Anyone growing Goji berry (Lycium barbarum)

gardenfreak(7a)May 23, 2008

Hi:

Trying to find people who actually grow this fruit. Please respond if you do.

Thanks

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stacewizer

Just planted one this season. It's doing great; reaching out it's vining tendrils. It's still small, but it's alive and well. I planted it where I had my compost last year. So, I hope it will take off.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2008 at 10:49PM
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cyclewest(5A)

Where did you get the seeds and how could I get some? How long until they fruit? 5 years? I was just reading something about them last week. Aren't they supposed to be highly nutritious?

Okay, no wonder, they are grown locally by Timpanogos Nursery.

Here is a link that might be useful: Goji Berry at Timp Nursery

    Bookmark   May 28, 2008 at 9:59AM
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cyclewest(5A)

Mine is on the way. Apparently, they send out suckers and can be propagated by cuttings, so I should have some to share in a few years. I saw someone selling the seeds on e-bay and had been looking into them.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2008 at 12:22PM
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gardenfreak(7a)

Hi:
Thanks for all responses. I wanted to plant some for health reasons. I did check the Tim nursery webside, but with postage a bit expensive for me and to start from seeds would take way too long. So I am looking if someone had some cuttings to share so I can try that way. And about ebay, you have to be careful buying seeds from there. Some good, some rip you off.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2008 at 9:31PM
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pamero

Got about 50 of them here in Nor Cal, in 2 gallon buckets, most are approaching 2 feet tall. This is there first year.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2008 at 2:06AM
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migarden(z5 MI US)

I ordered two potted Goji berry plants from Timpanogos Nursery online & planted them last week. Seem to be doing well. They told me I could possibly see an occasional berry this year but not to expect much until next summer.

Here is a link that might be useful: Timpanogos Nursery

    Bookmark   June 11, 2008 at 8:34PM
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psittacine

Though little information is available on the Goji, it certainly sounds like an interesting fruit!

Now I wont sleep well tonight, because I'll be mentally walking through the property, trying to find a place to plant one or two. Thanks! LOL ...No really, I like the challenge of a new kind of fruit. I just don't have any talent in the 'Garden Design' department. sigh

    Bookmark   June 12, 2008 at 1:27AM
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BlackberryJohn(z7 OK)

So far in my experience here in Oklahoma, Gojis are tough little plants. I started some from Ebay seeds last winter, neglected the little seedlings something awful - but three survived. I've since transplanted those to individual pots that are now doing very well on our sunny deck. Since Gojis sound like extremely attractive plants and we've got lots of room on the deck I plan to continue to move them to larger pots. If they become unhappy, I'll move them to the yard.

    Bookmark   July 27, 2008 at 2:05AM
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cyclewest(5A)

I hope they are tough, but mine seems to be losing the fight! It seems like it has really struggled. Not much new growth, the whole thing looks a little weak. Most of the leaf tips look burned. It's been in the ground about two months now. I'm just hoping that it hangs on for the rest of the summer and survives the winter for a better showing next year.

    Bookmark   July 28, 2008 at 12:25AM
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foxd(z5b/6a)

Last year I planted 5 plants I started from seed. Two survived the winter but keep getting the leaves eaten off of them by some unknown critter. One plant is large enough that it manages to hang onto some leaves, but the other keeps getting completely stripped.

A Gojiberry plant I gave a neighbor is also having the leaves eaten off of it.

Any idea what finds Goji leaves irresistible?

    Bookmark   September 9, 2008 at 4:23PM
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j_roc

I took the seeds out of some dried berries I bought from the store and placed them into a damp bucket of soil. Later, when many had germinated, I planted them into starter pots, then moved them outside where many died due to the dramatic change to dry summer heat and too much direct sun. They do best in alkaline soil and are prone to pH nutrient lock. Early on this caused leaf necrosis and weak growth.

Well the ones that were left were all gathered into a 1 quart pot, and they've started to take off. It's the beginning of fall and a couple are almost a foot high, with long droopy stalks, and a few side branching. I'm keeping it in a well lighted window. Maybe I'll buy a lightbulb to shine on it if it needs more light, who knows. They'll be repotted into a much bigger container in a few weeks. To answer the original question, hopefully I'll be fruiting these by next summer!

    Bookmark   October 11, 2008 at 8:37PM
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generator_00

This plant is also known as matrimony vine and locally here in Wyoming it is called t-vine. It is a terrible plant that was introduced years ago by the underground coal miners here and was used as a vine to fence in sheep. It grows into a big thorny plant that even the coyotes don't like to go through. It is invasive and still growing out in deserted mining communities years after being abandoned. It loves to find its way through any cracks in foundations, driveways, or anywhere else it can go. In order to kill it you have to get high strength poison from the county agent and apply it repeatedly. Then you better look under every rock around in order to find it all. So my advice is if its not dead now kill it before it takes off.

