Carambola Arrrggghhh..

gnappiJune 28, 2012

I don't understand it, and probably never will. Today at Lowes I saw a little Fwang Tung stick 4' tall and not a half inch in trunk girth with the entire tree covered with flowers and little fruits. HOW do the nurseries get twigs to flower so early?

I have three Carambola trees two in the ground 2+ years, the other over a year. The first two are well into the 15' height range with sturdy 3"+ trunks and no flowers.

I bought them all as little sticks AND root bound in 3 gallon pots with flowers and little fruits all over them in may and early June.

After that first early crop the trees only flowered in late August.

I've been told to try 0-0-50 but no can do, nobody has it.

So, HOW do they do it?

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denninmi(8a)

Young potted trees like that which are constricted in size often will bloom. Once liberated into the ground, they concentrate their energy on growing roots, trunks,and branches. Eventually when larger and more mature, they will begin to bloom and fruit again.

What you describe is frustrating, but extremely common. Remember the old Kung Fu series from the 1970's? -- "Patience, Grasshopper"

    Bookmark   June 28, 2012 at 4:37PM
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gnappi

So, what you're saying is buy two potted carambola and keep them totally wigged out stressed so I get early fruit till mine wake up every august then eventually get their act together to start the two cycles of fruiting per year? :-)

Nuff said. I'm off to Lowes!

I am just thinking that there has to be more to it than stress. Even though mine bear heavily they never flower from the trunk. The Lowes ones are fruiting all the way to the graft line!

    Bookmark   June 28, 2012 at 7:05PM
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tropicbreezent

A grafted tree is virtually the same age as the tree the graft came from. You probably won't be able to find out but yours might have been from an immature tree. The others might have been from an older tree plus been stressed.

When they say to use a 0-0-50 fertiliser they might as well leave out the first two zeros and just tell you to use Muriate of Potash. I think adding those zeros just confuses everyone. It's sort of like saying to someone to get a headless hammer when they need a piece of wood.

    Bookmark   June 28, 2012 at 11:21PM
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gnappi

"A grafted tree is virtually the same age as the tree the graft came from. You probably won't be able to find out but yours might have been from an immature tree. The others might have been from an older tree plus been stressed"

Actually, all three of the Carambola I have were sticks when I bought them and all had the same situation as the one I saw in Lowes, covered with flowers and fruits.

Yeah, I know that the NPK is Potash, but just try and find it in south Florida, I've only seen it on EBAY..

    Bookmark   July 3, 2012 at 6:23AM
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tropicbreezent

Were the Carambolas grafts or just 'sticks' without graft marks?

I thought muriate of potash would be readily available at any of the nurseries or the gardening departments of the larger stores. Woodash is another source of potash/potassium but it's right out of chemical balance and has a very high pH.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2012 at 11:25AM
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gnappi

The three I have in the ground were all grafted, that's what's bothering me.

I have a chiminea that I use the ash from to fertilize the trees, but to date no results as far a fruit bearing goes on he Carambola

    Bookmark   July 4, 2012 at 9:10AM
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tropicdude

You do not need the 0-0-50, find some potassium nitrate, ( KNO3 / salt peter ) and do some foliar sprays, I believe a 3% solution is what is used.

another recommendation is 10 gram per liter.

KNO3 will probably not be found at your regular garden centers, you can get it cheap from ebay.

Where I live its hard to find, unless your buying big bags of the stuff from an agricultural warehouse.

I was able to find 5-15-45 in powder, and have had good results with that this year, my Ylang Ylang, Grumichama, and Guanabana all flowered for the first time after using this, also it increased the hold and numbers of fruit on my Jujube.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2012 at 10:45PM
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