Madame Galen Tumpet vine...where to find

ginnypenny(East TXZ8)March 22, 2013

I'm looking for some Madame Galen Trumpet vines in the Tyler..East Texas area. Anyone have ideas?

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badducky

I cringe at anyone planting any trumpet vine. They are so invasive and destructive. I'm currently battling one that was planted by a former owner within six feet of my foundation. It will eat the whole house, if I let it.

I hope you're going to be planting this monster 100 yards from anything and everyone you love or like or want not to be destroyed.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2013 at 11:51PM
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phoenix7801

Madame Galen trumpet vine is a cross between the native Campsis radicans (orange trumpet) and Campsis grandiflora (Chinese trumpet) and is better behaved then either the orange or yellow trumpet vine. That being said still make sure to a sturdy support for it.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 8:33AM
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ginnypenny(East TXZ8)

Yes, I'm aware of how invasive they can be. I have a person who wants one on the back fence...chainlink.

Any ideas on a less aggressive vine that is or nearly evergreen and blooms more than just in the spring? She loves the idea of mandavilla, but wants one that will stay green.

ginnypenny

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 6:17PM
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bostedo(8a tx-bp-dfw)

Any ideas on a less aggressive vine that is or nearly evergreen and blooms more than just in the spring?

As someone into my third year of eradicating trumpet vine (Campsis radicans) sold as Madame Galen (Campsis x tagliabuana) forgeries, I strongly suggest you be very careful of the source OR consider Coral Honeysuckle (Lonicera sempervirens) as an alternative. We've had proper Madame Galen in the past that were well mannered, but don't think I'll ever consider chancing it for an urban fence again after this most recent experience.

L. sempervirens has advantages of being much less aggressive AND evergreen. It's also available in several colors. Major Wheeler is a very nice red variety that is already blooming in our yard.

Only tradeoffs versus Trumpet Vine that I can think of are that it will need more help getting to the top of the fence and, while drought resistant, it does not put down the kind of 5+ ft deep roots that campsis radicans puts out. One removed last week went straight down and was longer than my shovel. C. radicans is no doubt tougher, but of course, that's why it is taking me years to get rid of it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Coral honeysuckle is the perfect vine for landscapes

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 7:08PM
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lucas_tx_gw

Cross vine is another nice native alternative that gets nice and big but not invasive. Someone I know in the DFW area has one that's something like 40 feet long on her fence line but it all comes from the one original set of roots.

I have a huge one on a trellis at my house and it only emerges from the ground in the one area it was planted. This is a combinationation of cross vine on the right and coral honeysuckle on the left. If you want a more massive plant, you can see that the cross vine is more substantial, yet has not smothered the lonicera.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cross Vine

This post was edited by lucas_tx on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 17:06

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 4:56PM
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bostedo(8a tx-bp-dfw)

@lucas-tx, Nice photo of your wall of flowering vines. Those are two vines we've been using to replace the rogue trumpet vine, but have not lived with the cross vine long enough to comment on it. Glad to hear your experience has been so good. Do want to add that cross vine is also evergreen, since this was a preference mentioned by ginnypenny.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 6:29PM
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ginnypenny(East TXZ8)

Lucas-Tex thanks so much for the photo. I'm going to try to make print of it. I told my friend about about both of these vines, but didn't have such a great px to show. Surely after seeing this she'll agree to replace her choice of Madam Galen with these.

I really don't want to just refuse to plant what she wants, but may have to.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 8:15PM
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backacre

Ginny, it's probably too late but Hughes Plant Farm has a 'Madame Rosy' Trumpet Creeper. Supposedly well mannered and seedless. Priced at $9.25. Love Hughes!

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 9:33AM
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ginnypenny(East TXZ8)

Thanks, not it's not too late. I'm still looking for a good alternative for her. I also love Hughes. I'll stop by and check them and the Madame Rosy out!! That's why I LOVE this site.

Ginny

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 8:55PM
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honeybunny2(Z9TX)

I got mine at Lowes. Barbra

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 6:11PM
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