    Bookmark   November 4, 2008 at 7:52PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

I think their is quite a difference between the wolfberry found in the states vs the tibetan version that you see being sold for berries and juice.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 12:16PM
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generator_00

Hello nevermore44, I have a inquisitive and open mind, what do you think is different about the states and tibetian version of wolfberry?

    Bookmark   February 7, 2009 at 5:21PM
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orientalberry

Do not be fooled by so-called 'Tibetan goji'. There is not such thing on the world. I am not kidding but it seems most goji growers or customers do not know the truth. I am from Zbongning of China - 'hometown of goji' and I can swear to you goji is mainly produced in Ningxia, Xingjiang, inner mongolia and Hei Bei provinces. 'Tibetan goji' is totally a market scam - unfortunately not many people found out this truth. Goji is also called Chinese wolfberry, with scientific name of 'Lycium barbarum', there are many varieties but only 'Lycium barbarm' has proved clinic effects. You can find details from my website go-goji.com - I have developed this website to battle with this misconception and try to deliver real goji cultivation knowledge to North Americans.

Here is a link that might be useful: dreamland goji farm

    Bookmark   February 9, 2009 at 6:20PM
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generator_00

I believe there are different cultivars and different areas of the world where matrimony vine grows but I believe they are all the same plant. A thorny root heavy hedging vine with purple flowers (that the hummingbirds love) and produces edible red berries. I suspect the Chinese brought this plant to this area years ago when they worked in the coal mines.
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    Bookmark   February 9, 2009 at 8:49PM
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will2358(z7/Atlanta)

I have eaten the Goji and the wolfberry. They are very similiar, but the goji was sweeter to me than the wolfberry.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2009 at 7:21PM
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kelleyrn(z5Il.)

Anyone growing this in northern Illinois?? I want to try it

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 11:33AM
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bpgreen(5UT)

"Anyone growing this in northern Illinois?? I want to try it"

This is the Utah forum, so it probably doesn't get much traffic from people in Northern IL. Heck, it doesn't get much traffic from people in Utah.

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 12:41PM
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babdav(5)

where can we get this goji lately? are peoples plants surviving?

    Bookmark   April 3, 2011 at 4:20PM
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avemaria_one_net

Posted by Gerry in Ohio (avemaria@one.net) on Sun, Apr 24, 11 at 20:58

Wow, after reading about the hardiness and growth of L.barbarum, I am wondering if this baby would be too invasive, especially if released into the wild as in Utah. Would it force out local vegetation? Sounds like it needs a lot of room to grow. Having another hard-to-control plant in my garden sounds a bit overwhelming to me, despite the value of the fruit. Now what am I going to do with the plants I just bought b/f understanding all that I now know?

    Bookmark   April 24, 2011 at 9:03PM
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cjohns8

Gerry- you should try it anyway. maybe keep it in a pot. at least give it a chance. :) good luck.

    Bookmark   April 26, 2011 at 9:00AM
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mesu(4)

well, I had some seeds and just got them coming up, we'll see how they do, since I have a hunch that they may not be hardy around here

    Bookmark   May 13, 2011 at 11:23PM
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kal2002

Does anyone know where to buy the sweeter Goji instead of the less sweet Wolfberry? I also read online that there is a difference in taste between the two.

Posted by will2358 z7/Atlanta (My Page) on Tue, May 26, 09 at 19:21

I have eaten the Goji and the wolfberry. They are very similiar, but the goji was sweeter to me than the wolfberry.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2011 at 8:14PM
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brotherjake(5A UT)

Goji's are offered at several online nurseries. I know for sure that Raintree and One Green World have them. Timpanogos Nursery had them, but I can't seem to find them on the web anymore. I hate paying shipping costs from online nurseries. Such is life.

    Bookmark   June 23, 2011 at 3:50PM
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tdbrueggen_gmail_com

My goji has been growing slowly in my plant room since April. I put a light over it and it seemed to help but still slow. The vines were standing up over 6 inches tall and looking good. All of a sudden the leaf tips turned brown and the plants laid down. I've seen other plants get the brown tips from getting sun burned but these plants get no direct sunlight. Max temp in the plant room was maybe 105 degrees a few weeks ago.
All I can think is that we had a cool snap, where nighttime temps got down to 60 F for a few nights. Could this have shocked the plants if they were used to night temps of only 75 or more?
They don't look to be dying just yet, but I was concerned that they had laid down like that. Even still their stems seem really thin and seem to barely support the plant as is. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2011 at 1:29PM
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thomashton

Wish I read this forum earlier. I live in Cache County and my neighbor down the road has a goji nursery. He has quite the operation. All gojis he raises come from old stock Chinese railworkers ate, planted, dropped, etc throughout Rich, Cache, and Box Elder Counties. He ships thousands of them to the large distributers every year. If you buy from Gurney's, you buy from my neighbor. You can put in just about any catalogue retailer in there you choose.

In any case, look him up online. He has a great website with tons of info. He is a retired USU professor so has taken this on in his retirement, written grants, gotten nutritional and genetic testing done etc. He even has a Goji berry cookbook you can buy. One last thing, he often lists on KSL classifieds. If you search for Goji or wolf berries and find Don or Donald in Logan, that's your man.

