost have the bug as bad as I do.

Bill

    Bookmark   May 23, 2012 at 8:30PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

HEY Gotso - welcome to the wonderful world....yeah, you got the bug bad, too! Yes what city are we talking about here......

keep us posted.....

mangodawg

    Bookmark   May 24, 2012 at 12:30AM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

I'm in Hollywood, Sunset Zone 23.

    Bookmark   May 24, 2012 at 4:41PM
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yonip69(10A)

Hey Gotso, You are from Sunset Hollywood Los Angeles right, just to clear it up because your USDA plant hardiness zone is way too high. maybe you are zone 9, sorry..

    Bookmark   May 24, 2012 at 7:41PM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

I think my USDA is 10a.

    Bookmark   May 24, 2012 at 8:05PM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

This link might help. Sunset zone is much more accurate and more details than USDA. Western people rarely use USDA zone for plants.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sunset Climate Zone

    Bookmark   May 24, 2012 at 8:11PM
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tropicbreezent

".... I really can't make an educated guess until I have tried the different species. Also just because it grows or tastes great in Florida doesn't mean it will in Southern California."

You made a right decision there. Often people don't understand that climate, soil type, daylength/sun strength, can affect not only the growth of a plant but also the taste of the fruit.

It's interesting to see a bit of "mango-mania" happening, I'm a bit at the opposite end of the scale. I'm down sizing the number of my trees. But I'll be keeping enough to supply myself, family and friends. For varieties I have NDM, KP, R2E2, and 'Strawberry'. There's another which the former owner developed but he never registered or propagated it. It produces a lot of nice fruit. He told me it had a long shelf-life.

My neighbour had a real lot of varieties (he sold out a few years ago). The new owner isn't all that interested in them. Most are quite big trees now, about 12 to 15 metres high.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2012 at 12:56AM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

Last Friday I got these from TT via USPS.

Okrung 3G (Shorter one)
Mun Kun Si 3G (Taller one) This one is about 3 feet.

Here how they were packed.

I am pretty happy with them. Waiting for the rest this week (hopefully).

    Bookmark   June 7, 2012 at 6:19PM
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BestDay23

Very nice looking trees! Nice green healthy looking leaves. I hope the rest look just as nice as those do. Remember to keep them in shade for the first two weeks.

Bill

    Bookmark   June 8, 2012 at 1:33AM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

Bill
I actually planted them in the ground right way. They seem to be doing fine. We will see.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2012 at 5:41PM
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BestDay23

Ok, expect them to drop some leaves at about 7-10 days. Don't forget to water them heavy. We are having hot dry weather and with their diminished root function they will need a lot of water. Good luck.

When is your PIN order supposed to come in?

Bill

    Bookmark   June 8, 2012 at 7:29PM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

Bill,
Nope I still don't have my PIN order. The other 2 mangos from TT came Friday. Both were infested with scales. I sprayed them off.

Tong Dom 7G and Pim Seng Mun 7G

    Bookmark   June 11, 2012 at 5:02PM
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BestDay23

Nice looking trees. A lot or fresh green leaves. Now I'm worried about scale on my trees I need to check mine. I'm new to a lot of this. What does scale do?

I'm surprised you didn't order a Cushman from PIN. They are supposed to be amazing and PIN is the only mail order nursery that has them.

Bill

    Bookmark   June 13, 2012 at 11:18AM
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gotsomerice(Sunset 23)

Bill,
Make sure you remove all the scale insects from under the leaves and destroy them. Then check them again in a month cause the eggs will hatch.

No I did not order Cushman. PIN should come this Friday. They forgot to send mine order last week! No idea what's that is all about. They said the order got held up.

Here is a link that might be useful: Soft Brown Scales

    Bookmark   June 13, 2012 at 1:37PM
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Nitin_Verma(9-10)

Nice to see like minded people here.

I have couple of question, if any of you answer that would be good.

1) What is PIN, POG and TT ? I figured POG(PlatOGram) and TT(T*pTropic#$s). Still need to find what PIN stands for ?

2) Where you can buy seedling trees (Not Grafted) ? Looking for commercial production.

3) Can we buy seeds somewhere ?

4) Any of you explored commercially producing this variety mango in SOCAL ? Would like to here your opinions on this ?

Thanks in Advance.
Nitin

    Bookmark   July 2, 2012 at 7:11PM
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Nitin_Verma(9-10)

Ordered My Mango plant today from TT.

