Plant Cypress vine or not ??

orcascove(6 Columbus Ohio)January 26, 2008

Ok long story so bear with me... A very nice lady sent me some Red and some White Cypress vine seed along with some Hyacinth bean, I did a SASBE for. I have been trying to find out more about the Cypress vine because I am considering planting them for the hummers. What I have seen says they are often confused with Cardinal climber.

It says that Cypress seeds look like Mouse Droppings, and Cardinal Climber looks like Morning glory seeds.. Ok so since I am new to seeds I have no idea what morning glory seeds look like. The info I found also says that Cypress vine can be invasive in some areas. Please give me the REAL info on these seeds as I don't want anything invasive to take over. Is that a problem in my area? I don't mind having to keep them in check by occasional pruning and such, but need to know what the seed pods look like, so I can get them before they spread etc... I am in Columbus Ohio which is zone 6 (according to the find your zone helper) Here is a picture of the seeds I have. Any help is much appreciated.. Thanks!!!

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kayjones(Mo6b)

Ipomoea quamoclit is cypress vine and Ipomoea x multifide is cardinal climber.

    Bookmark   January 27, 2008 at 12:13AM
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orcascove(6 Columbus Ohio)

Kayjones- thanks for your response. I do appreciate your info, and even though I am new to seeds, I do understand there are different botanical names for the different species. However the lady who sent these seeds just wrote Red Cypress vine or white Cypress vine on the little envelopes. So you see No Botanical names have been given to me for the specific seeds I have. And in doing research on Cypress vines, I find that even retail companies sometime mix up the seeds and give them the wrong species name. So that is why I am trying to make sure what these specific ones are, so I can decide weither to plant them or not. I wish there was a place online to go look at seeds of plants so you can compare what you have, with what is supposed to be. Anyone???

    Bookmark   January 27, 2008 at 1:20AM
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liisa_rwc(10b Bay Area CA)

If you do a google search for morning glory seeds and then click on the word images you can find photo of them.

I have seed packets of both carinal climber and cyress vine
the carinal climber seeds look more like morning glory seeds and the cyress vine is smaller and looks more like lavendar seeds you would put in a sash.

Also I have noted on my seed packs that the cyress vine I will grow in a pot on the patio to controle the reseeding and a note on the carinal climber ok to plant in garden. I'm in a differnt zone than you, so I'm not sure this will help you.

Liisa

    Bookmark   January 27, 2008 at 2:18AM
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luvsgrtdanes

Hi,
From the looks of your seeds you have "cypress vine"

It tends to be invasive since it produces many seeds. You can keep it under control if you plant it in a pot away from where you don't want seeds to drop.

Here is a link with a bit more info for you...

Here is a link that might be useful: Ipomoea quamoclit - cypress vine

    Bookmark   January 27, 2008 at 8:24AM
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stephanotis_1(8b AZ)

I would think that in your area either of those vines would not be invasive. Even here in my zone which is borderline 9, both cypress and cardinal climber vines die off at the first hint of frost, and do not come back from the roots. They are also extremely easy to pull up as seedlings if you find them growing where you don't want them. I have grown both types of vines and I absolutely love them, though Cardinal Climbers tend to be a bit tougher. The Cardinal Cl. seeds are roundish, black, and hard shelled. The Cypress Vine seeds do look mor like mouse droppings with their elongated and smaller shape. I say go for it! You won't regret it!

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   January 28, 2008 at 1:05PM
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orcascove(6 Columbus Ohio)

Thanks everyone, I think I have the Cypress vine, and I will plant a couple of each color. I do hope that Stephanotis is correct in thinking they might not be invasive here. Anyone have a picture of the seed pods on a Cypress vine? I want to try and get them before the seeds spread everywhere , but I don't know what to look for.

    Bookmark   January 28, 2008 at 7:42PM
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stephanotis_1(8b AZ)

Here is the photo progression of a cypress vine bloom to a seed pod. They are pretty small, and the chances of you being able ti pick all of them are pretty slim. But again, I really think you don't need to worry. Most warnings for invasive species tend to be for basically frost free areas.

    Bookmark   January 29, 2008 at 7:45PM
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karyn1(7a)

I'm in zone 7 and they aren't invasive here. They are killed off, including the roots, by the first frost and unwanted volunteer seedlings are easily pulled up.
Karyn

    Bookmark   January 29, 2008 at 11:55PM
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porsche65(z6 TN)

The seed pods are very easy to identify. They are a round light brown ball hat will hold 4 seeds inide it. There will be many of them and are very easy to identify. Don't grow either of these too close to oter plants because they will use anything nearby as a trellis. Here is link to pictures of many seeds and info on each. Look around site, it has lots of helpful info.
http://www.theseedsite.co.uk/seedpods.html

    Bookmark   January 30, 2008 at 8:56PM
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ron_convolvulaceae

Hi orcascove - I thought I'd chirp in and add a couple of additional aspects to your initial inquiry for clarification...

Ipomoea quamoclit is available in several colors including red,pink,white and pink with a reddish star...

The photo of the seeds that you initially posted look to be
Ipomoea quamoclit Seeds
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/9428/
cotyledon lobes are thin and elongated
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/114464/
seedlings
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/58563/
finely divided fernlike foliage and red flower
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/54926/
red and pink flowers
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/1170/
pink flower with red star
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/55584/
white flower with creamy yellow tube and very light yellow star
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/120909/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171624/

Ipomoea sloteri is a true interspecific hybrid(of Ipomoea quamoclit and Ipomoea coccinea) for which I.sloteri is the updated epithet(i.e.,species botanical name) for the older synonym of Ipomoea x multifida
Ipomoea sloteri
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/662/
seeds
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/tubbss5_1128420309_197.jpg
cotyledon lobes are wedge shaped
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/htop_1118245454_796.jpg
seedling showing cotyledons and first true leaves
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/30321/
Ipomoea sloteri foliage is divided but not as finely divided as I.quamoclit
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/104109/
seedpods of Ipomoea sloteri are very similar to Ipomoea quamoclit
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/89947/
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/htop_1128293601_520.jpg
flowers of Ipomoea sloteri are most often a reddish color
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/157253/
I.quamoclit rosey color
http://i17.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/cc/13/692a_1.JPG

Ipomoea sloteri "Apricot Candy" which is a color dilution/mutation of the original darker reddish color form
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/168402/

Ipomoea quamoclit and Ipomoea sloteri are commonly confused with both
Ipomoea coccinea
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/55107/
seedpod pedicel specific details
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/174039/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/139580/
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/688746/

and

Ipomoea hederifolia
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Floridian_1127773258_410.jpg
'lutea'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/88426/
'Aurantia'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/174525/
'salmon-coral'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/175678/
cotyledons
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/52433/
ripening seedpod
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/173738/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/81986/
ripe seedpods
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/57940/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171201/

Hope that helps in differential identification...

TTY,...

Ron

    Bookmark   January 31, 2008 at 1:20AM
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bhscarlett(michigan)

do they smell pretty as they look,,?

    Bookmark   July 21, 2008 at 7:40PM
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pwscsr_earthlink_net

I have just started some Cypress Vine seeds and am growing them for a Master Gardener plant sale. I am in Northern California and I don't want to sell them if invasive. We do get snow here and it can be very cold, so I am thinking it would be okay. Do I have agreement here? Thanks so much.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2011 at 6:54PM
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kayjones(Mo6b)

Yes, Patricia - I am in agreement with you - they are an annual vine and WILL self-sow from dropped seeds, but they pull out very easily and the hummingbird show will thrill you!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2011 at 9:19PM
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