I've included his website.

Here is a link that might be useful: Phoenix Tears Nursery

    Bookmark   September 22, 2011 at 9:43PM
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jimigunne(9A)

I purchased several Goji plants from botany_shop on ebay about 1 1/2 yrs ago. I have abt 50 or so total, three (the mother plants) are good sized bushes now. They are blooming, but I am not getting any fruit. Some sources on the internet say that Goji is self-pollinating, while other sources say you must have a male pollinator. From what I am seeing the latter is probably right. I also bought a few male pollinators from botany_bay (they have narrower leaves), but all but one have slowly died.
The females are incredibly hardy and easy to propagate....but I can't seem to grow the male pollinators. I am definitely not under-watering....could they be more susceptible to over-watering? Or have special requirement making them less hardy than the females?

    Bookmark   May 13, 2012 at 1:08PM
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thomashton

You very well could be overwatering. Don is adament about not babying these plants. His stock comes from the driest, most alkaline soil around. He doesn't fertilize or even really water them and they grow like weeds.

My sister-in-law is known for over-fertilizing everything with horse manure. I told her to not use even a cup of the stuff. It's just not needed. You may be getting vegetative growth but not fruit set from babying it.

    Bookmark   August 8, 2012 at 5:57PM
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marytrapasso

You can get good results on own health with a lot of natural things such as goji berries. I do the shopping here, these are of excellent quality bacche di goji

    Bookmark   December 2, 2013 at 6:49AM
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warren56(7)

I live in West Tn. Two years ago, at a Chinese restaurant where I live, the Chinese lady who owned the place was sitting at a table next to mine, picking leaves off a pile of switches and putting them into a pot to cook. After watching her for a few minutes and wondering what plant the switches were cut from, I noticed the tiny thin thorns adorning the stems as they were being exposed in the picking. Wow! I asked the lady "Is that Goji?" Her face lit up and she asked, "You know Goji?" I told her that I'd been resurrecting seeds from dried berries for about 3 years, but the resulting seedlings consistentky only grew about three inches and died. She took a bunch of the now bare stems and rolled them up in newspaper, handed them to me and told me to put them in water to root OR stick them into damp ground where I wanted them to grow. I took them home and put all of them into planters on my porch. They all immediately started sprouting new leaves. Last year, several put out new plants from the roots a few inches away from the parent plant. Some of them flushed with blooms in late October, just before frost got them. An ice storm this Winter broke off a few twigs, and when I was cleaning up around them a couple of weeks ago, the severed twigs lying under the leaf cover on the soil were putting out roots and tiny new leaves, so they got stuck into a planter of their own. The parent cuttings have grown to almost 6 feet. I'm hoping they will bloom sooner this year. The soil is probably a bit too acidic. Does anyone know the best way to adjust the ph for gojis, as well as how (or whether) to prune them?

    Bookmark   March 24, 2014 at 4:31PM
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blakrab

orientalberry - So, do you sell your cultivar?

And, do Goji berries have thorns, or not? Do they grow into small trees or viny shrubs? Can someone post some pictures of actual mature plants?

And how invasive are they?

Here is a link that might be useful: Zhongning cultivar?

    Bookmark   May 20, 2014 at 10:28PM
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sf_mia(5)

I just bought a Goji this year from Valley Nursery near Hill AFB/Uintah area. It was 5 bucks for the plant. Has lots of leaves and flowers. Hoping it fairs well here. I also have one in San Diego, CA that I left with my Grandmother. She has gotten a few berries off of it but it doesn't seem happy. That one is about 4 or 5 years old and doesn't have a lot of leaves. My hubby and I don't know too much about them so its mostly trial and error for us. I am interested to know if anyone else is growing Goji too. We are located on Hill AFB.

    Bookmark   June 15, 2014 at 7:58PM
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snerrskin(5)

I'm in South Jordan. I ordered a Goji berry from Stark Bros website this past May. As of today I have had about 50 little berries off this plant. It has done beautifully.

    Bookmark   September 20, 2014 at 5:24PM
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arctictropical(Z4)

I live in the bottom of Cache Valley, southwest of Logan. I have a neighbor who sells the plants commercially. They grow like weeds and thrive in any soil or climate. Very drought tolerant as well. I planted some starts in August a couple of years ago. It looked like they died in the heat, but soon after, the sent up new shoots and grew like they could care less about the heat. Be careful. Just like black berries, they will overtake your entire garden if you don't control them.

    Bookmark   September 21, 2014 at 7:42PM
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plant4life

Is this a goji berry plant? I've posted this question in another thread, but this thread seems more appropriate, thanks.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2014 at 3:06AM
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arctictropical(Z4)

plant4life..... this does not look like a goji berry. Goji berry leaves are very thin and narrow. I can post a pic if it helps.

    Bookmark   October 8, 2014 at 2:34PM
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