1) 7 Gal Mallika
2) 3 Gal Alphonso

Can't wait for them to ship it.

    Bookmark   July 17, 2012 at 12:05PM
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shflower

Nitin,
PIN- Pine Island Nur....

    Bookmark   September 14, 2012 at 3:08PM
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mango-grafter

Hi guys,

I also have the mango-virus and about 15 different trees. I also graft them myself.

How are your trees doing in SoCal? Mine are flowering now but i live in the tropics.

I saw only small trees on this page but is it so hard to buy them in california? I have never been in the usa so i have no idea what the climate is like there.

Mahanchanook is a slow grower but nam doc mai should grow fast. Chockanon is my fastest grower and that one can have multiply harvests a year.

I would like to help you guys if i can. Dont be afraid for anthracnose because i read you guys have a dry climate, not what we have here. The plants that saw above dont impress me but maybe for usa this is the standard?

    Bookmark   November 4, 2012 at 4:55AM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Mango-Grafter - email me at myamberdog@gmail.com for some up-to-date mango info for SoCal....

Mango Dog

    Bookmark   November 4, 2012 at 12:59PM
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GreenWish

Just bought my first house, it was always my desire, hope and dream to own a house with a backyard that I can grow some Mango trees with some citrus trees. I understand that Mango Trees will take sometime from planting to fruiting?
I am afraid that time has ran away from me, and I woke up and found that I am growing old fast, my life is slipping away. If I want to realize my dream I need to plant some Mango trees and they should bare fruit within a year, can anyone help me, what should I be asking for and what type of variety can I ask for?, any place I can buy the trees from to ship to Conchella Valley area (Palm Springs), I like to get contact names and suggested Variety name(s), I like the Kents and champagne mango. I also heard about Glenn Mangos, but never had the pleasure of tasting them, and hints and support will be appreciated

    Bookmark   December 5, 2012 at 10:37PM
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manny8077

I just bought a lancetilla mango and want to buy to more either a kent, glenn or mallika which two should I buy

    Bookmark   December 10, 2012 at 11:12PM
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Nitin_Verma(9-10)

manny8077,

I'm growing Mallika in Socal. So far so good. I suggest you to try one.

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sapote(10a)

Hello mango lovers,

I'm Brian live in Burbank, Ca 91501. I had tried to grow a Edward and a Kent trees, twice in two years for a total of 4 trees, and they all died on me after the cold wet winters. I think my problem was too much water. I bought them from ebay air shipped from Puerto Rico. I currently have a 3ft Manila (Home Depot)and 4 2-yr-old seedlings from eating fruits.

Anyone have an Edward or something good for sale? or point me to the right place to buy (sapote.dang@gmaildotcom).
I also have a 11 year old Suebelle Sapote (from Anderson nursery in Vista) with ton of delicous fruits, a small Jack Fruit, and many different kind of Cherimoya.

Thanks,
Brian

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 8:01PM
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sapote(10a)

I did some search of nursery in florida and think I know pog, pin, and tt. I will check their sites and order some trees. Those trees you guys had from them looked very nice and big. The ones I ordered from Puerto rice were in much bad shape with a tiny rootballs, but I had them survived and grew the whole year until the cold wet winter.

Brian

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 8:43PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Hi Brian - do you cover your trees in the winter? Not sure the wet alone will kill them. Did you get frost last year?
If so, young mango trees DEFINITELY need covering in order to survive those kinds of temps.

Not sure if covering them would have prevented their death, but if you got down to 32 degrees, it would have been absolutely necesary to give them some protection.

I used to live on Barham Blvd., up behind Universal Studios but now live in Palm Springs. I'm attaching a picture of my 9 year old Manila mango from last May planted out here - actually a very good choice for hardiness, in my humble opinion....and produced 110 mangoes!

keep us posted.......mangowoofie

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 6:15PM
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palmspringsplumie(9b)

Hi Mangodog, I was just getting all excited about being able to grow mangos in Palm Springs when I realized most varieties will ripen while we are away for the summer! What are the latest ripening varieties with the best flavor? Thanks! Claire

    Bookmark   February 9, 2013 at 3:28AM
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sapote(10a)

As about the dead mangos Edward and Kent some years ago, I bought them and shipped from Puerto rico (this was before I know we could get them from Mimosa in East LA or from Florida). They came with a small clay root balls around July. I planted them in a 10 gal pots and they were doing great. Then the cold wet winter came, and I moved them under a tall big Jacaranda tree for protection. They survived through the winter and started pushing out flowers but I pinched them off. However they started to have anthracnose I think. I started cut off the infected dark blacken branches, but eventually the fungus got into the main trunk (there was brown vein in the cross section of the trunk) and they both died. I believed if I had moved them inside the house they would survived, but moving the 10gal pots was not easy.

