Which vine has these seed pods?

PPennypacker(z6b)September 12, 2005


This is growing next to some light blue morning glory. They most certainly are not seeds from any morning glory I know of. Might someone help ID this mystery to me?

My thanks.

Best,

PP

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chills71(Zone 6b Mi)

bindweed....

Destroy it immediately.

~Chills

    Bookmark   September 12, 2005 at 9:00AM
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PPennypacker(z6b)

Chills -
I'm ashamed of myself for not recognizing it sooner! Good Lord! I was so into the "Morning Glory - Viney - lovely looking- lush, thang", that I forgot my own invasive sniffer!
Thanks so much. It will be destroyed.
Best,
PP

    Bookmark   September 12, 2005 at 11:05AM
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taylor_tx(zone 8 TX)

It also looks like silver lace vine, if you got really close up in your picture...
They are tiny...about the size of...
Well, two would fit on the end of a pencil eraser...
Do you remember what the flower looked like?

    Bookmark   September 14, 2005 at 8:07AM
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PPennypacker(z6b)

Taylor TX -
The funny thing was that no flowers at all were noticed, just the pods. The leaves do resemble the Genus Convolvulous, but on second thought (thanks to the warning of a Gardenweb formum friend) it's leaves do not look like bindweed - they are too spade-shaped, bindweed leaves seem longer and more rectangular (if I can say it that way).
Still a mystery. Please keep trying. I Thank you.
Best,
PP

    Bookmark   September 15, 2005 at 5:50AM
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october17(5chgo)

Don't know what it is but those are some ugly flowers it's got!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2005 at 7:16AM
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kayjones(Mo6b)

If it's seeds are very small and have a tissue-papery covering, it's silver lace vine aka fleece vine aka Polygonum aubertii, unless I miss my best guess.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2005 at 7:17AM
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ron_convolvulaceae

Most likely family > Polygonaceae( Smartweed or Buckwheat Family)

copy and paste URL's into browser...

Polygonum scandens L > climbing false buckwheat

http://biology.missouristate.edu/Herbarium/Plants%20of%20the%20Interior%20Highlands/Flowers/Polygonum%20scandens%20-%20N2.JPG
http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/Searchcategory.asp?category=Vine&LIM=0amp;sortop=Taxa
http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/detail.asp?SpCode=POLSCA1
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/a/hdw24090210s.jpg
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/a/hdw24090207s.jpg
http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Polygonum_scandens_page.html
http://www.delawarewildflowers.org/1546.html
http://2bnthewild.com/plants/H378.htm
http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/cwe/illinois_plants/ThePlants/FGenera/FalSca/FalSca.html
http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/okwild/cfbuck.html

or possibly

Polygonum convolvulus L. > black-bindweed, false buckwheat

http://www.kulak.ac.be/facult/wet/biologie/pb/kulakbiocampus/lage%20planten/Fallopia%20convulvulus%20-%20Zwaluwtong/zwaluwtong.htm
http://www.missouriplants.com/Greenalt/Polygonum_convolvulus_page.html
http://www.robsplants.com/plants/PolygConvo.php
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/nursery-weeds/weedspeciespage/wild_buckwheat/Polygonum_convolvulus_wild_buckwheat.html
http://www.syngenta.ca/en/guides/weed/index.asp?Nav=buckwheat_wild
http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/okwild/blackbind.html
http://www.toyen.uio.no/botanisk/nbf/plantefoto/fallopia_convolvulus_Jan_Wesenberg01.jpg
http://www.british-wild-flowers.co.uk/B-Flowers/Bindweed,%20Black.htm

similar seedpods on the closely related

Rumex crispus

http://kareth.com/systematik/html/rumecri1.html

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   September 16, 2005 at 6:13PM
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PPennypacker(z6b)

RON - Thanks so much for the intensive info. Well done. Though I as you think it is probably Polygonum, I'm curious about the difference between the "non-ruffled edges of the seed pods of the P. above, and those that you found.
Might there be a species differentiation here,as well?
Best,
PP

    Bookmark   September 19, 2005 at 6:28AM
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ron_convolvulaceae

PPennypacker - most likely a local variant or the stage of the ripening seeds can also be a factor...the leaves on the plant you posted above look like the P.convolvulus/scandens(upper right in photo) and the rest of the leaves look like the P.aubertii...you'll just have to decide what to do...to pull it or save some seeds...
Here is a link to a pictures of the seedcases of the Polygonum aubertii

http://www.diplomlandespfleger.de/Bilder/Baum/polygonumaubertiibild2.jpg

Here is a link that might be useful: Polygonum aubertii seedcases

    Bookmark   September 20, 2005 at 2:14AM
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PPennypacker(z6b)

RON - Oh we pulled it allright! We chopped it up into little pieces and put it out for the trashman to take away.
Again, thanks so much for your help. And to think a woman I apprenticed with wanted this "lovely vine" growing all over her property...through the trees...arrgggghh!
Best,
PP

    Bookmark   September 20, 2005 at 11:45AM
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