I bought a Valencia Pride and elephant (Lancetilla I think) from Mimosa 3 weeks ago. $90 each in 7 gal pot 5â tall with 0.7â dia root stock (IâÂÂm not sure itâÂÂs 7 gal though). I thought about buying the NDM but they all looked unhealthy. They both are pushing 2â flower things now. The elephant/Lancetilla has redish new leaves and the VP with green.. I will plant them in the middle of the paving court yard when itâÂÂs warm (end of March?) in Zone 10a. I saw Excalibur has many exotic Far East mangos but unfortunately they donâÂÂt do shipping. I will buy a Maha Chanok and Alphonsol and a Vietnamese Cac variety (Excalibur and TT have them).

For the winter, I plan to build a frame from galvanized water pipes around the trees and cover it with plastic sheet. Place a low power hair dryer inside with a homemade microprocessor (computer chip) reading the ambient temperature and turn on the dryer when it is below 40F or so. As a bee keeper I also have the steel wire (which is used to stretch across the honey comb frame to anchor and support the honey comb within the frame) which could be heated up by applying a lower voltage across the wire. I could wrap the tree with this wire and adjust the applied voltage for any desired temperature.

I believe for southern California climate, the vigorous variety kind is better suit than the âÂÂcondoâ ones.

Mangodog, how old was your Manila (from seed) when it first had fruits?

Brian

    Bookmark   February 25, 2013 at 7:31PM
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Nitin_Verma(9-10)

Mallika Mango Tree - First Bloom - Buena Park, CA

This post was edited by Nitin_Verma on Thu, Apr 4, 13 at 18:11

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 6:05PM
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sapote(10a)

Look great. Hope you can eat some mango this year:)

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:08PM
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Grove_Digger

Will most of the mango varieties fruit at the same time in Southern California (SD) or can you buy different varieties similar to avocados to get more year round production?

    Bookmark   July 22, 2013 at 12:56AM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

I think, G D, you can buy varieties that fruit earlier and later.
Not year round production, but perhaps a 4 month stretch of production....

MDog

    Bookmark   July 22, 2013 at 4:15PM
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sapote(10a)

I have noticed when I accidentally drop the single 1" fruit -- flowered in April -- from my young Carrie on June, the tree reacted by pushing out new flower in the next couple weeks. So I would think you can delay the fruiting season by cut off the early flower. Just my guess.

Sapote

    Bookmark   July 24, 2013 at 3:26PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Sapote - I have the same theory in my head - that that would be a way to stretch out the season, especially if one had a bunch of varieties where the fruit matured about the same time....

M.D.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2013 at 5:35PM
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sapote(10a)

Mango Dog, I really think this should work, and it may not be a new theory at all. It sounds logical, just like if people didn't make new babies in Christmas holiday, then we will make them on Valentine day.

Sapote

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 2:06PM
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mangodog(palm springs 9B)

Of course, this only works on trees that you can reach the panicles (flower stalks) from.....wonder if its a 30 day incubation period for the second set of flowers to emerge once the first set is snapped off.....seems about right.....

One of us has to take the plunge, sapote, and test this out!

Mdog

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 1:52PM
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Grove_Digger

Thanks Sapote and mangodog. I will be interested to hear if you have success delaying your fruiting season on flowers you cut. Hopefully they don't just mature faster to get back on schedule. Are you intending to cut entire trees or just a portion of the flowers to see if you can extend an individual tree's fruiting?

    Bookmark   July 28, 2013 at 2:23PM
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sapote(10a)

Only cut the mature flower stalks. Example, if want to delay by one month, then wait for 1 month old flower, then cut them off. I think this might even work for the same tree.

Sapote

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 2:20PM
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craze4mango_tx(9a- houston)

Hey guys! All the talk of delaying mango fruiting has me wondering what happened with your experiments involving removal of flowers... any success?

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parkwood43

Hi Bill,

Do you know if any of your varieties bear fruit from Nov to May? Or if you know any varieties that do.

Thanks, Stay well,

Rich

    Bookmark   November 17, 2013 at 5:37PM
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